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Torchlight 2 is fine, but not particularly great or exciting or even very tough. If Torchlight 3 stays the course though then Torchlight 2 might be the last decent Torchlight, so there's that. But Path of Exile already exists and is already free, so eh.
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Yeah, when you have the options of Grim Dawn, Path of Exile and Diablo III there is zero reason at all to play torchlight II, even if it’s free.
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Ugly In The Morning posted:Yeah, when you have the options of Grim Dawn, Path of Exile and Diablo III there is zero reason at all to play torchlight II, even if it’s free. Did modding do nothing to help?
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THE BAR posted:Did modding do nothing to help? nope.
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I've now gone a step beyond not remembering I've bought games on Steam to not remembering receiving free games on other services. I opened Uplay to make sure the Watch_Dogs 2 thing went through, and was surprised to find Watch_Dogs 1 right next to it. I don't know how that got there, but I definitely didn't buy it. There's also six Assassin's Creed games I never paid for. My backlog of free games could eat up the rest of my life, never mind the backlog of games I've bought.
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A good poster posted:I've now gone a step beyond not remembering I've bought games on Steam to not remembering receiving free games on other services. I opened Uplay to make sure the Watch_Dogs 2 thing went through, and was surprised to find Watch_Dogs 1 right next to it. I don't know how that got there, but I definitely didn't buy it. There's also six Assassin's Creed games I never paid for. My backlog of free games could eat up the rest of my life, never mind the backlog of games I've bought. The first Watch_Dogs was an Epic giveaway a while back. A bunch of rear end Creeds have been given away too.
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WD1 was given by Ubi a long while ago, I think before EGS even existed. I got The Crew from the same event iirc
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Ugly In The Morning posted:Yeah, when you have the options of Grim Dawn, Path of Exile and Diablo III there is zero reason at all to play torchlight II, even if it’s free. Especially when Path of Exile is itself free. I tried Torchlight II after burning out on PoE, and ended up just stepping away from ARPGs for a bit instead.
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Jul 17, 2020 00:31
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Coolguye posted:nope. I disagree. I found a lot of fun mods for TL2, and enjoyed it. Then again, I don't like POE, and I got tired of Grim Dawn's billion elements really quickly.
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Jul 17, 2020 01:48
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Sleeveless posted:Torchlight was basically methodone for fans of Diablo-likes in the dry spell between Diablo 2 clones being a thing and the release of Diablo 3 and the flood of quality indie ARPGs that followed. I don't really know how well it would hold up. This is an apt description of Torchlight. It's hard though, to put a finger on why it (and Diablo 3 to a lesser extent) don't scratch the Diablo itch that well for many. Torchlight is "Can we have Diablo? We already have Diablo at home".
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Jul 17, 2020 03:59
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It’s one of those that you should only be playing with friends. Like Hammerwatch.
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Zesty posted:It’s one of those that you should only be playing with friends. Like Hammerwatch. If I had friends, why would I be playing computer video games 
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Jul 17, 2020 10:09
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Over at GOG, Warhammer 40k: Rites of War is free for the next 48-ish hours.
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Wishing for kart racer Warhammer 40K rites of way
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El_Elegante posted:Wishing for kart racer Warhammer 40K rites of way Would unironically totally grab this day one, regardless of the gameplay. Also a version like Rocket League.
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El_Elegante posted:Wishing for kart racer Warhammer 40K rites of way 
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That would be so sick
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Eh, Orks would win all races anyway, just by painting their vehicle red. It's kind of unfair to all them other species.
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You'd think that, but somehow Ork Dastardly and his pet squig always come last due to some ignominious plot backfiring. But there's always next time on 40k Races!
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Saoshyant posted:Eh, Orks would win all races anyway, just by painting their vehicle red. It's kind of unfair to all them other species.  tight aspirations posted:You'd think that, but somehow Ork Dastardly and his pet squig always come last due to some ignominious plot backfiring. But there's always next time on 40k Races! * intensifies*Kheldarn posted:I disagree. I found a lot of fun mods for TL2, and enjoyed it. yeah i should probably have pointed out as part of this discussion that ARPGs are very weirdly to taste and you might end up liking it for poorly defined or literally no reason because fans of the genre frequently have a difficult time agreeing on what makes things good and what makes things bad.
