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Constantly LARPing posted:What I mean by economic determinism is the idea that history MUST progress through certain economic conditions. So therefore slavery MUST end, or you MUST have a bourgeoise revolution before a socialist one. Marx himself started to question that before his death as he thought about Russia, and 1917 would prove that line of thought correct. Oh yeah, it's kind of tough to see what the determinists can hang their hat on anymore besides his early work. If 1917 didn't prove that it's a whole lot more complicated than that then Mao certainly did
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Constantly LARPing posted:What I mean by economic determinism is the idea that history MUST progress through certain economic conditions. So therefore slavery MUST end, or you MUST have a bourgeoise revolution before a socialist one. Marx himself started to question that before his death as he thought about Russia, and 1917 would prove that line of thought correct. marx just didnt have the mathematics necessary for true psychohistory
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Rutibex posted:marx just didnt have the mathematics necessary for true psychohistory I love that I was beaten to a Seldon joke.
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splifyphus posted:
the dissolution of the ussr happened because state enterprise managers encroached into their fiefs getting ever larger personal kickbacks and eventually went "wait why don't we just take these for ourselves", the red army old guard tried a failed counter-revolution and we got modern plutocratic russia. the idea that the population of the ussr lived under conditions analogous to chattel slavery is anachronic, socialist state companies doled out wages much the same as private enterprise with the difference in the directors board being under political control, acquiescence was bought not with promises of freedom through capital accumulation but through promises of material safety for all, protection from evil capitalists and eventually real freedom when the world revolution was completed or whatever
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bagual posted:the dissolution of the ussr happened because state enterprise managers encroached into their fiefs getting ever larger personal kickbacks and eventually went "wait why don't we just take these for ourselves", the red army old guard tried a failed counter-revolution and we got modern plutocratic russia. without a set time or concerted effort to end the fiefdoms it was inevitable that they’d fail given that they were predicated on an imbalance of power that facilitated kickbacks in the first place still better than what we or they have now, certainly
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bagual posted:the dissolution of the ussr happened because state enterprise managers encroached into their fiefs getting ever larger personal kickbacks and eventually went "wait why don't we just take these for ourselves", the red army old guard tried a failed counter-revolution and we got modern plutocratic russia. drat maybe they should have had those positions term limited and elected. maybe some kind of workers council (or 'soviet' if you will) could meet and elect their own managers. guess they just didn't think to give all power to the soviets
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Declan MacManus posted:without a set time or concerted effort to end the fiefdoms it was inevitable that they’d fail given that they were predicated on an imbalance of power that facilitated kickbacks in the first place This is a known factor, but unfortunately with the capitalist west lurking at the border waiting to strike and steal everything not nailed down the USSR was pretty much forced into its shape The only left theory that addresses this problem of omnimalevolent exterior forces without setting up a strong militarized state are the Posadists
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splifyphus posted:the ussr was doomed for similar reasons. they never found a replacement for wage slavery except for the threat of direct violence. they also really didn't try, competing with the west on the west's terms in an absurd race to nowhere was more important, apparently. the result was a working populace with the best benefits in the world on paper being just as alienated from their productive lives as chattel slaves. stupid poo poo
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Epic High Five posted:They're supposed to be the dominant species but the humans who were addled with what should've been the fatal defect of consciousness won in the end because of the cruciform defect that caused the vampires to have a fatal seizure upon seeing a cross. The 2nd book is where it all gets REALLY crazy Echopraxia was muddled redos of blindsight. He should have just rewritten blindsight. Its original ending of humanity willing losing sentience in order to increase Number is much more interesting than the bullshit alien hybrid thing in echo. The "but aliens did it" is so loving boring and dumb. Its like "well actually" ing your own posts. A number of the ideas in it are independently good but the synthesis of them is garbo. spacetoaster posted:Your rapsheet number is too low for me to lend any credence to your posting. "You sir seem incapable of metaphorically making GBS threads yourself with a keyboard and thus I cannot trust you."
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Armadillo Tank posted:"You sir seem incapable of metaphorically making GBS threads yourself with a keyboard and thus I cannot trust you." Exactly what I'd expect from such a weak rapsheet haver.  Anywho, Briggs and Stratton has filed for bankruptsy for any of you lawnmower/gokart lovers.
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in which internet sages rehash John Calhoun's theory of plantation socialism
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spacetoaster posted:Exactly what I'd expect from such a weak rapsheet haver. It's the reregs that throw people off. B&S going down, it's about loving time. Kohler and Honda have been driving that knife in for years.
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animist posted:its too bad we can no longer afford public sewage systems. fortunately, amateur fertilizer futures are Up Up Up Oh no! My lovely investment!
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I can't believe they aren't even going to extend normal unemployment 3 months. These people really have no idea. Didn't they extend them back in 2008? I mean this is going to be way worse.
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Xeom posted:I can't believe they aren't even going to extend normal unemployment 3 months. These people really have no idea. really adds insights into historical events like “let them eat cake” doesn’t it?
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Xeom posted:I can't believe they aren't even going to extend normal unemployment 3 months. These people really have no idea. no wage, only spend Can’t wait for them to act shocked at Christmas when shopping is way down 
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skooma512 posted:no wage, only spend Why even wait for Christmas, what about Black Friday? Or, I guess that could be part of Christmas shopping.
