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Sagebrush posted:i mean if you read latin you look at a pteranodon and are like "hmm, ol' Wingy No-Teeth, yep"  And if I'm going to be pedantic Pteranodon is from Greek roots.
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The t in helicopter should be silent helico- spiral -pter wing
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Jul 21, 2020 07:33
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our boat is clearly superior since it also works on land, take that richalures
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     loving murdoch papers
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theflyingexecutive posted:The t in helicopter should be silent Here's "wing" in ancient Greek: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Grc-%CF%80%CF%84%CE%B5%CF%81%CF%8C%CE%BD.ogg As a bonus, here's an incredibly depressed man saying "phthongos". https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a6/Grc-%CF%86%CE%B8%CF%8C%CE%B3%CE%B3%CE%BF%CF%82.ogg
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Knormal posted:Assuming we're playing by ancient Greek rules, both the p and t sounds should get pronounced. It's actually Pteranodon we mispronounce, we should say the p-sound in it. The "silent P" is an English invention to make Greek words fit our vocabulary better. Thank you. Maybe I can get back to sleep now without repeating "HE-lic-o-ter" over and over in my head now.
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Jul 21, 2020 08:16
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HELL•i•co•putt•air
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y'all are dumb helicopter comes from heli-, meaning to fly, and -copter, which is short for "helicopter"
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Hello from 2016 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FkpM4FWa8A
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Knormal posted:Assuming we're playing by ancient Greek rules, both the p and t sounds should get pronounced. It's actually Pteranodon we mispronounce, we should say the p-sound in it. The "silent P" is an English invention to make Greek words fit our vocabulary better. Wait, the ph isn't an f? I clearly hear a p sound in that second clip.
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Carbon dioxide posted:Wait, the ph isn't an f? I clearly hear a p sound in that second clip. Yeah. Ph in Greek is plosive, English turns it into an f sound
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Also those words in Greek and Latin are actually very much translated into things like ‘Big Thick Bone Headed Scaley Dude’ and ‘Long Long Armed Montana Boi’ and I think that’s perfect and beautiful.
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Zetsubou-san posted:our boat is clearly superior since it also works on land, take that richalures Where we're going there won't be land
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Careful with Yes memes- some people can get a bit fragile about them.
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Just Offscreen posted:Careful with Yes memes- some people can get a bit fragile about them. Someone might interpret that as a roundabout insult.
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Carbon dioxide posted:Wait, the ph isn't an f? I clearly hear a p sound in that second clip. Whenever a language uses a sound your brain is not familiar with, your brain tries to find the best fit, in this case [f], which is a labiodental fricative, that is, made with the lower lip and the front upper teeth. The actual ph sound, which as far as I remember is [ɸ], is a bilabial fricative, which is made with both lips but not used in English. The two are similar but not identical, and some languages care about the difference. See also: Slavic languages having way too many variations of s; shibboleth.
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Captain Swing posted:Someone might interpret that as a roundabout insult. Eh, it’s close to the edge of insulting, but not really.
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Just Offscreen posted:Careful with Yes memes- some people can get a bit fragile about them. You can choose from phantom fears, I will choose free will.
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LifeSunDeath posted:You can choose from phantom fears, I will choose free will.
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DarkSoulsTantrum posted:Yeah. Ph in Greek is plosive, English turns it into an f sound Ancient greece had not invented soft sounds, is basically the rule I use. So c and p are always pronounced hard.
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BonHair posted:Whenever a language uses a sound your brain is not familiar with, your brain tries to find the best fit, in this case [f], which is a labiodental fricative, that is, made with the lower lip and the front upper teeth. The actual ph sound, which as far as I remember is [ɸ], is a bilabial fricative, which is made with both lips but not used in English. The two are similar but not identical, and some languages care about the difference. See also: Slavic languages having way too many variations of s; shibboleth. This is also why native speakers of a language find it so humorous when non-natives misfire on a syllable. Your primate brain loves to laugh at social stimuli that are subtly wrong.
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OwlFancier posted:Ancient greece had not invented soft sounds, is basically the rule I use. So c and p are always pronounced hard. "How do you do, Harderihardles?" "Oh, you know, same old same old, Thuhardydides." (Of course, ancient Greek didn't have a C so  )
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"Hard C" and "soft C" as ways to distinguish "k" from "s" is absolutely nonsensical in the first place They are completely unrelated phonemes
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The C thing carries over to latin too. And probably the P, I dunno.
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OwlFancier posted:The C thing carries over to latin too. THERE IS NO C IN GREEK JESUS CHRIST HOW DOES IT CARRY OVER TO ANYTHING?!?!?
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Upsilon mad, bro?
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3D Megadoodoo posted:THERE IS NO C IN GREEK JESUS CHRIST I know, I'm not an idiot. It's spelled with an X
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3D Megadoodoo posted:THERE IS NO C IN GREEK JESUS CHRIST HOW DOES IT CARRY OVER TO ANYTHING?!?!? What about chomega
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LifeSunDeath posted:You can choose a bathysphere, I will choose free will.
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CannonFodder posted:That's how I heard it once and now that's how I always hear it. I had to look up the lyrics to make my first post and I was shocked because in my mind the lyrics were wildly different.
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https://youtu.be/lgXno-PzAW0
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Oh no, not again. BonHair posted:Whenever a language uses a sound your brain is not familiar with, your brain tries to find the best fit, in this case [f], which is a labiodental fricative, that is, made with the lower lip and the front upper teeth. The actual ph sound, which as far as I remember is [ɸ], is a bilabial fricative, which is made with both lips but not used in English. The two are similar but not identical, and some languages care about the difference. See also: Slavic languages having way too many variations of s; shibboleth. Hold on now, somehow I'm strangely interested in this derail all of a sudden. Dammit, brain, you're not 15 those are not what those words mean
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Melaneus posted:Oh no, not again. Quadrolabials were indeed a standing joke in phonetics classes. Obviously, labia is just Latin for lips, used metaphorically for genitals.
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filename.cnk is my favourite file and also tv science presenter
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Why is o with umlaut pronounced exactly like o without umlaut? Shouldn't it be pronounced urrrr like as in hors d'ouvres.
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