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Literally A Person posted:I mean, have you guys not read the Brazilian Mega-Man comics???? That's actually one of the most interesting about the original Brazilian MegaMan as it was presented in that thread. It has these bizarre protectionist tirades about how Brazil needs to develop its own comic industry instead of just importing American comics, and then you see the result and it's just an inferior cargo-cult knock-off of American superhero comics. The format, the dialog, the action sequences, the characters (originally Japanese but popularized via the US), even the way action words are used, everything about that comic is American or at least trying to be. An actual Brazilian comic that incorporates Brazilian culture, sensibilities, and references, and has its own unique style, might actually have been interesting for the right reasons, though it probably still wouldn't have become popular outside of Brazil.
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Phlegmish posted:The only thing that is weird to me about the American comic industry is the myopic fixation on superheroes. It even extends to the movie industry, with Hollywood having produced a billion superhero movies in the past decade. Is it a strange form of path dependency, where the audience simply doesn't realize that other formats/genres/subjects are possible, so it doesn't occur to anyone to produce anything else? I get how superhero narratives can be satisfying, and that they've actually done some interesting things with them, but I'd really hate for it to be omnipresent like that. I'm not even American and I'm already sick of superheroes. How many more times is Spider-Man going to kill his uncle and break up with his redhead girlfriend because the burden is just too heavy? if it weren't for superhero movies, there wouldn't be any movies based on any kinds of comics. people just really like superhero stories because they're action driven tales about people with fantastic powers. there's really no other mass market storytelling format in the west about magical people saving the world. these stories are popular among all ages and demographics though so they're a good target to make films about i think it scratches the same itch as mythological stories about gods and demigods getting up to shenanigans. human beings just like these kinds of stories but it's hard to make tales like this in a secular, rationalist framework. as an alternative perspective, in india i think there's a more recent connection to mythological folklore so you don't need superheros as a substitute for telling stories about amazing people doing incredible things (it's also worth pointing out how many western superheros are just straight up adaptations of distant folklore, like thor) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkgaUY3VJHY e: i don't want to imply here that india is stuck in the past or anything, just that there's a traditional well of folklore stories to draw from if you want to make a heroic epic about people who can fly or whatever. this is specifically absent in america so superheros are almost like a synthetic form of folklore about godly humans Mr. Fall Down Terror fucked around with this message at 17:37 on Jul 16, 2020 |
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Phlegmish posted:I do think it makes sense for most of 'our' comics not to be popular in the US, they're often pretty culture-specific. A lot of Flemish comics, even some of the locally huge ones, are so culture-bound that they've never even caught on in the Netherlands and/or Wallonia. Conversely, I've never really read an American comic in my life, and I have no particular desire to. So one thing I only recently found out is the American market for comics is actually really small, and shrinking. Like even the biggest Marvel and DC series struggle to achieve six-figure sales, while runs in the millions are normal for the biggest Belgian comics. Growing up as a kid i don't think I had more than 10 issues total (Batman vs Aliens was admittedly pretty sweet). I never talked about comic book characters with my fellow kids and only knew a handful of people into them. I don't really know why Americans are so indifferent to visual literature, but it is indisputably the case that they are. Maybe its just that we watch more tv instead?