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Saoshyant posted:Eh, Orks would win all races anyway, just by painting their vehicle red. It's kind of unfair to all them other species. That's why Speed Freeks is all Ork. I remember a long, long time ago at my LGS we were kinda working on a system for an actual all-factions-allowed WH40K tabletop racing/free-for-all system with an actual track, like Carmageddon but tabletop-based. It never came to anything because big oof at balancing that and no one else wanted to just go for it with the rules-as-written and, you know, playtest it for balance? In retrospect I should have just pressed harder on the "gently caress it let's just run it and see what happens" angle.
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tight aspirations posted:You'd think that, but somehow Ork Dastardly and his pet squig always come last due to some ignominious plot backfiring. But there's always next time on 40k Races! *hurriedly scrolls up to see if Ork Dastardly was in that picture* Aw 
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Coolguye posted:yeah i should probably have pointed out as part of this discussion that ARPGs are very weirdly to taste and you might end up liking it for poorly defined or literally no reason because fans of the genre frequently have a difficult time agreeing on what makes things good and what makes things bad. diablo's direct ancestors are roguelikes, so this checks out
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Kheldarn posted:I disagree. I found a lot of fun mods for TL2, and enjoyed it. What mods are you using, there's a metric gently caress ton on nexusmods.
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Skwirl posted:What mods are you using, there's a metric gently caress ton on nexusmods. I used various ones from Steam. I didn't even know about the existance of NexusMods when I was playing. I ended up having to download their tool that lets you make your own mods so that I could combine all of the Does 1 Thing mods. Looking at the Workshop page, I'm subsribed to: SynergiesMOD Generic Rewards - Multi Classmod Fix Showing Secret Rooms Ehchantable Pet Accessories Unusable Items Are Dark HUD Expanse Silent Narrator Indicators Premium Ripper's Armory [Golden Chest] With Uniques Unique Beams Map Keybinds (Toggle & Hold) Better Loot Colors Fish Details BAGMOD And then I had these various mods for new classes: The Double Agent Emberblade Far East Pack Reaver Drew's Class Pack
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Lutha Mahtin posted:diablo's direct ancestors are roguelikes, so this checks out The first Diablo is a roguelike.
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i will end you for your sacrilege the defining traits of a roguelike are: ancient runes being used to simulate graphics, a day night cycle with four simultaneous days, and the ability to transform walls into bananas so i can eat them
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Samuringa posted:The first Diablo is a roguelike. The first Guild Wars is a Diablo 
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Lutha Mahtin posted:The first Guild Wars is a Diablo the first guild wars was a team deathmatch/ctf arena
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Action RPGs are such a weird genre for me. I hardly like any of then to be honest, not even Diablo 2 TBH. I hated the first Torchlight and bounced off the second. But, I loved the Champions of Norrath and Baldur's Gate games for PS2. Plus I played through Titan Quest + Expansion way way way too many times.
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Lutha Mahtin posted:diablo's direct ancestors are roguelikes, so this checks out It also checks out because if you dissect Diablo 2 into its constituent parts it's a pile of bizarre mechanics and obfuscation, but taken altogether it's one of the best games ever made.
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Console Diablo 3 ruined me for arpgs because it's just way less fun for me to play kb/m. Controller makes it very easy to just veg out and roll through the game
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D3 is pretty unique among arpgs i've played for getting you rolling towards becoming an unstoppable murderball pretty early
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site posted:Console Diablo 3 ruined me for arpgs because it's just way less fun for me to play kb/m. Controller makes it very easy to just veg out and roll through the game Keyboard movement is an acceptable substitute, at least for me, but that's almost as rare as controller support.
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Is there a game that did Diablo but as a twin stick shooter?
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I feel like Torchlight 1 had merit at the time (and I'd argue still does to an extent) for being a take on Diablo 1, something not done in years because every other game was trying to be Diablo 2. Then Torchlight 2 came to the party late trying to be Diablo 2 while all of its contemporaries were busy finally moving the genre forward a bit. Made all the worse because the streamlined, casual-friendly approach T1 took was a good fit but applying the same to D2's framework is no easy feat and clearly they didn't nail it.
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Dark_Swordmaster posted:Is there a game that did Diablo but as a twin stick shooter? I have no idea but if you like twin stick shooters you should play Assault Android Cactus if you haven’t already.
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Dark_Swordmaster posted:Is there a game that did Diablo but as a twin stick shooter? Not that I know of, but there are good twin stick roguelites such out there, such as Nuclear Throne and Enter the Gungeon.
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