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Cubone
May 26, 2011

Because it never leaves its bedroom, no one has ever seen this poster's real face.

GolfHole posted:

people like them do, and it was. :)
thats why this is happening like it is
huh?

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Seth Pecksniff
May 27, 2004

can't believe shrek is fucking dead. rip to a real one.

They Don't Think It Be Like It Is But It Do

GolfHole
Feb 26, 2004

i guess i kind of get the feeling that this is already more or less swept under the rug on the back-end

so when its asked why people dont have contingency plans for getting caught
i suggest that people did, and thats why maxwell is taking the fall

Inverted Icon
Apr 8, 2020

by Athanatos

yikes! posted:

Are you saying the ghislaine maxwell thing is just a conspiracy theory like PG instead of an actual conspiracy (like it actually is)?

The maxwells are a part of a conspiracy theory detailing a pedofile ring. It is the one with accusations given the most credit. Other rings have been given less credit

It is similar in nature to the Franklin pedofile ring, which was associated with numerous killings. As well as the Dutroux pedofile ring, which was associated with killings and intimidations, with high profile judges saying the mafia was all over it. The similarities lie in the assassinations and how that makes other evidence damning, as well as state obfuscation

It is less similar to the current scandal of the teen marshallese prostitutes who were trafficked to america to have their babies sold by a politician, which is a caught red-handed sorta thing I think. Or the gosch thing

It is the least similar, I think, to 'pizzagate', which doesnt even have a named victim, and which I'll admit looks like an op

I like when this thread discusses the known details of previous trafficking investigations. I don't think people should be afraid of evidence from the public record

Mnoba
Jun 24, 2010
Ghislane is married btw, per the prosecutions reasons for denying bail. She is managing to keep it secret from the government somehow, so they can't assess a true amount of assets and flight risk.

Julius CSAR
Oct 3, 2007

by sebmojo

Inverted Icon posted:

The maxwells are a part of a conspiracy theory detailing a pedofile ring. It is the one with accusations given the most credit. Other rings have been given less credit

It is similar in nature to the Franklin pedofile ring, which was associated with numerous killings. As well as the Dutroux pedofile ring, which was associated with killings and intimidations, with high profile judges saying the mafia was all over it. The similarities lie in the assassinations and how that makes other evidence damning, as well as state obfuscation

It is less similar to the current scandal of the teen marshallese prostitutes who were trafficked to america to have their babies sold by a politician, which is a caught red-handed sorta thing I think. Or the gosch thing

It is the least similar, I think, to 'pizzagate', which doesnt even have a named victim, and which I'll admit looks like an op

I like when this thread discusses the known details of previous trafficking investigations. I don't think people should be afraid of evidence from the public record

Dude, loving stop. “Looks like an op”? It’s not an “op”, it’s dumb trumpfucker 4chan idiots making poo poo up. That’s it.

500excf type r
Mar 7, 2013

I'm as annoying as the high-pitched whine of my motorcycle, desperately compensating for the lack of substance in my life.
To discredit real pedo ring accusations, yes

Das Boo
Jun 9, 2011

There was a GHOST here.
It's gone now.
Maxwell being part of an international pedo ring has more in common with MK Ultra in that is a conspiracy theory turned provable, extensively documented, verifiable fact.

What the gently caress is it about Pizzagate in particular that destroys people's minds? This is some real "You think the moon is real?" type poo poo.

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?

Das Boo posted:

Maxwell being part of an international pedo ring has more in common with MK Ultra in that is a conspiracy theory turned provable, extensively documented, verifiable fact.

What the gently caress is it about Pizzagate in particular that destroys people's minds? This is some real "You think the moon is real?" type poo poo.

Clinton

BeanpolePeckerwood
May 4, 2004

I MAY LOOK LIKE SHIT BUT IM ALSO DUMB AS FUCK



GolfHole posted:

i guess i kind of get the feeling that this is already more or less swept under the rug on the back-end

so when its asked why people dont have contingency plans for getting caught
i suggest that people did, and thats why maxwell is taking the fall

Yeah, sort of the same way with that Manson thing: they caused it, 'solved it' and wrapped it up, told nobody for a while, and then way later render a fabricated sensational public-friendly verdict that gets people to shut up out of either fear or exhaustion.

