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Mr Interweb posted:i decided to read that article because i was legit curious how the left were being "busybodies" who wanted to control what people were doing in their bedrooms. Shockingly enough, there wasn't one single example of such a thing. it was pretty much all bitching about some diversity seminar poo poo going on at some places. it was the usual 'woke people are ruining everything!' screed, but what really pissed me off was towards the end when he complains that this is what the left is focusing on when trump is rounding up people protesters in portland. like, loving seriously dude? who's the one that's whining about cancel culture above trump's gestapo bullshit again? Yeah, not to mention that when on Chapo the one specific example I can remember him pointing to was David Bucci, saying that he was harassed into killing himself over the sexual assault case in Dartmouth. He's basically just regurgitating the NYT framing of the story, which cast the whole thing as a case of #metoo going too far, ignoring that Bucci was department chair and this ongoing sexual harassment had been an open secret for years. The whole article towed the line of, "we're not saying these women killed him, but maybe...?" Matt seems like a pretty lovely journalist if he's just half reading NYT stories and spitting them out as his examples of social justice gone too far. The guy needs a loving editor. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/04/us/dartmouth-lawsuit-bucci.html quote:When a group of graduate students wanted to alert Dartmouth College to sexual misconduct by three professors, David Bucci was the one they turned to. https://www.thedartmouth.com/article/2020/01/over-30-professors-criticize-new-york-times-coverage-of-suicide
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https://twitter.com/mtaibbi/status/1285637391470952448?s=20 I hate jumping onto dogpiles like this, but I'm surprised that Taibbi seems to think that people are mad at the content of the letter rather than the intent of its shittier signers to use it as cover from criticism. He didn't strike me as that gullible before. I suppose letter the letter's author get away with his "I just can't figure out why people hate Bari - probably because she's a woman!" bit on Useful Idiots wasn't him just being polite.
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Epic High Five posted:he's not gullible, he's in his 50's now and is tired of doing the same stories about the same disaster capitalism narratives so he's looking for a sinecure with centrists that have rich backers If he were trying to get in with the libs, he wouldn't still be doing Chapo appearances or a show with Katie Halper. I think he's just vanishing up his own rear end for a while. We'll see if he finds his way out.
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Mr Interweb posted:i decided to read that article because i was legit curious how the left were being "busybodies" who wanted to control what people were doing in their bedrooms. Shockingly enough, there wasn't one single example of such a thing. I will not read the article, but when people claim the left is trying to control what happens in everyone's bedrooms they are inevitably talking about either consent or the age of consent. Perhaps a merciful editor occluded the examples.
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How Darwinian posted:Yeah, not to mention that when on Chapo the one specific example I can remember him pointing to was David Bucci, saying that he was harassed into killing himself over the sexual assault case in Dartmouth. He's basically just regurgitating the NYT framing of the story, which cast the whole thing as a case of #metoo going too far, ignoring that Bucci was department chair and this ongoing sexual harassment had been an open secret for years. The whole article towed the line of, "we're not saying these women killed him, but maybe...?" Matt seems like a pretty lovely journalist if he's just half reading NYT stories and spitting them out as his examples of social justice gone too far. The guy needs a loving editor. sounds like a predator that took the bitch way out
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Weembles posted:https://twitter.com/mtaibbi/status/1285637391470952448?s=20 https://twitter.com/dril/status/549425182767861760
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Weembles posted:https://twitter.com/mtaibbi/status/1285637391470952448?s=20 hey Taintrunner, instead of making GBS threads on the dead, why not poo poo on this living guy who can and will read whatever you have to say it's not to detract from anything you've said about Brooks and Biden (I really need to describe the ills of magical thinking one of these days), but it is a better use of your time
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yeah that gwen snyder account is 100% cop
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Epic High Five posted:he's not gullible, he's in his 50's now and is tired of doing the same stories about the same disaster capitalism narratives so he's looking for a sinecure with centrists that have rich backers I don't think he's dumb enough to think that his career at the eXile and covering the '08 financial collapse would ever get him a sinecure, but I do think he's got a careerist streak that causes him to whipsaw incoherently between muckraking the neoliberal establishment and trying to regain mainstream media respectability. He also needs to get the gently caress off of twitter for a month, lmao. For all his flaws, Ames knows who he is and rolls with it.
