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Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin


"yeah we can drive on the salt flats at Bonneville, why?"

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monsterzero
May 12, 2002
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MrOnBicycle posted:



Feast your eyes. You are welcome. VW based... in Sweden...

My old plan if I ever had to GTFO America was to move somewhere and open Yankee Cowboy's Burger Barn. I'd dress like Diedrich Bader in Napoleon Dynamite and drive that car. Less sure of that now that we're going fash. (the symbolism, not expat burgers)

Memento posted:



"yeah we can drive on the salt flats at Bonneville, why?"

Drive yes. Stop? Not so much.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

Memento posted:



"yeah we can drive on the salt flats at Bonneville, why?"

Salt flats scare me after watching this video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUSpD_waiEQ

That mud is unreal.

Elviscat
Jan 1, 2008

Well don't you know I'm caught in a trap?

monsterzero posted:

My old plan if I ever had to GTFO America was to move somewhere and open Yankee Cowboy's Burger Barn. I'd dress like Diedrich Bader in Napoleon Dynamite and drive that car. Less sure of that now that we're going fash. (the symbolism, not expat burgers)

Solid plan

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin

xzzy posted:

Salt flats scare me after watching this video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUSpD_waiEQ

That mud is unreal.

This is how you get around on a salt flat

https://i.imgur.com/XRi69XQ.mp4

That thing weighs a little bit under a hundred thousand pounds, you can see the momentum it has when the left hand track stops moving and starts skidding.

Some places would even bog those things though.



This is an old shoreline in the salt lake that either you hit as hard as you can and plow through it, or you get caught in three feet of sticky, oily black mud. I went out to rescue these two after they got their Teryx bogged.

https://i.imgur.com/2kwYsPL.mp4

This was my rescue vehicle, 8*8 tracked Argo. It's as uncomfortable as it looks.



And this is what the Teryx looked like before they washed it, after sitting in the sun on the back of a trailer for half an hour.

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

Memento posted:

This was my rescue vehicle, 8*8 tracked Argo. It's as uncomfortable as it looks.



gently caress yes. You need start providing a lot more information here right now buddy. It's your own fault.

Snowy
Oct 6, 2010

A man whose blood
Is very snow-broth;
One who never feels
The wanton stings and
Motions of the sense



monsterzero posted:

My old plan if I ever had to GTFO America was to move somewhere and open Yankee Cowboy's Burger Barn. I'd dress like Diedrich Bader in Napoleon Dynamite and drive that car. Less sure of that now that we're going fash. (the symbolism, not expat burgers)

I wanted to move to Sweden and open a real dumpy dive bar that only had bud tallboys and shots of jack.

Even their rock and metal themed bars are so clean and nice it’s weird.

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin

Motronic posted:

gently caress yes. You need start providing a lot more information here right now buddy. It's your own fault.

Top speed about 25km/h, no seatbelts because we literally only take them on the flattest of the flat salt lakes, and we throw them out after 18 months because the salt fucks them in ways they're not designed for. They sometimes throw chains, they sometimes throw tracks, they often overheat. They are much less fun than they look.

When I'm out on the lake with the drillers, I try to take the Teryx because it's got comfortable seats and a canopy, so you can sit somewhere nice and eat your lunch or log rock chips in the shade. The Teryx will also do 60km/h on the lake. There's places the Teryx won't go that the Argo will, though, and if we're in one of those places we bring the Argo.

There's also places that it looks like the Teryx will go fine, and they do, until you drive into an old sump that hasn't been marked off properly.



This one was me. Those tires sticking out in the background are marking off an old sump, so I thought I'd drive near it, get a GPS reading for it to add it to my GIS map for future exploration, and I drove right into an unmarked one. There's about 15cm of water here, which is enough that you go slow but not enough to stop you, and the water moves around the lake over very hard salt. The Teryx only weighs around 700kg, and has super-wide tires, so it will drive over hard salt crust all day every day, until you hit something like that. While I was waiting for one of the other geologists to come out and fish me out with the Argo, I staked out the dimensions of what I had driven into, and it was a perfectly rectangular ditch, 4m by 10m that I had neatly managed to drive into the end of.

There's a solid hierarchy of what you can use to fish things out with on the lake. The Teryx can be fished out by an Argo. If you get the Argo bogged, you need to call the drillers to come out with their Hagglund.



Swedish amphibious vehicle, based off the Bandvagn 206. They're incredibly uncomfortable (I'm sure you're seeing a pattern here), top speed around 40km/h, heaps of room on the back for a water tank and to load up samples. If you get the Hagglund bogged, you might get lucky pulling it with another Hagglund, or you can use one of the drill rigs I showed in the little video above.