Earwicker
Jan 6, 2003


well sure but there's plenty of very real poo poo that can be laid at the door of the clintons ranging from their exploitation of haiti to their friendship with epstein, theres no particular need to make up a conspiracy about a pizza place to make them look bad

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?
Oh sure, they're shady as gently caress. But they're what makes people crazy about pizzagate

Cubone
May 26, 2011

Because it never leaves its bedroom, no one has ever seen this poster's real face.

GolfHole posted:

i guess i kind of get the feeling that this is already more or less swept under the rug on the back-end

so when its asked why people dont have contingency plans for getting caught
i suggest that people did, and thats why maxwell is taking the fall

I don't follow

if epstein had things set up so that compromising material would be sent out in the event of his demise, how would maxwell taking the fall put that genie back in the bottle?

The Voice of Labor
Apr 8, 2020

if maxwell was the dead man's switch

Inverted Icon
Apr 8, 2020

by Athanatos
Have you all heard of the disappearance of Johnny Gosch?

Kid goes missing. 15 yeara later, a man ahows up to the mother, claiming to be him. Said he had been enslaves by a pedofile ring. Disappears again. Mother dorms an organization/nonprofit. Death threats occure, exhusband says she's crazy, she gets photos of her sone being branded, et cetera.

Thin soup in some ways, but supposedly the man had Johnny Gosch's birthmark.

Yardbomb
Jul 11, 2011

What's with the eh... bretonnian dance, sir?

Did she "commit suicide" yet

LifeSunDeath
Jan 4, 2007

still gay rights and smoke weed every day

Yardbomb posted:

Did she "commit suicide" yet

later tonight, shhh

GolfHole
Feb 26, 2004

Cubone posted:

I don't follow

if epstein had things set up so that compromising material would be sent out in the event of his demise, how would maxwell taking the fall put that genie back in the bottle?

their clients would have these failsafes, not them

epstein and maxwell's story could be any number of things. international pedo club. cia. something else altogether. who knows. clearly its complicated.

but those two were always the ones going down for it. its everybody else who had the dead man switches.

GolfHole
Feb 26, 2004

whatever plan they had worked for a while.
and then someone elses plan worked too.
and here we are.

JK Fresco
Jul 5, 2019

End of Shoelace posted:

What the gently caress? Somebody talked about pedophile conspiracies in a thread about two pedophile conspirators???

Is there a separate pedophile conspiracy thread? Has anyone mentioned the Wayfair conspiracy yet?

Cubone
May 26, 2011

Because it never leaves its bedroom, no one has ever seen this poster's real face.

GolfHole posted:

their clients would have these failsafes, not them

epstein and maxwell's story could be any number of things. international pedo club. cia. something else altogether. who knows. clearly its complicated.

but those two were always the ones going down for it. its everybody else who had the dead man switches.

GolfHole posted:

whatever plan they had worked for a while.
and then someone elses plan worked too.
and here we are.






what?

Earwicker
Jan 6, 2003

GolfHole posted:

their clients would have these failsafes, not them

ok then i dont think you understood my question, which was why wouldnt epstein and maxwell, specifically, have these failsafes. i mean if you run a pedo island for the world's most powerful people kind of seems like you'd end up with a lot of really incriminating footage and other material that you would use to protect yourself from being assassinated by said powerful people, by making your clients aware it would be automatically distributed to 20 news sources the instant a "suicide" occured

Caesar Saladin
Aug 15, 2004

Earwicker posted:

ok then i dont think you understood my question, which was why wouldnt epstein and maxwell, specifically, have these failsafes. i mean if you run a pedo island for the world's most powerful people kind of seems like you'd end up with a lot of really incriminating footage and other material that you would use to protect yourself from being assassinated by said powerful people, by making your clients aware it would be automatically distributed to 20 news sources the instant a "suicide" occured

how would they do this? A killswitch in their brain that sets off a mass e-mail when they die?