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Squalid posted:So one thing I only recently found out is the American market for comics is actually really small, and shrinking. Like even the biggest Marvel and DC series struggle to achieve six-figure sales, while runs in the millions are normal for the biggest Belgian comics. Growing up as a kid i don't think I had more than 10 issues total (Batman vs Aliens was admittedly pretty sweet). I never talked about comic book characters with my fellow kids and only knew a handful of people into them. maybe it's that american comics boxed themselves into a corner publishing cape books, and really heavy personal graphic novels about tragedy, so a lot of non-american comics get translated to the american market for other demographics. like if you want teenage comics about romance that's pretty much all just imported manga anyway to keep it blessed here's another wild rear end scene from that indian epic movie https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDte-axR9l8
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Squalid posted:So one thing I only recently found out is the American market for comics is actually really small, and shrinking. Like even the biggest Marvel and DC series struggle to achieve six-figure sales, while runs in the millions are normal for the biggest Belgian comics. Growing up as a kid i don't think I had more than 10 issues total (Batman vs Aliens was admittedly pretty sweet). I never talked about comic book characters with my fellow kids and only knew a handful of people into them. Comics were condemned for a long time as being for low class kids. I wasn't allowed to own them because they would make me dumb Little did my parents know
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wait so the average american has no idea at all that there are other comics in the world that are not superhero garbage? lol you did it again USA #1
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the average american does not read comics full stop.
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Phlegmish posted:Bidets. gently caress, I'm tempted. E: technically blessed content now that I think about it.
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Cocaine Bear posted:gently caress, I'm tempted. This is GBS not PYF, just post, I've been wondering about the beneficial and wholesome effects that bidets would have on my anus
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necroid posted:wait so the average american has no idea at all that there are other comics in the world that are not superhero garbage? There was a moral panic in the 1950s that led to an equivalent to the film code as far as heavy-handed moral censorship, except even more heavy-handed, and obviously designed to kill off the non superhero genres. The biggest horror comic, Tales From the Crypt, lasted just long enough to stand up a new business plan around Mad Magazine. Most of the others just fell the gently caress over. The only other noncape comic survivors from that era that didn't just leave the industry are, like, Archie. Now there's zillions of American non super hero comics coming out all the time and most Americans just don't know. Occasionally you even get a movie based on one where people who see it don't realize, like Road to Perdition. Blue Footed Booby fucked around with this message at 18:40 on Jul 16, 2020 |
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uber_stoat posted:the average american does not read comics full stop. oh ok, I just reread a couple of previous posts and now I get it I guess the newer generations became all weebs and turned from superhero comics to mangas? also I don't get why "european comics" seem to be perceived as something niche, I'm far from a comic book collector but I've read my fair share of graphic novels and non-superhero, non-manga comic books from all over the world, I don't categorize them by country of origin but now that I think about it maybe it's because everytime I visit a new city and I happen to find a comic shop I give a good look around and if I find something interesting I'll buy it I remember buying Crumb's Weirdo Years book at a comic shop when I was in Brooklyn ages ago, that place was nice (found it! https://www.desertislandbrooklyn.com/ )
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Squalid posted:So one thing I only recently found out is the American market for comics is actually really small, and shrinking. Like even the biggest Marvel and DC series struggle to achieve six-figure sales, while runs in the millions are normal for the biggest Belgian comics. Growing up as a kid i don't think I had more than 10 issues total (Batman vs Aliens was admittedly pretty sweet). I never talked about comic book characters with my fellow kids and only knew a handful of people into them. The general culture surrounding them is different, I think. Speaking of Flanders specifically since that's obviously what I'm most familiar with, almost every child grows up reading them, or they did when I was that age (about twenty years ago). It doesn't matter if you're a boy or a girl. There's a wide range of comics specifically aimed at children, that also don't try to be anything else. They usually follow the basic formula of various characters with their specific quirks going on strange adventures around the world (or even elsewhere). They do tend to be a bit like Tintin, although I've never thought about it that way until now since, as I said, Tintin is only moderately popular here. When you grow up you usually stop reading them, but you can look back at them with nostalgia, and without shame, maybe go back to see if there were references you missed as a child. Suske & Wiske, probably the Flemish comic of the 20th century, had a lot of subtle little references here and there, from the struggle to have Dutch accepted as equal to French in Belgium, to the alienation of the working class via repetitive factory work (this was the pre-post-industrial era), that you probably wouldn't have picked up on as a child. The themes would often be inspired by science fiction or philosophy. Not bad at all for a children's comic, I still have a few of them lying around. Maybe you then go on to read more adult comics, maybe you don't, but there's not a huge barrier. Few people will think you're immature for having the latest Thorgal lying around. From what I've observed of American comics, I think that could be the problem with them. They don't know what they want, what their target audience is, and maybe that's where the 'manchild' stigma comes from. It's often too dark, 'edgy', often also too wordy or unrelatable for young children. At the same time, many adults will think the themes, dialog, and characters are juvenile, try-hard, repetitive or ridiculous (don't @ me I know there's been good stuff). That leaves you with a natural demographic of teenaged boys going through their edgy phase, and people on both sides of that age range who are able to tolerate that sort of content. It's just not enough for it to be truly popular. This is just based on my limited contact with American comics, almost exclusively second-hand through other popular media, so feel free to voice your thoughts in this, the comics thread.
