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Don't be silly rules don't apply to tories. E: 306 years ago in July 1714 the UK Parliament announced a prize of £10k to the first person (lol who am I kidding, the first man, it was 1714) who could develop a eans of determining longitude for ships at sea, increasing to larges amounts for more accurate determinations. thespaceinvader fucked around with this message at 09:54 on Jul 22, 2020 |
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thespaceinvader posted:Don't be silly rules don't apply to tories. As we've seen with Cummings and Gove, when the rules conflict with what the Tories do it's because the rules are a bit wrong, and need to be tweaked. 
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Jul 22, 2020 09:53
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They didn't used to bother having to change the rules because people just didn't find out.
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Jul 22, 2020 09:55
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thespaceinvader posted:Don't be silly rules don't apply to tories. Rosie Duffield claims to be a labour MP.
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Jul 22, 2020 09:58
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Labour went from a party that might decriminalise weed to a party that's trying to criminalise whippits and that's just great. This is what they wrecked the party for four years to get back to.
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Jul 22, 2020 09:58
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OwlFancier posted:Rosie Duffield claims to be a labour MP. I said what I said.
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Jul 22, 2020 09:59
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Broke a near century Tory winning streak on the back of an openly socialist campaign just to get that shite in as an MP. Jeremy Corbyn you were far too good a man to run the Labour party, let alone Britain.
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Jul 22, 2020 10:04
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Gonzo McFee posted:Labour went from a party that might decriminalise weed to a party that's trying to criminalise whippits and that's just great. Looking forward to Labour getting back to their late 00s roots as a party of banning chemistry sets and the subversive works of Thomas Beddoes.
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Jul 22, 2020 10:07
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Ratjaculation posted:My only problem with this is that it the canisters are littered everywhere, and its gotten notably worse At least I now know what those funny little metal cylinders I have been seeing all over the local fields lately are. It's only the last 12 months I've seen them about in quantity. Where do they buy this stuff? And cig butts are a particular beef of mine. When I was working as a pub cleaner for a short while, we had little ash buckets on the outside tables, a couple of big bins, a wall-mounted 'stubber outer' with holes for dead cigs and yet - all over the flower beds, all over the paving, and I had to pick them up out of the beds, or from between paving stones where the broom wouldn't get. Why don't smokers recognize cig butts as the filthy litter that it is? OwlFancier posted:Rosie Duffield claims to be a labour MP. I also didn't know til yesterday that she had actively rubbished the labour party and all those people who had campaigned long and hard and contributed £££ to get her back in again, the night before GE19 on national tv. Jaeluni Asjil fucked around with this message at 10:11 on Jul 22, 2020 |
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Jul 22, 2020 10:08
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"Not my problem" Or just more generally I find a lot of smokers are very antisocial people generally, especially as regards their smoking.
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Jul 22, 2020 10:11
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Guavanaut posted:Half of the complaints are just about canisters littering everywhere, which could be avoided if it didn't have to be sold as *nudge nudge wink wink* whipped cream propellant and they could just sell larger canisters with gas/air regulators for personal use. Oh that’s such obvious bullshit. Stop making excuses for people littering. There’s nothing about these being sold in small canisters that means it’s somehow difficult to put those and the balloons into bins. People dropping them in the street are as bad as people dropping cigarette ends, crisp packets, coke cans, etc. 100% on their lack of personal responsibility not the law.
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Jul 22, 2020 10:11
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Rustybear posted:it's really weird to see a thread full of lefties demand that the secret police vet political candidates and campaigns more. i much preferred when the left was agitating to abolish MI5 not give them more funding Even if you don't like nationalism, you still have to pay attention to other countries' nationalism, especially if you've got an oligarch problem (meaning your country is up for sale) they're better at harnessing their oligarchs towards nationalist goals than you are (meaning they're interested in buying).
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:And cig butts are a particular beef of mine. When I was working as a pub cleaner for a short while, we had little ash buckets on the outside tables, a couple of big bins, a wall-mounted 'stubber outer' with holes for dead cigs and yet - all over the flower beds, all over the paving, and I had to pick them up out of the beds, or from between paving stones where the broom wouldn't get. Why don't smokers recognize cig butts as the filthy litter that it is? I used to work in a pub where people used to throw their cig butts in half-empty pints of beer. It smells so god drat horrible when you clean that up, I hated it so much.
