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uninterrupted
Jun 20, 2011

Gaupo Guacho posted:

a lot of leftists know she's a sketchy character so they single out her weird BJP cronyism while still hewing to the assad-did-nothing-wrong party line. because the US wants assad gone he's automatically a good and cool leftist and all the people he mowed down were jihadis taking arms from the CIA

hey just checking, the warlord tearing rear end through libya is still a us citizen who spent multiple decades living in langley right?

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Ardennes
May 12, 2002

Gaupo Guacho posted:

yeah the srbrenica massacre was a fake CIA op too

Srebrenica wasn't an op, but as another poster said, it happened in 1996, not 1999. The war in Kosovo was unjustified. NATO started bombing Belgrade while negotiations were still occurring. The problem is the US used the tragedy of Serbrenica to launch a war against Serbians for its own ends, and the region hasn't recovered since.

PERPETUAL IDIOT
Sep 12, 2003

Ardennes posted:

Srebrenica wasn't an op, but as another poster said, it happened in 1996, not 1999. The war in Kosovo was unjustified. NATO started bombing Belgrade while negotiations were still occurring. The problem is the US used the tragedy of Serbrenica to launch a war against Serbians for its own ends, and the region hasn't recovered since.

It's absolutely recovered, at least within the enormous military base the US built in Kosovo. Things are looking real bright there.

paul_soccer12
Jan 5, 2020

by Fluffdaddy
Omelette

Goast
Jul 23, 2011

by VideoGames
lmao why do morons throw the word tankie around when talking about syria

hmmmm you seem to not hate this assad guy enough, i bet you like stalin too :rolleyes:

Egg Moron
Jul 21, 2003

the dreams of the delighting void

If you don't think that Syria should be exactly the first stage of metal gear solid 4


You might be a tankie

mila kunis
Jun 10, 2011
i love reddit folks

Stringent
Dec 22, 2004


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mila kunis posted:

i love reddit folks



lol

Kurnugia
Sep 2, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo
that's pretty much hitler

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
Seymour Hersh HAS written books about US war crimes

Lmao

Doktor Avalanche
Dec 30, 2008

mila kunis posted:

i love reddit folks



"a realistic understanding of war crimes" means "when we do it, it's not illegal"

Stringent
Dec 22, 2004


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Doctor Jeep posted:

"a realistic understanding of war crimes" means "when we do it, it's not illegal"

objectively true

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat

gradenko_2000 posted:

Seymour Hersh HAS written books about US war crimes

Lmao

He's saying "Why isn't Seymour Hersh writing books about the bad Iraqis? :qq:"

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

MEK update

https://twitter.com/ntabrizy/status/1284581814586298373?s=20
https://twitter.com/Seamus_Malek/status/1284176991349071872?s=20

https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-resolution/374/cosponsors?r=8&s=1&searchResultViewType=expanded
God drat all of these people