Earwicker
Jan 6, 2003

Caesar Saladin posted:

how would they do this? A killswitch in their brain that sets off a mass e-mail when they die?

i was under the assumption that these two people were not operating the entire sex trafficking/arms dealing/money laundering ring entirely by themselves but that they have others - allies, assistants, lawyers, etc in their circle who stayed relatively "clean" enough to not be directly incriminated themselves and who could help facilitate said distribution in the event of said suicide. and in fact epstein's lawyer happens to be on social media yelling about how he personally didn't do anything wrong and is implying that there are in fact videos out there that prove his innocence (but which also, one might assume, incriminate others). this adds to my question about whether these videos actually exist and where they are and what might - if anything - trigger their release, because it doesn't look like anything happened when epstein died

FoolyCharged
Oct 11, 2012

Cheating at a raffle? I sentence you to 1 year in jail! No! Two years! Three! Four! Five years! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah!
Somebody call for an ant?

Caesar Saladin posted:

how would they do this? A killswitch in their brain that sets off a mass e-mail when they die?

A friend who has been handed the material and told to divulge it if you die.
Some kind of timer where if you don't reset it periodically, boom the program sends a package to the press.
Literally write that poo poo into your will and have your lawyer read it publicly.
and so on.

Flowers for QAnon
May 20, 2019

Caesar Saladin posted:

how would they do this? A killswitch in their brain that sets off a mass e-mail when they die?

Button in the rear end in a top hat for when the corner checks your butt

TheIncredulousHulk
Sep 3, 2012

They're spooks so there's a decent chance that while they probably had a lot lying around, they weren't the ones who kept all the blackmail material after they acquired it

LIVE AMMO COSPLAY
Feb 3, 2006

Or people like Epstein are just dumb fucks.

Internetjack
Sep 15, 2007

oh god how did this get here i am not good with computers
Top Cop
I hope Maxwell does not suicide and spills the beans on lots of predators.

That said, and given all the derails, I am curious about the idea of a deadman's switch scenario. How do you set up a foolproof scenario?

#1 I'd never trust a human, and most plans fall apart at this point. You *could* hire several attorneys around the world to do this, but they could easily become compromised.
#2 Set up an anonymous website with a countdown timer. Anonymous credit cards. Anonymous IPs. This would take a year or two at least to establish untraceable docs and methods of payments. Do several of them.
#3 Rent a storage locker/unit that gets opened for lack of payment.

#4 Do all of these and hope for the best?

I'm seriously trying to be a crimelord here, and would be grateful on any input on how one actually executes a deadman's switch scenario.

Harold Fjord
Jan 3, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 3 hours!

Flowers for QAnon posted:

Button in the rear end in a top hat for when the corner checks your butt

This was an anime.

Dick Jones
Jun 20, 2002

Number 2 Guy at OCP

The_Continental posted:

He wouldnt need to be persuaded to be violent towards a known Pedo like Epstein. Depending on what he was in for, he could be facing time in Gen Pop of a large federal facility. In that case IT WILL get out that he shared a cell with the man, and probs wouldnt be great for his reputation to have just done nothing.

But ayy im just spitballin, I watch alot of prison documentaries.

It varies from institution to institution, but as a general rule, having "dirty murderous cop" on your paperwork is not conducive to gen pop longevity. Anyone Epstein or Maxwell interacted with on the inside is already in protective custody, and once you've gone PC, gen pop is no longer an option even if you kill a famous pedophile.

End of Shoelace
Apr 5, 2016

Dick Jones posted:

It varies from institution to institution, but as a general rule, having "dirty murderous cop" on your paperwork is not conducive to gen pop longevity. Anyone Epstein or Maxwell interacted with on the inside is already in protective custody, and once you've gone PC, gen pop is no longer an option even if you kill a famous pedophile.

I still can't get over that Epstein was placed in genpop in the first place. The whole of his stay in prison was such a shitshow.

wesleywillis
Dec 30, 2016

SUCK A MALE CAMEL'S DICK WITH MIRACLE WHIP!!