Inside of the Hagglund. Not a fun place to be. These are all my photos and videos, by the way.

The previous exploration company that was on what is now our land had different, cheaper and above all much worse ideas on how to get around the salt lake.



Holden Drover, which was based on the Suzuki Jimny, with welded-on aluminium hubs and drag racing tires. When I took that photo, it had been there for 18 months, and that was a year ago and it's still there. The previous company is responsible for cleaning up that (and the green bags in the background, which that area is covered in) and we told them we'll do it, but we'll also charge them $120/hour for the privilege.




I think I figured out the problem, lads.

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

what happens if the drill rig gets stuck

Finger Prince
Jan 5, 2007


Sagebrush posted:

what happens if the drill rig gets stuck

Just leave it there for the archaeologists to chisel out.

Code Jockey
Jan 24, 2006

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Memento posted:


I think I figured out the problem, lads.

That was a great post, thank you! If I ever want to film a Mad Max fan film, I'll PM you.

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin

Sagebrush posted:

what happens if the drill rig gets stuck

Two options. One, you try to haul it out with another rig, or two rigs working in parallel. The second is what they did at another mine on another salt lake in Western Australia - park it until a couple of months into the dry season and dig it out of the then-solid mud. It ended up only being there from September to December, and it needed some repairs when they finally got it out, but they figured that trying to get it out with something else was just going to end up with the something else bogged.

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

Memento posted:

....All amazing stuff.....

Thank you for effortpost, that was awesome.

I was assuming Bonneville but all the metrique tells me its not. Maybe I missed i but where are we talking about?

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin
Western Australia, gold exploration at a large mine situated on an ephemeral salt lake. Ephemeral is probably not quite the right word, it never fills up but there's always a small amount of water on it that gets pushed around by the winds. When you drill it, there's anywhere between 2 and 25 meters of thick, terracotta-coloured lake clay that represents the depth of it before its upstream source was diverted or otherwise dried up.

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

Memento posted:

Western Australia, gold exploration at a large mine situated on an ephemeral salt lake. Ephemeral is probably not quite the right word, it never fills up but there's always a small amount of water on it that gets pushed around by the winds. When you drill it, there's anywhere between 2 and 25 meters of thick, terracotta-coloured lake clay that represents the depth of it before its upstream source was diverted or otherwise dried up.

That sounds like a properly miserable place to work on.

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin

Motronic posted:

That sounds like a properly miserable place to work on.

There's a hell of a lot of challenges. On February 29th this year, it was 49°C with winds gusting to 60km/h. Some mornings in July and August last year, it was 1-2°. The salt gets into and destroys everything. Driving the Teryx through the low standing water, you have to get out and flush out the radiator every few km otherwise the salt fills it up, dries on the hot grill, and you overheat.

This is the Teryx engine compartment after one day on the lake, before I blasted it down with the steam cleaner.



This is a pretty good one to show the surface of the lake, up close you've got damp, pretty hard packed mud with an intermittent crust of salt, middle distance you've got a solid salt crust that you need a hammer to smash up so you can drive stakes into it for drillhole locations, and in the distance you can see that surface with water over the top. Click for big.



This is one of the little things that makes life a bit nicer though. This is from the top of the deck on a different drill rig, looking at the exhaust manifold. You wrap a frozen pie in aluminium foil and stick it under there, and in an hour or so you get a nice hot snack.



I'm not the best photographer around, but this is a panorama I took last June as some storms were rolling in. The rig had broken down so I decided to use what time I had to go and stake out the next set of holes before the lightning started. The work is pretty hard, but the pay is good, and we make sure you're only out on the rigs no more than two swings in a row (two sets of 8 days with a 6 day break in the middle).



The view can be pretty decent.

MomJeans420
Mar 19, 2007



That engine compartment after one day photo is nuts. I thought drill rigs in Bakersfield had it bad just from the temperature, but your area is 10x worse.

https://twitter.com/thejackbeyer/status/1285354729573249024?s=20

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

MomJeans420 posted:

That engine compartment after one day photo is nuts. I thought drill rigs in Bakersfield had it bad just from the temperature, but your area is 10x worse.

https://twitter.com/thejackbeyer/status/1285354729573249024?s=20

oh, that's the new hannah montana girl whose makeup line got recalled because it contained asbestos.

(yes, this is the world you live in)

CAT INTERCEPTOR
Nov 9, 2004

Basically a male Margaret Thatcher

Sagebrush posted:

oh, that's the new hannah montana girl whose makeup line got recalled because it contained asbestos.