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Epic High Five posted:Brooks dying loving sucks, for a million reasons. The outpouring of support was surprising, and hopefully it results in more people who otherwise may never have heard of him getting exposed to his work and that of people he helped break through. Sam is live on Twitch right now and it's friends of Michael calling in. Biden also lies about his life regularly. To this day he says he first wife was killed by a drunk driver, which is just not true (his wife may have even been “at fault” pulling into an intersection without looking. The driver who hit her wasn’t drinking. His family has repeatedly asking Biden to stop slandering him). Pulcinella has issued a correction as of 20:38 on Jul 21, 2020 |
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Goast posted:i did not read the thing, refuse to read the thing, here's what the thing says anyways you're welcome to explain how i'm wrong. what other forms of that criticism am i forgetting?
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He's portrayed his move from Rolling Stone online to substack as his decision, but I doubt it really was that. I see what is going on as a sort of late midlife crisis, where after decades of top notch reporting and great books he is neither a darling of the left nor a established figure in the center. He lost the TARFU report to whining from what he perceives as the left, and lost his gig at rolling stone probably because of pissing off the right, and as a result decided to go all "you all can't handle the truth." Which also explains him sympathizing with Andrew Sullivan also ending up on substack.
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Doc Hawkins posted:you're welcome to explain how i'm wrong. what other forms of that criticism am i forgetting? the point is i didn't read the article either, but my head also isn't stuck up my own rear end enough to form an opinion on something i haven't read
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 i stand by what i saidmeanwhile, where we see mouring, gwen has sensed weakness https://twitter.com/gwensnyderPHL/status/1285596696362258432
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Lol at this dumbass. A cynical person might suspect that she’s just a failed grifter going after people with successful Patreons.
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Opposing the epstein cabal by trying to get trueanon banned
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Gwen is one of those Twitter character types that I've never quite understood. It seems like she just exists to stir poo poo up? Like, not even as a grift, she just wants to fight. Reminds me of that Xeni lady who bragged about squatting with gwar when she was like 13 or smth
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Mr Interweb posted:so according to his sister, he died of a blood clot in his throat. Could have been COVID. The guy was basically a saint. I read this and I was almost in tears at work today. https://twitter.com/AlwaysFlacko/status/1285345480088727553
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Sad Billionaire posted:Gwen is one of those Twitter character types that I've never quite understood. It seems like she just exists to stir poo poo up? Like, not even as a grift, she just wants to fight. Reminds me of that Xeni lady who bragged about squatting with gwar when she was like 13 or smth its either mental illness or being a cop not that those are mutually exclusive
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gwen is one of those people who used Occupy as a springboard for launching her career. therefore she is a cop.
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The evidence is piling up...remember this story when the media banded together to try to smother the campaign when it was starting up again with painting his campaign as having a massive sexual harassment problem? https://twitter.com/SeanMcCarthyCom/status/1285647481527775232
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i counted over a dozen typos and formatting errors in that article that could have been fixed in less than a second automatically with any word processor who the gently caress is editing metro
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Yeah, Brooks' blood clot could have been Covid-related. Sadly a number of people who seem otherwise asymptomatic get horrifying blood clots and organ failures. Can someone explain the Taibbi thing to me? I haven't followed his opinions closely enough to know what the controversy is.
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The Atomic Man-Boy posted:Yeah, Brooks' blood clot could have been Covid-related. Sadly a number of people who seem otherwise asymptomatic get horrifying blood clots and organ failures. He's trying to cash in on the "criticism is censorship" grift
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Goast posted:i counted over a dozen typos and formatting errors in that article that could have been fixed in less than a second automatically with any word processor considering how much local news has been gutted, it's possible no one is editing it
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I think Taibbi is a well meaning person who is currently having an internet meltdown.
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In fact Taibbi is currently announcing on Twitter all the reply people that he is muting. Matt, log off!
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I liked Taibbi. He was actually one of the people that sort of started me down the path of radicalization. I had no idea there was an intellectual option beyond "oppose Republicans." Then I read one of his books and he was all like "so anyways Obama gave the country away to insurance companies" and I don't want to say it opened my eyes but it kinda got the process started. It's a shame he's being a dumbass online right now.
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Subvisual Haze posted:I think Taibbi is a well meaning person who is currently having an internet meltdown. yeah i agree with this take - dude has seen a lot of consequences for stepping out of some orthodoxy or other and seems genuinely worried that the rising radical left, rather than representing a liberation from that, is going to replace it with its own moral orthodoxy. pragmatically, this is probably just the shared dogma of a movement and will emerge almost no matter what, but i don't think he sees it that way - he's too used to seeing himself as chasing some old ideal of journalism and defending and rationalising what he's doing on the basis of that ideal, without realising that it's a fantasy this is my read, at any rate
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