Internetjack posted:

#3 Rent a storage locker/unit that gets opened for lack of payment.


THey could sell the locker on one of those storage wars type programs.

Darryl Sheets:
"well, got a video of (rich person) sodomizing a minor, I can blackmail him for a lot of money, thats a 300,000,000 dollar bill. Big wow factor to that as well".

Comstar
Apr 20, 2007

Are you happy now?
Funny this is allegedly going off tomorrow. I presume it's talking about the owner of some unnamed Football team.

https://twitter.com/DaveSturchio/status/1283554309670666247?s=20

Rainbow Knight
Apr 19, 2006

We die.
We pray.
To live.
We serve

Internetjack posted:

I hope Maxwell does not suicide and spills the beans on lots of predators.

That said, and given all the derails, I am curious about the idea of a deadman's switch scenario. How do you set up a foolproof scenario?

#1 I'd never trust a human, and most plans fall apart at this point. You *could* hire several attorneys around the world to do this, but they could easily become compromised.
#2 Set up an anonymous website with a countdown timer. Anonymous credit cards. Anonymous IPs. This would take a year or two at least to establish untraceable docs and methods of payments. Do several of them.
#3 Rent a storage locker/unit that gets opened for lack of payment.

#4 Do all of these and hope for the best?

I'm seriously trying to be a crimelord here, and would be grateful on any input on how one actually executes a deadman's switch scenario.

solution: tell trump. he can’t keep anything a secret hahaha

there’s probably a destroyer in the mariana archipelago with a railgun aimed at her head anyway so burn it all down imo

e: and by that i mean tell as many people as possible. i’m sure she could figure out a way even from a dungeon. no one is getting punished based on her testimony so whatever, right?

Rainbow Knight fucked around with this message at 13:48 on Jul 16, 2020

Big Beef City
Aug 15, 2013

Comstar posted:

Funny this is allegedly going off tomorrow. I presume it's talking about the owner of some unnamed Football team.

https://twitter.com/DaveSturchio/status/1283554309670666247?s=20

It's Dan Snyder, owner of the Washington (former) Redskins.
Chances are people are pissed that in their opinion he 'caved to politically correct pressure' to rename the team away from 'Redskins'.

The rest of it, regarding people like Jay Gruden (former coach, NFL analyst) etc, appear to be names added to lend credence.

e: or maybe not. There's some story coming about the redskins involving snyder from the WaPo but no one knows what and it's doubtful it lives up to whatever it's being billed as (watch this thing blow open a world government now or something)

Big Beef City fucked around with this message at 15:34 on Jul 16, 2020

Fur20
Nov 14, 2007

すご▞い!
君は働か░い
フ▙▓ズなんだね!

Comstar posted:

Funny this is allegedly going off tomorrow. I presume it's talking about the owner of some unnamed Football team.

https://twitter.com/DaveSturchio/status/1283554309670666247?s=20

oh is ghislaine maxwell testifying in this trial as well

Chumbawumba4ever97
Dec 31, 2000

by Fluffdaddy

Big Beef City posted:

It's Dan Snyder, owner of the Washington (former) Redskins.
Chances are people are pissed that in their opinion he 'caved to politically correct pressure' to rename the team away from 'Redskins'.

The rest of it, regarding people like Jay Gruden (former coach, NFL analyst) etc, appear to be names added to lend credence.

e: or maybe not. There's some story coming about the redskins involving snyder from the WaPo but no one knows what and it's doubtful it lives up to whatever it's being billed as (watch this thing blow open a world government now or something)

What's up with so many pedos being named Dan Snyder

Cubone
May 26, 2011

Because it never leaves its bedroom, no one has ever seen this poster's real face.

Chumbawumba4ever97 posted:

What's up with so many pedos being named Dan Snyder

haha

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Chumbawumba4ever97
Dec 31, 2000

by Fluffdaddy
https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/07/business/jeffrey-epstein-deutsche-bank-fine/?iid=ob_article_organicsidebar_expansion

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