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i do agree that people who litter should be melted Indiana Jones style
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Jul 22, 2020 10:14
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Cerv posted:Oh that’s such obvious bullshit. Stop making excuses for people littering. You can change things that are a matter of personal responsibility with social policy, and the fact that there is a current littering problem indicates that we should probably do so.
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Jul 22, 2020 10:17
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Cerv posted:Oh that’s such obvious bullshit. Stop making excuses for people littering. I think perhaps the argument is that yelling "personal responsibility!" at people clearly doesn't stop them littering so you need systemic solutions.
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Yeah I don't understand the mental process that whipit users treat the canisters as something different from trash. No problem with people using it, but it seems p. wasteful and they're a right nuisance if you're on a bicycle
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Jul 22, 2020 10:19
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https://twitter.com/RosieDuffield1/status/1285719374918234112?s=19 Classy.
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Jul 22, 2020 10:19
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Bobby Deluxe posted:You can literally find videos on youtube playing clips of them. They're tapes Heard made. Thanks, the impression I got from comments in this thread was that there were reports of the tapes existing but they weren't out there so I didn't go looking. Given they are easily available in the public domain, I come back to my question of why his plan isn't just to play them looped over and over.
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wish i was paid £82,000 a year to get into twitter spats
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Darth Walrus posted:Even if you don't like nationalism, you still have to pay attention to other countries' nationalism, especially if you've got an oligarch problem (meaning your country is up for sale) they're better at harnessing their oligarchs towards nationalist goals than you are (meaning they're interested in buying). Well I agree, insofar as I'd like to look at how we can limit Russian oligarchs, Gulf state oligarchs, American oligarchs and British oligarchs buying policy. I'm just really wary of a panic being whipped up around one particular set of bad oligarchs which happens to mysteriously coincide with some other strategic aims that i definitely don't support. Likewise an ill-defined broadening of the security services mandate to covertly intercede in british politics is not positive; however noble your starting intentions are, The Institute for Statecraft is the reality.
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Lol she doesn't give a poo poo. She'll spend the next four years pushing dumb neich policies like this, lose her seat and be sorted for the rest of her life working on the boards of the people who bribed her.
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Ratjaculation posted:wish i was paid £82,000 a year to get into twitter spats Run for parliament then.
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Jul 22, 2020 10:37
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I'd say this has graduated from a Twitter spat to a Twitter meltdown.
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thespaceinvader posted:Run for parliament then. im not a sexual predator so dont qualify
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Just reading some of the shite on twitter - I am so glad I'm not in the Labour Party anymore. £200k 'damages' to the very people who actively sought to damage the LP. £200k = 3800 full-rate membership subs for an entire year. That is not what LP should be doing with members' money. And that Rosie Duffield 'smiley face' - she's appalling! I wonder if The Forensic One will say anything about NHS at PMQs?
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Love how the guardian puts a picture of Corbyn beside every anti-semitism headline.
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When I walk through the small park to get to my Mum's house there are canisters scattered around the benches where the people sit and do them, next to which are bins. The bottles of alcopops and tins of energy drinks also fail to get to the bins three feet away from them.
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sinky posted:Love how the guardian puts a picture of Corbyn beside every anti-semitism headline. Who else would you put there there aren't any more antisemitic people in labour than corbyn. ~the Guardian.
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Dead Goon posted:When I walk through the small park to get to my Mum's house there are canisters scattered around the benches where the people sit and do them, next to which are bins. The bottles of alcopops and tins of energy drinks also fail to get to the bins three feet away from them. Bastards, just dirty bastards  The wombles much like Corbyn were far too soft crispix fucked around with this message at 10:59 on Jul 22, 2020 |
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StarkingBarfish posted:Yeah I don't understand the mental process that whipit users treat the canisters as something different from trash. No problem with people using it, but it seems p. wasteful and they're a right nuisance if you're on a bicycle A good comparison would be alcohol. Suppose you have a society with an alcohol problem. You can make and sell a litre of lovely brandy for about a fiver (source:  ), and cheap spirituous liquors contribute to problem drinking. Now suppose instead of instituting a spirit duty or minimum alcohol pricing you just got rid of spirits. But there's some non-intoxicant uses of spirits, so you allow the sale of 50ml minis for 'Christmas puddings'. So now you have newsagents selling packs of 10 minis for a fiver, for Christmas pudding use only, because there's still no duty pricing. What happens? You get shop doorways full of mini bottles. This is something that happens in real life whenever there's a locale with a loophole that allows minis to be duty exempt 'for culinary use' or some poo poo like that, because people who are drunk often don't fancy binning dozens of little bottles, especially if they're street drinking. The counterexample to that is places with sensible duty and bottle deposits, where litter is minimized, and it turns out that even street drinkers would rather buy a fifth and get their deposit back than a dozen lovely little bottles when there aren't loopholes.
