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EC3 on Drake MaverickEC3 posted:I think NXT’s awesome and fun. Hopefully they use him to his capabilities as a story teller and a veteran presence and talent that can help mold a generation of people that might not get it yet. He’s awesome. If it was a different world and he was free to try something else, I would have been excited to see what he really could do, but at the same time in this world’s climate… NXT’s cool. They’ll let him be him. I mean, the guy pissed his pants for that company. For real pissed his pants. That wasn’t—the thing malfunctioned. Did you know this? So, someone has this great idea where he pisess his pants, send him out there with a malfunctioning [pant pisser]. It didn’t work. To watch him, he’s such a professional in the back of his mind, and he’s very paranoid, “Oh, man, I need a full tank just in case I need to pee my pants,” and he did.
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Rarity posted:EC3 on Drake Maverick Is this real? Holy smokes
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Malcolm Excellent posted:Is this real? That's just it, why would he make it up? Plus it absolutely follows their MO.
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If peeing your pants is cool, consider me Drake Maverick
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EC3 being smart enough to see through the WWE BS is wild and kind of embarrassing for anyone who doesn't.
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Malcolm Excellent posted:Is this real? He's not the first person to say Drake legit pissed his pants in that segment Gumball Gumption posted:EC3 being smart enough to see through the WWE BS is wild and kind of embarrassing for anyone who doesn't. He looked extremely miserable basically from the callup on. When he said he was considering asking for his release even before the plague happened and "forced" their hand on doing it for him, I believe him Chris James 2 fucked around with this message at 14:28 on Jul 22, 2020 |
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Everything EC3 has done since his main roster callup has made me respect him loads and I really hope things work out for him cause he deserves better than Impact
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It's absolutely one of the (many) maddening things about WWE: "Is this wrestler a mark for themselves? Let's find out by booking them as a complete loser dork idiot. Well they went along with it like a good trooper, but we can't give them a push, they're a complete loser dork idiot!"
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I'm wondering if they forced the "can't gently caress my wife till I'm 24/7 champ" Twitter poo poo on him too because that was almost as bad
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Critical posted:I'm wondering if they forced the "can't gently caress my wife till I'm 24/7 champ" Twitter poo poo on him too because that was almost as bad With Robert Stone tweeting every single day “I GOT RAN OVER BY A TANK” it feels a bit like talent feels like they have to drill their storylines into people’s memories or else the writers will forget about it and they’ll lose their TV time
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EC3 wasn't even treated well in NXT, he was just kind of a guy doing stuff. Compared to the main roster run where he was glorified enhancement talent that's better but still, I was surprised at how nothing he was in NXT
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I mean, even Vince pissed his pants once - on live television no less
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Critical posted:I'm wondering if they forced the "can't gently caress my wife till I'm 24/7 champ" Twitter poo poo on him too because that was almost as bad
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Nut Bunnies posted:EC3 wasn't even treated well in NXT, he was just kind of a guy doing stuff. Compared to the main roster run where he was glorified enhancement talent that's better but still, I was surprised at how nothing he was in NXT Let's summarize this dude's WWE career. EC3 debuted at NXT Takeover New Orleans in April 2018, lost his debut ladder match to Adam Cole for the NA title. He then did nothing for 9 months, with TV wins over Raul Mendoza, Fabian Archer, Kona Reeves, Marcel Barthel, Bobby Fish. TV loses to Gargano, Velveteen Dream (Takeover), Lars Sullivan, and Adam Cole. I can't even remember the reason for the Takeover match, TBH. EC3 gets called up in January 2019 to Raw, debuts on Raw in February and defeats Ambrose in his debut match. Immediately goes 50/50 with a loss the next week to Ambrose. It is his only main roster win on Raw/SD in a normal 1-on-1 match. Does nothing... trades wins/loses on Main Event with Apollo Crews, Tyler Breeze, and No Way Jose. Is on the winning side of an 18 man tag on SD prior to WM (win #2), shows up the Wrestlemania Battle Royal and loses. Stuck on Main Event some more. Gets thrown into the 24/7 title chase segments, briefly wins the 24/7 title for less than a show to Cedric Alexander before losing it back to Truth in June 2019. Goes back to Main Event and does nothing. His last Raw appearance was Sept 2019 losing to Rusev, and then a loss on Main Event that same month to Gran Metalik/Lince Dorado. He then does doesn't have a match until he is fired on April 15th, 2020.