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Xeom posted:I can't believe they aren't even going to extend normal unemployment 3 months. These people really have no idea. Like Matt said in latest video, it's now entirely a bunch of idiot loving cultural war true-beliving GOP dipshits running the show. These are the idiots who genuinely bought in hook-line-and-sinker about giving a poo poo over things like turning over the panama canal because they were told to give a poo poo to own da libs, not the people who made it into a culturalwar thing just to rally the rubes understanding it was worthless. The goldwatery old money GOP would make up poo poo like Laffer Curve and Welfare Queens to justify to the rubes why they're giving more money to rich people even knowing it wasn't a thing. The current GOPpys and dems thinks Laffer Curve, lazy gvmint postal workers, and all these other things like meritocracy is actually 100% real and completely missed the point that this poo poo was just made up on the spot it loving owns, come on burn down america. accelerationism is real and is my friend
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Centrist Committee posted:really adds insights into historical events like “let them eat cake” doesn’t it? #FindSomethingNew
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Centrist Committee posted:really adds insights into historical events like “let them eat cake” doesn’t it? good news: it turns out all property is made of cake, according twitter
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Rime posted:#FindSomethingNew This and the Goya beans thing has made SNL completely obsolete.
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Xaris posted:they really don't i have a good laugh everytime i remember diane fienstein is still alive lmao
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Lostconfused posted:Why even wait for Christmas, what about Black Friday? Or, I guess that could be part of Christmas shopping. Hooooopefully, Trump will be in ADX Florence by then and we won't have to deal with quite so much lying in order to get us to go out and CONSUME.
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my job died of covid in may. anyone know if there will be jobs again?
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Rime posted:#FindSomethingNew This really was the best thing ever. It's a level beyond tone deaf. I struggle to describe it.
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s0j posted:my job died of covid in may. anyone know if there will be jobs again? never. you must slay and eat your rival to absorb their job. it is the way of things now
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s0j posted:my job died of covid in may. anyone know if there will be jobs again? have you tried looking, idiot? here i'll help you : https://findsomethingnew.org/ 
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PIZZA.BAT posted:have you tried looking, idiot? here's something new i found https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOoUVeyaY_8
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i'm on vacation for two weeks can't go anywhere with people because of covid, can't go anywhere without people because it's 100 degrees out maybe i'll try playing video games
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Dustcat posted:i'm on vacation for two weeks
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Xeom posted:This really was the best thing ever. It's a level beyond tone deaf. I struggle to describe it. It's an expression annoyance at the possibility that a fully functioning economy to exploit actually costs money to maintain. Oh you little fuckers, just find something new already.
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Dreylad posted:gently caress. government website talking about slave labour made goods the same way an etsy store will talk about their bespoke hand-made artisanal goods made from only found materials https://www.unicor.gov/publications/services/CATMS361.pdf https://www.unicor.gov/Category.aspx?idCategory=1429 quote:Imagine... All the benefits of domestic outsourcing at offshore prices. It's the best kept secret in outsourcing!
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thank u based unicor
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comedyblissoption posted:some more updates for your journal: I desperately want to believe this was all written by some fiction-level evil person who was cackling the entire time, instead of being written by some downtrodden wage slave who just feels sadness and relief that at least they're not being exploited in the manner the prisoners are.
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pnumoman posted:I desperately want to believe this was all written by some fiction-level evil person who was cackling the entire time, instead of being written by some downtrodden wage slave who just feels sadness and relief that at least they're not being exploited in the manner the prisoners are. 
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comedyblissoption posted:some more updates for your journal: quote:“Absenteeism is the bane of the contact center world. UNICOR has effectively eliminated this issue from the equation. The agent pool is more mature, better educated, and harder working than what one would find in the U.S. domestic market.”
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Lostconfused posted:Why even wait for Christmas, what about Black Friday? Or, I guess that could be part of Christmas shopping. i worked for Walmart for a long time, and basically BF to the week before Xmas are bigly important. iirc our store made as much in those three or four weeks as it did during the entire rest of the year, and i know that Target was similar. BF is so important to the actual sales of the individual stores that we'd start getting poo poo prepped for it on the first day of October. i don't pretend to be smart about this kind of thing, i read this thread to see what people who actually understand things think, but it seems like it's going to be extremely bad for the actual stores themselves. which really is just going to accelerate what they're already doing, eliminating as many higher-paying (and by higher-paying i mean people making $12.50 an hour instead of $10 an hour) positions as possible with automation and just good old fashioned pushing work that managers would do onto the people downstream. it was a joke at the stores i worked at that if the managers gathered all of the employees for a big special meeting about how awesome the store was doing or how some tax-cut had helped one of their dumb metrics it just meant that a bunch of people were going to have their jobs eliminated and forced to either quit and go somewhere else or take a pay-cut back down to what they'd be making if they were just a regular associate and not one of the myriad sub-divisions of management. i dunno, just something that's been on my mind and i needed to  my dumb thoughts about it.
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https://twitter.com/NorthmanTrader/status/1285343954049867781 lol top 5 ultra-mega caps are all the wealth rn just getting pumped up further taking a large market share further taking up large % of passive index funds. sometime here the rug is gunna get pulled out and the very rich are going to make out like bandits leaving the rubes to hold the bag. small cap is still getting obliterated on the down-low but it doesn't change number because its getting pumped into the top  just falling lol normal 
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comedyblissoption posted:some more updates for your journal: lmao loving hell
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