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Comrade Fakename posted:The issue is less that they are centrist, but that they have managed to gain a mainstream reputation for being very left-wing. And they still have enormous influence on the left - I would say that The Guardian is the no. 1 reason Keir Starmer is Labour leader right now by miles. I agree. So many of the folk I know in the Labour party trust and buy the Guardian. Funnily enough the only person I know in real life who hasn't trusted the Guardian for years is a former labour MP I know who was of the Blairite tendency and who told me he was surprised when I said members trusted the Guardian because, he said, the Guardian have always been against the Labour Party. (And then he told me some issue which I can't remember when the Graun had totally rubbished labour who were in power at the time but since when he has never trusted them). Blimey second page snipe in 2 pages. Catte tax: CATTE Acronym Definition CATTE Combined Arms Tactical Training Exercise Jaeluni Asjil fucked around with this message at 16:23 on Jul 15, 2020 |
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Gonzo McFee posted:The Guardian I'm fairly sure that the Graun has fired most of its investigative reporters over the past five years. Hence why nobody goes to them with stuff like the panama papers anymore. See: That article I keep posting about how the security services turned them post-snowden.
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so the labour party are formally apologising to all the cunts in the panorama documentary
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Necrothatcher posted:Is it wrong to be hoping The Guardian just loving goes under already? I don't know if I'm just defeatist but I fancy we're better with it than without it. Otherwise we're allowing a worse, more-right wing publication like The Independent to designate how far to the left broadsheet journalism can be.
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nobody goes to them with the panama papers because they were housebroken by the intelligence service after the snowden leaks luke harding is the SIS's tame journalist used to place or shape stories in the broadsheet press, frank gardner (at the bbc) does the same for security service. naturally they couldn't share and had to develop competing solutions.
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The DPRK posted:I don't know if I'm just defeatist but I fancy we're better with it than without it. Otherwise we're allowing a worse, more-right wing publication like The Independent to designate how far to the left broadsheet journalism can be. I have to say I have found The Independent much more left than the Graun in the past few years. Yes they have Rent-a-tool but there are also some more supportive items in there. Dead Goon posted:I went to the local shop for the first time in ages and decided to wear a mask as I have some now. For the sake of the cleaning persons, never eat Skittles in a pub and drop them all over the floor. They are a sod to clean up - as bad as chewing gum. Ask me how I know (not really. I was an early morning pub cleaner for a 3 months).
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you'd think after luke harding made them look like massive fools over the manafort met assange story they would stop featuring him
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Jose posted:so the labour party are formally apologising to all the cunts in the panorama documentary Sounds like they want to "draw a line under the problem". Meaning Keir wants people to shut up about it forever since it negatively effects him instead of the left now.
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Dell_Zincht posted:Either that or they really haven't thought this through properly. Not sure which is worse tbh Wear a mask if you're in Boots for pharmacy etc. but not if you're buying a meal deal
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The concept of "broadsheet journalism" is irrelevant imo. It's just rich people circle jerkin'.
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Dell_Zincht posted:Either that or they really haven't thought this through properly. Not sure which is worse tbh Have they given any reasoning at all for it? I don't see why it's suddenly ok for people to be coughing freely if there's food being prepared nearby.
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https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/jul/15/police-treated-unfairly-over-incidents-caught-on-video-says-senior-officer Lol at the Met. Being mildly critiscised and suffering absolutely no consequences for tasering someone unecessarily who then was seriously injured by the fall is 'unfair.' For reference this is the video in question. https://twitter.com/Wretch32/status/1270430645584572417?s=20 Saros fucked around with this message at 16:36 on Jul 15, 2020 |
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Dead Goon posted:I went to the local shop for the first time in ages and decided to wear a mask as I have some now. I only started with the masks after lockdown started easing in... april? gently caress IDK - and I've watched numbers of people using them go down and down since. When I was out last Friday i would guesstimate maybe 10% of people wearing them, and of those only 90% wearing them properly. It's so loving disheartening.