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EC3 has a 5 star match in NXT.
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Railing against cancel culture in a promo (as a face) when you're debuting for a company that parted ways with at least two talents due to misconduct (including one, Joey Ryan, that was in a stable called Cancel Culture) sure is a choice.
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Is he doing a Patrick Bateman thing? Sucks rear end that Bret Easton Ellis turned out to be a huge reactionary shithead but I guess I should have seen it coming.
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I can never tell if it's an excuse to get people to do the humiliating thing and then cast them aside but WWE has always done the "Book a person to be humiliated, do nothing with them because you don't respect them anymore for having been humiliated" thing. Is there a term for holding contempt for the fake bullshit you've invested your entire life into while also taking it dreadfully seriously?
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Gonzo McFee posted:I can never tell if it's an excuse to get people to do the humiliating thing and then cast them aside but WWE has always done the "Book a person to be humiliated, do nothing with them because you don't respect them anymore for having been humiliated" thing. Is there a term for holding contempt for the fake bullshit you've invested your entire life into while also taking it dreadfully seriously? Getting worked.
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Gonzo McFee posted:I can never tell if it's an excuse to get people to do the humiliating thing and then cast them aside but WWE has always done the "Book a person to be humiliated, do nothing with them because you don't respect them anymore for having been humiliated" thing. Is there a term for holding contempt for the fake bullshit you've invested your entire life into while also taking it dreadfully seriously? Entertaining yourself.
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Destroy My Sweater posted:Is he doing a Patrick Bateman thing? Sucks rear end that Bret Easton Ellis turned out to be a huge reactionary shithead but I guess I should have seen it coming. I think it's just a Kirkland Brand CM Punk thing.
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Reminder, even before his EC3 run he was Derrick Bateman and went through the entire WWE ringer including NXT Redemption. His EC3 run is his Drew McIntyre return run. So like... even if he's a piece of poo poo fascist whose 15 minutes are probably over I'm not super surprised he "gets" WWE and how they operate. He's had a better view of it than most.
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Eric Young spoke to Busted Open RadioEric Young posted:It was time to move on from the structure of the current company, I felt I had done everything I was going to be allowed to do there. Obviously, WWE is a place I wanted to work my whole career, that was the goal. My first goal was to sign a contract to say, 'this is what I do for a living,' and I signed my first contract in 2004 with TNA. My other goal was to make it to WWE.
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EC3 is a solid candidate in the "biggest waste" category of discussion, because even if he himself was just okay as a performer virtually everyone gets SOME level of shot that they then proceed to fail, whereas EC3 was on the main roster for like a year and a half and had a grand total of like seven minutes of onscreen time that wasn't part of a 20-person 24/7 clusterfuck. gently caress the guy personally, though.