(yes, this is the world you live in)

I am glad I'm a shutin car nerd and I was not aware of any of this.

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



Sagebrush posted:

oh, that's the new hannah montana girl whose makeup line got recalled because it contained asbestos.

(yes, this is the world you live in)

Okay well now I’m not worried about not recognizing the face.

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

Sagebrush posted:

oh, that's the new hannah montana girl whose makeup line got recalled because it contained asbestos.

(yes, this is the world you live in)

Still probably safer than a Tesla.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Memento posted:


Awesome poo poo


You're Aussie too right? That looks like a loving blast of a job! Apart from the 49degrees bit. But hte money and hooning around in fun uncomfortable vehicles is my jam so sign me up!

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin

Humphreys posted:

You're Aussie too right? That looks like a loving blast of a job! Apart from the 49degrees bit. But hte money and hooning around in fun uncomfortable vehicles is my jam so sign me up!

Yep, stuck in Melbourne right now with the 'rona but I'll be back out once the restrictions are down. Fingers crossed for a vaccine to be honest.

You're in oil & gas, right? I've always wanted to spend a season or two on an offshore rig, just for the experience of it. I did the helicopter water escape training many many years ago in the Reserves, that was pretty crazy.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Memento posted:

Yep, stuck in Melbourne right now with the 'rona but I'll be back out once the restrictions are down. Fingers crossed for a vaccine to be honest.

You're in oil & gas, right? I've always wanted to spend a season or two on an offshore rig, just for the experience of it. I did the helicopter water escape training many many years ago in the Reserves, that was pretty crazy.

I'm Gas and Power, up in COVID resistant QLD :P. I used to be in Coal/Oil with a touch of Uranium. Lol that tip over training was fun (A-Tech Army) similarily many many years (18) ago.

Been itchy lately for a shitkicker FIFO job again where I don't have to worry about anything other than my flight home. Worlds different now though. Luck to have the job I have considering we did a new ownership rotation and I've had some interesting history with the now owner and her brother years ago.

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

Memento posted:

This is one of the little things that makes life a bit nicer though. This is from the top of the deck on a different drill rig, looking at the exhaust manifold. You wrap a frozen pie in aluminium foil and stick it under there, and in an hour or so you get a nice hot snack.

Might need to do some adaptation on time and location but: https://nuxx.net/pdf/ManifoldM.pdf

MrYenko
Jun 18, 2012

#2 isn't ALWAYS bad...

Code Jockey
Jan 24, 2006

69420 basic bytes free

haha that's coowait what in the gently caress

AirRaid
Dec 21, 2004

Nose Manual + Super Sonic Spin Attack
Someone saw a mini clubman with the barn doors on the back and thought they could improve on it.

Code Jockey
Jan 24, 2006

69420 basic bytes free
So I'm thinking it's built on a heavy duty, long truck frame to support all that weight without the wheels in the middle

right

... right?


oh god and if it is one solid structure, imagining that turning

Saukkis
May 16, 2003

Unless I'm on the inside curve pointing straight at oncoming traffic the high beams stay on and I laugh at your puny protest flashes.
I am Most Important Man. Most Important Man in the World.

Memento posted:

Swedish amphibious vehicle, based off the Bandvagn 206. They're incredibly uncomfortable (I'm sure you're seeing a pattern here), top speed around 40km/h, heaps of room on the back for a water tank and to load up samples. If you get the Hagglund bogged, you might get lucky pulling it with another Hagglund, or you can use one of the drill rigs I showed in the little video above.

I was surprised by this comment, I found them pretty nice way to get around in the finnish army. Of course all may be relative, they're pretty nice compared to 30 guys sitting as a train at the back of truck.

cursedshitbox
May 20, 2012

Your rear-end wont survive my hammering.



Fun Shoe

gently caress.

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

Tag yourself. I'm the window shaker AC sitting in the window of the barn.

Guinness
Sep 15, 2004

I'm the woefully undersized air deflector

stone soup
Jul 8, 2004
im van-colored crawl-through going from the van's hatch to the shed

Applebees Appetizer
Jan 23, 2006

I'm the lovely V6 trying to pull around that monstrosity

Previa_fun
Nov 10, 2004

Applebees Appetizer posted:

I'm the lovely V6 trying to pull around that monstrosity

I'm the 41TE transmission

Dr.Smasher
Nov 27, 2002

Cyberpunk 1987
I'm the transmission that'll grenade from all the extra weight it has to try and pull

KYOON GRIFFEY JR
Apr 12, 2010



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I’m the front little protrusion that i think could possibly be a reverse wheelie bar - stoppie bar?

Lake of Methane
Oct 29, 2011

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