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Jose posted:so the labour party are formally apologising to all the cunts in the panorama documentary so that's yr response to the sabotage leaks foreshadowed then JeremoudCorbynejad posted:it's good but it's not as good as this There's a face covering the whole nation can get behind
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So many people maskless today and the poor retail workers are clearly being forced to grin through it. I really hope they invent a vaccine soon Then again if people are kicking off about mandatory masks they're going to go fullon anti-vaxx on the vaccine aren't they? loving thing's going to mutate and be around forever cos the tinfoil hats are going to be out there protesting about the government is putting 5G in our kids.
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Isomermaid posted:So many people maskless today and the poor retail workers are clearly being forced to grin through it. I really hope they invent a vaccine soon Absolutely yes. It's exacty the same reactinoary right-wing movement as in the US, it shares the same talking points, and anti-vaxx is a huge part of it.
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You can call all the right wing labour people anti Semitic non stop btw, it’s a gift they’ve given us
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Saros posted:https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/jul/15/police-treated-unfairly-over-incidents-caught-on-video-says-senior-officer quote:“What the commissioner apologised for was the distress caused to Bianca Williams … she was not apologising for the stop and search. That has to be very clearly stated. We have reviewed that stop and search twice by two separate teams of officers from professional standards. Neither team saw anything wrong with it.” we investigated ourselves and decided we're good lads who mean well and the public are being so horrid and unfair to us  gently caress the police
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https://twitter.com/CatholicHerald/status/1283371303492345856 Brendan with his long tradition of defending child rapists again.
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Guavanaut posted:I've not seen many at all in the Co-op. No masks in the Co-Op I work at - but it's OK I've been told policy is we don't have to worry about contract tracing etc unless we have been within 2m of an infected person for 15mins. The co-op have been remarkably poo poo at PPE - it took a month from lockdown to get perspex screens at the tills, there's a bag of paper masks in the office, and the gloves issued are the same ones used in the bakery. They tear all the time and are too slippery to use when handling glass and so on. We got face shields last week (That are too cloudy to actually see through properly). I wear a mask and gloves at work, no one else does. I probably had the virus in mid March, and have had symptoms ever since, coming and going. As of last week, I'm signed off work with Respiratory Distress - I was aiming for stress, but that's what my GP put as she booked me in for a chest X-Ray (I've had migraine and gout attacks over the last 4-6 weeks which are all due to stress). So now I'm sitting here with a resting pulse of over 100, waiting for the results. Renfield fucked around with this message at 17:24 on Jul 15, 2020 |
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did he just dox his own 'maxwell photo' or is that some sort of subtle own from the photo editor.
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Gonzo McFee posted:https://twitter.com/CatholicHerald/status/1283371303492345856 Replies are predictable, but impressive.
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Dead Goon posted:In summary, I have eaten a whole bag of Skittles. Regular or Tropical Skittles?
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*banging table* FIVE MORE YEARS https://bylinetimes.com/2020/07/15/sagegate-government-still-chasing-long-term-herd-immunity-for-covid-19/
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Jose posted:lmao? Blocking one psychotic tory for another equally psychotic tory feels like opposition for oppositions sake.
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keep punching joe posted:*banging table* FIVE MORE YEARS Yup that's how long it will take Covid to wipe out half the population.
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Darth Walrus posted:Replies are predictable, but impressive. https://mobile.twitter.com/ISaysto/status/1283432502833618951
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Jose posted:so the labour party are formally apologising to all the cunts in the panorama documentary If Labour concedes the case now and apologises, Starmer gets to look like the fresh broom who's cleaning up the party, a line is drawn under it and everyone who matters is happy. If Labour continue the case and win, well, that's all kinds of awkward.
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Necrothatcher posted:Is it wrong to be hoping The Guardian just loving goes under already? I like the crossword 
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ForkBanger posted:Regular or Tropical Skittles? Regular. Occasionally I will go for Sour.
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Gonzo McFee posted:Studies indicate that only about 5%developed immunity in Spain and that it wore off after a couple months but hey anything else would affect the economy so gently caress it I guess.
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Jose posted:lmao? Failing Grayling continues (although he normally gets the job first).
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