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Rep. Sherman, Brad [D-CA-30]* 05/10/2019
Rep. Johnson, Henry C. "Hank," Jr. [D-GA-4]* 05/10/2019
Rep. Luetkemeyer, Blaine [R-MO-3]* 05/10/2019
Rep. Wagner, Ann [R-MO-2]* 05/10/2019
Rep. Hurd, Will [R-TX-23]* 05/10/2019
Rep. Webster, Daniel [R-FL-11]* 05/10/2019
Rep. Brooks, Mo [R-AL-5]* 05/10/2019
Rep. Cartwright, Matt [D-PA-8]* 05/10/2019
Rep. Weber, Randy K., Sr. [R-TX-14]* 05/10/2019
Rep. Budd, Ted [R-NC-13]* 05/10/2019
Rep. Mooney, Alexander X. [R-WV-2]* 05/10/2019
Rep. Cook, Paul [R-CA-8]* 05/10/2019
Rep. LaMalfa, Doug [R-CA-1]* 05/10/2019
Rep. Fitzpatrick, Brian K. [R-PA-1]* 05/10/2019
Rep. Grothman, Glenn [R-WI-6]* 05/10/2019
Rep. Diaz-Balart, Mario [R-FL-25]* 05/10/2019
Rep. Stefanik, Elise M. [R-NY-21]* 05/10/2019
Rep. Steube, W. Gregory [R-FL-17]* 05/10/2019
Rep. Jackson Lee, Sheila [D-TX-18]* 05/10/2019
Rep. Wilson, Joe [R-SC-2]* 05/10/2019
Rep. Higgins, Brian [D-NY-26]* 05/10/2019
Rep. Sensenbrenner, F. James, Jr. [R-WI-5]* 05/10/2019
Rep. Stewart, Chris [R-UT-2]* 05/10/2019
Rep. Lesko, Debbie [R-AZ-8]* 05/10/2019
Rep. Clay, Wm. Lacy [D-MO-1]* 05/10/2019
Rep. Riggleman, Denver [R-VA-5]* 05/10/2019
Rep. Fleischmann, Charles J. "Chuck" [R-TN-3]* 05/10/2019
Rep. Gohmert, Louie [R-TX-1]* 05/10/2019
Rep. Crenshaw, Dan [R-TX-2]* 05/10/2019
Rep. Johnson, Bill [R-OH-6]* 05/10/2019
Rep. McKinley, David B. [R-WV-1]* 05/10/2019
Rep. Walker, Mark [R-NC-6]* 05/10/2019
Rep. Norman, Ralph [R-SC-5]* 05/10/2019
Rep. Hartzler, Vicky [R-MO-4]* 05/10/2019
Rep. Miller, Carol D. [R-WV-3]* 05/10/2019
Rep. Peterson, Collin C. [D-MN-7]* 05/10/2019
Rep. Allred, Colin Z. [D-TX-32]* 05/10/2019
Rep. Burgess, Michael C. [R-TX-26]* 05/10/2019
Rep. Loudermilk, Barry [R-GA-11] 05/16/2019
Rep. Walorski, Jackie [R-IN-2] 05/16/2019
Rep. Collins, Chris [R-NY-27] 05/16/2019
Rep. Bilirakis, Gus M. [R-FL-12] 05/16/2019
Rep. Shimkus, John [R-IL-15] 05/16/2019
Rep. Davis, Rodney [R-IL-13] 05/16/2019
Rep. Mast, Brian J. [R-FL-18] 05/16/2019
Rep. Marshall, Roger W. [R-KS-1] 05/16/2019
Rep. Yoho, Ted S. [R-FL-3] 05/16/2019
Rep. Abraham, Ralph Lee [R-LA-5] 05/17/2019
Rep. Rooney, Francis [R-FL-19] 05/17/2019
Rep. King, Peter T. [R-NY-2] 05/17/2019
Rep. Calvert, Ken [R-CA-42] 05/17/2019
Rep. Garamendi, John [D-CA-3] 05/22/2019