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Lungboy posted:Thanks, the impression I got from comments in this thread was that there were reports of the tapes existing but they weren't out there so I didn't go looking. Given they are easily available in the public domain, I come back to my question of why his plan isn't just to play them looped over and over. It would be a much longer post to explain in full but I'll give a brief breakdown. Johnny Depp is suing the Su for Defamation. To do so he needs to establish certain elements (that the material was defamatory. That the Sun published this material. These are the easy enough ones to prove and aren't going to be contentious, but his team still have to prove them.) The harder part is proving that they aren't true. And for that they have to hammer it home. Not just that Johnny didn't assault Amber, but that he's not a Wife Beater at all. Now you could just argue he never beat his wife (Amber) and he was only married to one woman (Amber) ergo it can't be true. But if the court took "wife beater" as being a generic term for a domestic abuser, you do have to go to a wider range and put forward that Johnny is not now nor ever has been abusive to domestice partners. And that's going to be a wider fight that the Sun is hoping it can tough out by finding some mud on Johnny and using that as a justification for it's headline to save itself.
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Dead Goon posted:When I walk through the small park to get to my Mum's house there are canisters scattered around the benches where the people sit and do them, next to which are bins. The bottles of alcopops and tins of energy drinks also fail to get to the bins three feet away from them. The people in the housing estate next to our house have often thrown their rubbish (from empty bottles of booze to empty Whippet canisters to full on wooden pallets) over the wall separating it into our field. Of course since there is multiple houses we can't prove where the rubbish came from and can't do much about it. In addition kids are hoping over the wall in different spots and have been breaking the crops and trees while doing so. Again limited stuff we can do, as we can't prove who is doing it. (That being said we are looking at getting a drone so we can use it on our land to record footage when we spot said kids trespassing. ) In short, people are surprisingly blase about having litter as someone else's problem. You only have to watch dog owners walk their dogs and see how many actually pick up their dog's poo and how many just don't. (Or the ones who do bag it, but leave the bags on the ground.)
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There's been huge campaigns on local FB to stop people littering in fields where livestock graze too. It's been killing livestock, and it sucks  It#s so indicative of how little people care for their environment because they've been taught not to.
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The Question IRL posted:The people in the housing estate next to our house have often thrown their rubbish (from empty bottles of booze to empty Whippet canisters to full on wooden pallets) over the wall separating it into our field. loads of people round here seem to bag it and then leave the bag which seems wilfully malicious! at least if you just leave it it where it lands it will degrade and get washed away in the rain eventually.
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Feel disgusted the prick who tried to sabotage investigations into antisemitism got an apology. Pathetic. All the last four years were were an unnecessary risk to these cunts getti g cushy jobs for selling out the working class.
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Whereas leaving the bag gets it eaten by livestock which choke and/or poison themselves.
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The Question IRL posted:It would be a much longer post to explain in full but I'll give a brief breakdown. Thanks, that makes sense. If anyone wants to get angry, watch the BBC 2 interview at approx 11 or so with the lady from the Jewish Voice of Labour. They obviously got her on to support their narrative of the labour court case today (Corbyn = antisemite, Labour now fixed under Keir) and when she says the opposite the interviewer talks over her repeatedly then shuts her the gently caress down
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Rustybear posted:loads of people round here seem to bag it and then leave the bag which seems wilfully malicious! Uh. Really, try to imagine the mental state you'd have to be in to think 'How can I hurt people? I know, I shall bag my dog's poo!' It's not a thing. People go out walking their dogs, the dog shits early on, the owners bag the poo but do not want to have to carry the stinky bag for the rest of the walk. They leave the bag in place intending (however half-heartedly) to collect it on the way home, but then forget. It doesn't need to happen often per dog owner, because there are a lot of them.
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