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Phlegmish posted:This is GBS not PYF, just post, I've been wondering about the beneficial and wholesome effects that bidets would have on my anus My girlfriend snagged one right when quarantine hit and people were freaking out about toilet paper. Heated seat, heated water, and a fan to dry you off. Butthole luxury/pleasures, my dude.
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Phlegmish posted:This is GBS not PYF, just post, I've been wondering about the beneficial and wholesome effects that bidets would have on my anus Few things will change your life more than a bidet. They're like 40 bux on Amazon and come with everything you need to install (takes about 5 mins, 15 if you're not good with tools). Only time you'll regret it is when you're forced to poop somewhere without one and you're reminded of the utter savagery of spearing poop around your anus with flattened tree pulp. And I'm not talking about those separate bubbler things they use in France, I mean a toilet mounted one that will blast the poop particles off your rear end at Mach 2. Prebuttals: Eww it's gross! No, you're gross for cleaning poop off your body with dry paper like you're loving Tarzan or something. It's weird! See above answer But then you just have a wet bum! A wet, clean bum. And you can either use some paper to dry off, keep a towel nearby to dab down your nethers, or up your twerk game (I suggest progressing towards the latter). Cold water sounds horrible down there! Eh, you can get a heated model if you're so inclined but you need a second water line and the install becomes complex. You'll get used to cold and is actually pretty refreshing on hot days and is the only effective countermeasures to chronic swamp rear end. I have Lady Parts and don't want to, uh, spray my v with by b water. You can angle it by sliding up or down the seat. Or you can get a dual nozzle type made just for women and I guess men with long assholes. What if some water shoots up my b hole? Then you rinse your colon a bit. In fact, you can intentionally give yourself a mini enema if you're, uh, a bit bound up. (note: I'm no expert so maybe consult a physician before using this as a douche, though I've noticed no issues). The pressure is too high! You can adjust it and pressure is definitely your friend. Finally, ever been sick or hungover and had to poop like a dozen times in a day and your rear end gets raw and bloody from all the friction? Not anymore! poo poo as often as you like without brutalizing your rear end. It's also got some sex application. Pm me if you're curious and they aren't obvious. E: oh and when the pandemic hit and there were tp shortages, anyone with a bidet was laughing to the bank. Get a bidet. I suggest the luxe neo 110 or 120 on amazing for like 44.99-64.99 E2: I'm not a fat guy, but my fat friends say it's a game changer on numerous levels. Go to your hardware store or whatever and get one today. Cocaine Bear fucked around with this message at 19:07 on Jul 16, 2020 |
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maybe americans don't read comics because we're too busy making them happen irl?   Come to think of it, my little brother did go through a Tintin phase. I was never as into it but I always like flipping through his copies. Meanwhile my sister was sorta into Archie comics and related series like Josie and the Pussycats. If you aren't familiar with those last two they are what Blue Footed Booby was talking about when he mentioned the heavy handed censorship of the fifties. Think super saccharine settings, extremely sexually modest, bland romance, cheap soulless art, and childish adventure.  On the otherhand, what i DO remember reading a lot of in my youth was what are called YA novels, or Young Adult. Were those popular in Belgium as well? A typical bookstore will have huge YA sections and they usually contain stories about the same as what you described as featuring in Belgian comics. I guess Harry Potter is the most internationally popular example, but for every Harry Potter there's like a thousand similar down-on-their-luck youths thrust into equally fantastical settings.