Rep. Ryan, Tim [D-OH-13] 05/30/2019
Rep. Roe, David P. [R-TN-1] 05/30/2019
Rep. Gooden, Lance [R-TX-5] 05/30/2019
Rep. Aderholt, Robert B. [R-AL-4] 05/30/2019
Rep. Marchant, Kenny [R-TX-24] 05/30/2019
Rep. Davis, Danny K. [D-IL-7] 06/03/2019
Rep. Latta, Robert E. [R-OH-5] 06/04/2019
Rep. Green, Mark E. [R-TN-7] 06/04/2019
Rep. Perry, Scott [R-PA-10] 06/10/2019
Rep. Ruiz, Raul [D-CA-36] 06/10/2019
Rep. Zeldin, Lee M. [R-NY-1] 06/10/2019
Rep. Bacon, Don [R-NE-2] 06/10/2019
Rep. Reschenthaler, Guy [R-PA-14] 06/10/2019
Rep. Gianforte, Greg [R-MT-At Large] 06/18/2019
Rep. Tipton, Scott R. [R-CO-3] 06/18/2019
Rep. Cole, Tom [R-OK-4] 06/18/2019
Rep. Rouzer, David [R-NC-7] 06/18/2019
Rep. Graves, Tom [R-GA-14] 06/18/2019
Rep. Moolenaar, John R. [R-MI-4] 06/18/2019
Rep. Huizenga, Bill [R-MI-2] 06/18/2019
Rep. Ratcliffe, John [R-TX-4] 06/20/2019
Rep. Bost, Mike [R-IL-12] 06/20/2019
Rep. Wright, Ron [R-TX-6] 06/20/2019
Rep. Balderson, Troy [R-OH-12] 06/27/2019
Rep. Taylor, Van [R-TX-3] 06/27/2019
Rep. Smith, Adrian [R-NE-3] 06/27/2019
Rep. DesJarlais, Scott [R-TN-4] 07/09/2019
Rep. Babin, Brian [R-TX-36] 07/09/2019
Rep. Curtis, John R. [R-UT-3] 07/09/2019
Rep. Watkins, Steve [R-KS-2] 07/17/2019
Rep. Bishop, Rob [R-UT-1] 07/17/2019
Rep. Griffith, H. Morgan [R-VA-9] 07/17/2019
Rep. Estes, Ron [R-KS-4] 07/17/2019
Rep. McMorris Rodgers, Cathy [R-WA-5] 07/18/2019
Rep. Collins, Doug [R-GA-9] 07/23/2019
Rep. Wittman, Robert J. [R-VA-1] 07/24/2019
Rep. Amodei, Mark E. [R-NV-2] 08/13/2019
Rep. Bergman, Jack [R-MI-1] 08/23/2019
Rep. Flores, Bill [R-TX-17] 08/23/2019
Rep. Fulcher, Russ [R-ID-1] 08/23/2019
Rep. Olson, Pete [R-TX-22] 08/27/2019
Rep. Cardenas, Tony [D-CA-29] 09/06/2019
Rep. Schweikert, David [R-AZ-6] 09/10/2019
Rep. Gosar, Paul A. [R-AZ-4] 09/10/2019
Rep. Palmer, Gary J. [R-AL-6] 09/12/2019
Rep. Stauber, Pete [R-MN-8] 09/24/2019
Rep. Scott, David [D-GA-13] 10/16/2019
Rep. Castro, Joaquin [D-TX-20] 10/16/2019
Rep. Bucshon, Larry [R-IN-8] 10/16/2019
Rep. Bera, Ami [D-CA-7] 10/16/2019
Rep. Lofgren, Zoe [D-CA-19] 10/22/2019
Rep. Correa, J. Luis [D-CA-46] 10/29/2019
Rep. Phillips, Dean [D-MN-3] 10/29/2019
Rep. Cheney, Liz [R-WY-At Large] 10/29/2019
Rep. Westerman, Bruce [R-AR-4] 10/29/2019
Rep. Dunn, Neal P. [R-FL-2] 10/29/2019
Rep. Bishop, Sanford D., Jr. [D-GA-2] 10/29/2019
Rep. Peters, Scott H. [D-CA-52] 11/13/2019
Rep. Stivers, Steve [R-OH-15] 11/13/2019
Rep. Comer, James [R-KY-1] 11/13/2019
Rep. Cohen, Steve [D-TN-9] 11/15/2019
Rep. Wenstrup, Brad R. [R-OH-2] 11/15/2019
Rep. Craig, Angie [D-MN-2] 11/15/2019
Rep. Holding, George [R-NC-2] 11/21/2019
Rep. DeSaulnier, Mark [D-CA-11] 11/21/2019
Rep. Hudson, Richard [R-NC-8] 11/22/2019
Rep. Chu, Judy [D-CA-27] 12/04/2019
Rep. Gonzalez, Vicente [D-TX-15] 12/04/2019
Rep. Payne, Donald M., Jr. [D-NJ-10] 12/04/2019
Rep. Biggs, Andy [R-AZ-5] 12/10/2019
Rep. Van Drew, Jefferson [D-NJ-2] 12/10/2019
Rep. Norton, Eleanor Holmes [D-DC-At Large] 12/19/2019
Rep. Cunningham, Joe [D-SC-1] 12/19/2019
Rep. Walberg, Tim [R-MI-7] 01/08/2020
Rep. Brooks, Susan W. [R-IN-5] 01/16/2020
Rep. Carter, Earl L. "Buddy" [R-GA-1] 01/17/2020
Rep. Woodall, Rob [R-GA-7] 01/28/2020
Rep. Cline, Ben [R-VA-6] 01/28/2020
Rep. Burchett, Tim [R-TN-2] 01/28/2020
Rep. Brownley, Julia [D-CA-26] 01/28/2020
Rep. Wilson, Frederica S. [D-FL-24] 01/29/2020
Rep. Harder, Josh [D-CA-10] 02/04/2020
Rep. Hill, J. French [R-AR-2] 02/04/2020
Rep. Young, Don [R-AK-At Large] 02/04/2020
Rep. McBath, Lucy [D-GA-6] 02/04/2020
Rep. Hice, Jody B. [R-GA-10] 02/06/2020
Rep. Scott, Austin [R-GA-8] 02/07/2020
Rep. Ferguson, A. Drew, IV [R-GA-3] 02/07/2020
Rep. Lamborn, Doug [R-CO-5] 02/07/2020
Rep. Kuster, Ann M. [D-NH-2] 02/07/2020
Rep. Lowenthal, Alan S. [D-CA-47] 02/07/2020
Rep. Gaetz, Matt [R-FL-1] 02/10/2020
Rep. Hagedorn, Jim [R-MN-1] 02/11/2020
Rep. Barr, Andy [R-KY-6] 02/11/2020
Rep. Baird, James R. [R-IN-4] 02/11/2020
Rep. Crawford, Eric A. "Rick" [R-AR-1] 02/11/2020
Rep. Costa, Jim [D-CA-16] 02/11/2020
Rep. Buck, Ken [R-CO-4] 02/11/2020
Rep. Joyce, David P. [R-OH-14] 02/12/2020
Rep. Williams, Roger [R-TX-25] 02/12/2020
Rep. Gallego, Ruben [D-AZ-7] 02/12/2020
Rep. Waltz, Michael [R-FL-6] 02/12/2020
Rep. Allen, Rick W. [R-GA-12] 02/18/2020
Rep. Stanton, Greg [D-AZ-9] 02/18/2020
Rep. Turner, Michael R. [R-OH-10] 02/18/2020
Rep. Smith, Jason [R-MO-8] 02/18/2020
Rep. Harris, Andy [R-MD-1] 02/18/2020
Rep. Kelly, Trent [R-MS-1] 02/18/2020
Rep. Murphy, Gregory [R-NC-3] 02/18/2020
Rep. Bishop, Dan [R-NC-9] 02/25/2020
Rep. Womack, Steve [R-AR-3] 02/25/2020
Rep. Brady, Kevin [R-TX-8] 02/26/2020
Rep. Timmons, William R. IV [R-SC-4] 02/26/2020