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Tintin is a very solid comic series, but also a bit dry and boring. The titular character isn't as saccharine/hypocritical as his American counterparts of the time, but he's still an asexual goody two-shoes Mary Sue. At least he has a foul-mouthed alcoholic sidekick to make up for it. e: and yeah, YA novels were popular here as well, though they were less likely to be locally produced (you did have Marc De Bel and others). A lot of what I read back then came from international authors such as Roald Dahl. I remember my sister and I also used to read Enid Blyton novels such as the Famous Five and the Baby-Sitters Club (translated into Dutch, natch). Honestly, even back then I thought they were kind of lame, a lot of comics such as the aforementioned Suske & Wiske were actually deeper and more engaging, even if it was broadly the same formula. Phlegmish fucked around with this message at 19:25 on Jul 16, 2020 |
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sorry if I butt in your bidet conversation but it's always triggering whenever I see it discussed as some weird occult ritual I can't speak for other countries but here in Italy this sort of setup is the norm in bathrooms :  you've got your toilet where you pee and you poop, and next to it you've got the bidet, so that once you're done wiping you : 1) move over to the bidet 2) turn on the water and let it splash your rear end 3) get some water + soap on your hand 4) give your filthy rear end and/or genitals a good thorough soapy rub, just like you'd do in the shower (unless you're an incel afraid of turning gay just by touching your taint) 5) use your bidet towel (different from hand towel obviously) to dry your now super clean rear end and genitals 6) wash your hands in the sink 7) resume living with a clean rear end like a civilized person instead of walking around all day with an itchy butthole encrusted in poo poo residue I'm always confused by these bidet attachments you speak of, I hope they are external hoses and not something attached to the inside of the toilet because otherwise it'd get sprayed with piss and poo poo constantly, which is sort of counter-intuitive for something that's meant to blast your rear end with water to clean it. also I'm confused by how you're supposed to shove it near your rear end without constantly bumping your hands into the seat and the toilet, since it's your toilet it might be cleaner than a public restroom but it's still something I wouldn't want to touch directly after I'm done pooping to sum things up : if you have room in your bathroom I suggest installing a whole bidet instead of just an attachment e : what really really really confuses me is how can you have enjoyable sex with stinky taints? 90% of the times I try to get a quick cleanup before sex so that I can do everything I want without fear that my rear end or crotch will smell awful, and it's always been the norm for my partners as well 
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necroid posted:sorry if I butt in your bidet conversation but it's always triggering whenever I see it discussed as some weird occult ritual I've used both (as well as the hose next to the toilet models you find around SE Asia) and the in toilet ones are by far the best combo of power, speed, and convenience. They all have a cover that opens and closes when the bidet is in use or not. They also have a cleaning function that allows them to hose down the nozzle just before you use it. The arm hangs low and sprays up on a 35-40 degree angle. It's a small powerful stream that will get you right in the butthole (you can kind of wiggle around a bit to hit a larger area). I have a huge rear end (6'6" w lots of muscle) and it fits me and my tiny wife (5'3") just fine. Also, the answer to almost any follow up is that everyone that gets one almost immediately becomes fanatical about how good they are. It's not some quirky thing about people liking water up the rear end, they're just that much better than the alternative. Also, anyone saying they're dumb or don't work that hasn't used on is a loving moron (not accusing anyone here, that's just the usual response I get. My dad asked about mine while helping me move and when I explained he he said something like "I don't need it because I'm not a girl" which is a pretty typical response. They're just really great! Try one!) E: yeah, it's great pre and post sex. It does it all! E2: If I'm going through all the trouble for the French (or whatever) style you describe, might as well just take a shower, as I do any time I poop on vacation. Also, it's more than just room to install on of those big ones, it's tearing up floors, running plumbing, installing flanges etc. loving expensive and space consuming and most of us here are poor. Cocaine Bear fucked around with this message at 19:48 on Jul 16, 2020 |
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I am not knocking bidets but lol @ not having one = itchy poo poo encrusted butthole
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Also saves you money because you'll never buy to again and saves the environment by using much less wasteful municipal water instead of rainforest pulp.