Rep. Pence, Greg [R-IN-6] 02/26/2020
Rep. Joyce, John [R-PA-13] 02/26/2020
Rep. Sanchez, Linda T. [D-CA-38] 02/26/2020
Rep. Posey, Bill [R-FL-8] 02/26/2020
Rep. Lucas, Frank D. [R-OK-3] 02/26/2020
Rep. Upton, Fred [R-MI-6] 02/26/2020
Rep. Garcia, Sylvia R. [D-TX-29] 02/26/2020
Rep. Armstrong, Kelly [R-ND-At Large] 02/28/2020
Rep. Katko, John [R-NY-24] 02/28/2020
Rep. Fletcher, Lizzie [D-TX-7] 02/28/2020
Rep. Axne, Cynthia [D-IA-3] 02/28/2020
Rep. Rose, John W. [R-TN-6] 02/28/2020
Rep. Veasey, Marc A. [D-TX-33] 02/28/2020
Rep. Smucker, Lloyd [R-PA-11] 03/04/2020
Rep. Guest, Michael [R-MS-3] 03/04/2020
Rep. Keller, Fred [R-PA-12] 03/04/2020
Rep. Rice, Tom [R-SC-7] 03/04/2020
Rep. Meuser, Daniel [R-PA-9] 03/04/2020
Rep. Steil, Bryan [R-WI-1] 03/04/2020
Rep. Thompson, Glenn [R-PA-15] 03/09/2020
Rep. Rutherford, John H. [R-FL-4] 03/09/2020
Rep. Newhouse, Dan [R-WA-4] 03/09/2020
Rep. Rose, Max [D-NY-11] 03/09/2020
Rep. Kelly, Mike [R-PA-16] 03/09/2020
Rep. Emmer, Tom [R-MN-6] 03/09/2020
Rep. Kustoff, David [R-TN-8] 03/09/2020
Rep. Gonzalez-Colon, Jenniffer [R-PR-At Large] 03/09/2020
Rep. Byrne, Bradley [R-AL-1] 03/11/2020
Rep. Simpson, Michael K. [R-ID-2] 03/11/2020
Rep. Rouda, Harley [D-CA-48] 03/11/2020
Rep. Napolitano, Grace F. [D-CA-32] 03/11/2020
Rep. Green, Al [D-TX-9] 03/11/2020
Rep. Cox, TJ [D-CA-21] 03/11/2020
Rep. Rice, Kathleen M. [D-NY-4] 04/03/2020
Rep. Banks, Jim [R-IN-3] 04/03/2020
Rep. Arrington, Jodey C. [R-TX-19] 04/03/2020
Rep. Duncan, Jeff [R-SC-3] 04/03/2020
Rep. Mullin, Markwayne [R-OK-2] 04/03/2020
Rep. Aguilar, Pete [D-CA-31] 04/03/2020
Rep. Rogers, Harold [R-KY-5] 04/03/2020
Rep. Johnson, Mike [R-LA-4] 04/17/2020
Rep. Gibbs, Bob [R-OH-7] 04/17/2020
Rep. Larson, John B. [D-CT-1] 04/17/2020
Rep. Roy, Chip [R-TX-21] 04/22/2020
Rep. Beatty, Joyce [D-OH-3] 04/28/2020
Rep. DeLauro, Rosa L. [D-CT-3] 04/28/2020
Rep. Cloud, Michael [R-TX-27] 04/28/2020
Rep. LaHood, Darin [R-IL-18] 05/01/2020
Rep. Courtney, Joe [D-CT-2] 05/08/2020
Rep. Gonzalez, Anthony [R-OH-16] 05/12/2020
Rep. Palazzo, Steven M. [R-MS-4] 05/12/2020
Rep. Spano, Ross [R-FL-15] 05/12/2020
Rep. Barragan, Nanette Diaz [D-CA-44] 05/22/2020
Rep. Guthrie, Brett [R-KY-2] 05/27/2020
Rep. Granger, Kay [R-TX-12] 06/15/2020
Rep. Murphy, Stephanie N. [D-FL-7] 06/25/2020

Toplowtech
Aug 31, 2004

That's 53 democrats (23% of the congress democrats) and 168 republicans (85%). That's also 3 votes over the majority in co-sponsors alone.

Toplowtech has issued a correction as of 18:01 on Jul 19, 2020

Comrade Koba
Jul 2, 2007

lmao, i’m sure the people of Iran will greet an MEK “interim” government as liberators, surely they must have forgotten all about them siding with loving saddam

Zedhe Khoja
Nov 10, 2017

sürgünden selamlar
yıkıcılar ulusuna
Not just siding with Saddam, they were the fingers pulling the trigger on a decent amount of the chemical weapons attacks. They used to have a tiny, fringe amount of support in Iran. It's literally 0 people these days. Absolutely everyone hates those pieces of poo poo.

Boatswain
May 29, 2012

THS posted:

latest radio war nerd has Patrick Cockburn as a guest and they spend a good amount of time on this. he has some relevant articles on The Independent but they all look paywalled

I'm just waiting for the next brief he files with the LRB.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
https://twitter.com/moody_blues99/status/1284234346812133379

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!
I’m pretty sure MEK at this point is just gritting

PERPETUAL IDIOT
Sep 12, 2003

paul_soccer12
Jan 5, 2020

by Fluffdaddy

Lol

paul_soccer12
Jan 5, 2020

by Fluffdaddy
moody_blues99

gh0stpinballa
Mar 5, 2019

did i just see someone saying srebrenica is in kosovo while trying to demonstrate their superior grasp of geopolitics

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
https://twitter.com/Conflicts/status/1285250308654993408?s=19

Lightning Knight
Feb 24, 2012

Pray for Answer

is this bad? it doesn’t sound good

Ardennes
May 12, 2002

Lightning Knight posted:

is this bad? it doesn’t sound good

It means Egyptian and Turkish forces may see open combat.

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.

Ardennes posted:

It means Egyptian and Turkish forces may see open combat.

LOL The egyptian army is a sack of poo poo that can only shoot and kill egyptian civilians, this is all bluster.

Dreylad
Jun 19, 2001

uninterrupted posted:

hey just checking, the warlord tearing rear end through libya is still a us citizen who spent multiple decades living in langley right?

did he get a glowing profile in the new yorker or time magazine before doing all the war crimes?

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat

Al-Saqr posted:

LOL The egyptian army is a sack of poo poo that can only shoot and kill egyptian civilians, this is all bluster.

Isn't the Turkish force in Libya just a bunch of miliiamen shipped over from Syria

uninterrupted
Jun 20, 2011

Dreylad posted:

did he get a glowing profile in the new yorker or time magazine before doing all the war crimes?

i may end up getting bored and looking up if he was in a local paper or something. khalifa hifter used a few spellings of his name, apparently no one knows how he supported himself but he managed to buy and then sell a 5 bedroom near a country club for around half a mil

Smirking_Serpent
Aug 27, 2009

Dreylad posted:

did he get a glowing profile in the new yorker or time magazine before doing all the war crimes?

ymmv if it's glowing but here you go:

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2015/02/23/unravelling

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy

Al-Saqr posted:

LOL The egyptian army is a sack of poo poo that can only shoot and kill egyptian civilians, this is all bluster.
yeah i'm on the "meh" side of this as well. sisi and haftar have puffed-up generalissimo syndrome

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7C-aB09i30E

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.

steinrokkan posted:

Isn't the Turkish force in Libya just a bunch of miliiamen shipped over from Syria

not just that, the Tursks have now established troops, Drone Bases, Forward operating airfields, and they're heavily suppliying the GNA with guns, armored vehicles, etc.

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy

steinrokkan posted:

Isn't the Turkish force in Libya just a bunch of miliiamen shipped over from Syria
a few thousand of them and some drone operators. maps of territories under haftar's control looked impressive until you realize that most of it was empty desert while the turkish drones were barbecuing all that fancy UAE-supplied equipment on the roads

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
https://twitter.com/RYP__/status/1281626360402677763

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
the LNA makes cool videos though... of easy pickings

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RhZBOeyuh4

Boatswain
May 29, 2012
Any good books on the Six-Day and Yom Kippur wars? I'm interested in the military as well as geo/political facets.

sum
Nov 15, 2010

:siren: Egyptians are confirmed to be in possession of the remove kebab meme :siren:
https://twitter.com/sherifsabrii/status/1285252509146198016

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Truga
May 4, 2014
Lipstick Apathy

Gaupo Guacho posted:

yeah the srbrenica massacre was a fake CIA op too

it extremely obviously wasn't a CIA op, because it wasn't used as an excuse to bomb the poo poo out of civilians, dumbass

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