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The Bloop posted:I am not knocking bidets but lol @ not having one = itchy poo poo encrusted butthole Everyone is different. I never had problems of smelling like poo poo all day or itching or whatever but it's still orders of magnitude better than paper. I'm sure if you got some poop on your forearm you could do a pretty good job with dry paper but why bother when there's a high pressure hose right there?
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I use American comics to wipe my itchy poo poo encrusted butthole e: btw JoelJoel you've fallen into my trap, finally we can turn the tables  :Let's talk more about bidets. How do you feel about bidets? Don't hold back. Tell us your feelings on the topic of bidets. No, it's very interesting, go on. What do you really think about them? Phlegmish fucked around with this message at 19:55 on Jul 16, 2020 |
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necroid posted:sorry if I butt in your bidet conversation but it's always triggering whenever I see it discussed as some weird occult ritual This kind of bidet just seems like a lot of work. I'm finally getting a cheap cold water bidet attachment this month and I'm psyched
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necroid posted:sorry if I butt in your bidet conversation but it's always triggering whenever I see it discussed as some weird occult ritual we never got a real answer before. Do guests in your house use your rear end towel, and do you then use it again after them? Does each person get their own monogrammed junk wiper?
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Phlegmish posted:I use American comics to wipe my itchy poo poo encrusted butthole wiping poo poo with more poo poo? ...seems counterproductive
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Phlegmish posted:I use American comics to wipe my itchy poo poo encrusted butthole Lol, very fair. Someone give me a sixer for falling for such obvious bait. I'm just too passionate about  hygiene
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Cocaine Bear posted:Lol, very fair. Someone give me a sixer for falling for such obvious bait. I'm just too passionate about My friend [grasps your shoulder for an uncomfortably long time] this is GBS, all is forgiven
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The Bloop posted:I am not knocking bidets but lol @ not having one = itchy poo poo encrusted butthole it was an exaggeration but I really wouldn't want to eat a pussy or an rear end that's not been washed after a day of hard work I speak out of experience because I lived in a house without bidet when I was younger and I hated the feeling of not being completely clean, especially whenever I got a non-ideal poo poo and I had to use a lot of wipes which in turn tended to irritate my butthole considering how meat-heavy and fiber-poor the average american diet looks from this side of the ocean I can't stomach what is my mental image of the average american butthole
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The Bloop posted:we never got a real answer before. everyone has their own mini-towel and we wash them regularly with the rest of the laundry guests can just use toilet paper I guess? that's what I do in other people's houses, just a wad of tp to dry my butt if it's a partner they can just use mine or I will give them one of mine e : to clarify "everyone in a household tipically has their own mini-towel", we don't walk around constantly carrying our personal butt towels with us necroid fucked around with this message at 20:06 on Jul 16, 2020 |
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I genuinely like Henry Cavill, he seems nice and got screwed by getting tied to a version of Superman no one liked, but I'd still kill to be a fly on the wall during the meeting where some agent has to explain to him how to build a PC and why doing so on Instagram is a great PR.
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mind the walrus posted:I genuinely like Henry Cavill, he seems nice and got screwed by getting tied to a version of Superman no one liked, but I'd still kill to be a fly on the wall during the meeting where some agent has to explain to him how to build a PC and why doing so on Instagram is a great PR. hes a serious gamer lol he took the witcher role because he loves the games
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