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I’ve never been a fan of ECIII (Derrick Bateman was kinda funny) or Eric Young but it’s amazing at how efficiently WWE destroys people’s dreams
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Seams posted:I’ve never been a fan of ECIII (Derrick Bateman was kinda funny) or Eric Young but it’s amazing at how efficiently WWE destroys people’s dreams It's not the 'E's fault they didn't have star potential /s
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CarlCX posted:EC3 is a solid candidate in the "biggest waste" category of discussion, because even if he himself was just okay as a performer virtually everyone gets SOME level of shot that they then proceed to fail, whereas EC3 was on the main roster for like a year and a half and had a grand total of like seven minutes of onscreen time that wasn't part of a 20-person 24/7 clusterfuck. His "shot" apparently was "getting booked to beat Moxley in Moxley's final run when they were mad at Moxley for leaving", and then them being mad at EC3 when EC3 inevitably got booed in that situation Which, that poo poo was their own fault for putting him (either of them really!) in that position to begin with Chris James 2 fucked around with this message at 23:41 on Jul 22, 2020 |
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Rarity posted:Eric Young spoke to Busted Open Radio Eric Young posted:I feel like I didn’t exist for two years. After being on TV every week for 14 or 15 years and working so hard to build your career. We’re all independent contractors. We’re all our own business. Then having a person basically take a dump on all of your hard work and discard it like nothing. It’s hard to deal with, man. It’s a huge blow to the psyche. A huge blow to the ego. But I never thought, ‘Oh, this is my fault.’ The system is just broken. It’s flawed. All the flaws are created by one person and that’s not gonna change, unfortunately. So, unfortunately, for a lot of people there, a lot of creative people and a lot of really talented people, they’re never really going to be able to fully do what they can do because of the way the system is organized. It’s sad. It’s mostly just sad and super frustrating when you’re in it. But now I can say I can smile because I don’t have to deal with that anymore. https://twitter.com/garrettkidney/status/1286055356788027397
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Wasn't EC3's gimmick that he would look at himself in the mirror, instead of promos? Good times, I'm sure.
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I mean, they're doing the same thing to fans. They take a part of wrestling or a wrestler you thought you loved and make you hate it in some way. Loved Ricochet on the indies or Japan? Well here he is cutting terrible promos and losing all the time.
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It's our fault for not realizing lumbering, Godzilla-like 'roid monsters aren't the greatest wrestlers ever
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Working in WWE just sounds so utterly soul destroying. I've done just about every low paying job there is but I honestly think that if you gave me the choice between going back to wiping bums and wrestling for WWE I'd still work for WWE but with a very lazy, barely there attitude.
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Randaconda posted:It's our fault for not realizing lumbering, Godzilla-like 'roid monsters aren't the greatest wrestlers ever There are many things I'm sure Vince didn't like about EC3 but a lack of 'roids definitely wasn't one of them.
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Its the worst of the corporate cog in the machine job but with the added perks of killing your body, never being home, and no benefits or pension. But if you're real lucky arenas of people will cheer you for awhile and you can build some money so you can one day retire.
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Apropos of this topic, Miro and Lana/CJ spent a solid half-hour or so discussing his WWE tenure on his stream today, and Miro talked about the inherent frustration of constantly losing not just from an ego perspective, but from the perspective that what he wanted most was to be the best at the thing he was doing and he reached a point where he couldn't handle not knowing what he was doing wrong or what it would take for him to ever move forward in the company, and never getting any answers or guidance from management on what he should be doing differently for them to invest in him.
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Rusev is charismatic, good looking, and great in the ring. What an absolute waste. and they had him younger, too. Could have gotten 15 solid years out of him
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MotU posted:Rusev is charismatic, good looking, and great in the ring. What an absolute waste. and they had him younger, too. Could have gotten 15 solid years out of him exactly. He could have been a legit main eventer when they have been struggling for years to create new ones.
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CarlCX posted:Apropos of this topic, Miro and Lana/CJ spent a solid half-hour or so discussing his WWE tenure on his stream today, and Miro talked about the inherent frustration of constantly losing not just from an ego perspective, but from the perspective that what he wanted most was to be the best at the thing he was doing and he reached a point where he couldn't handle not knowing what he was doing wrong or what it would take for him to ever move forward in the company, and never getting any answers or guidance from management on what he should be doing differently for them to invest in him. I think this is important in discussing how "WWE destroys dreams", and how they "take the thing you love." Miro/Rusev is not the first or the only one to say that you don't get told what you did or didn't do wrong. Despite the multiple people with experience and industry wisdom hanging around as agents/managers etc., WWE does not tell you what you need to do to be "better" in their eyes, or what you did that made you fall out of favour. Whether this is part of the intricate backstage web of politics etc. or if it is just because nobody knows the hows, whys. and whens of whether Vince likes/dislikes, or even forgets about a particular wrestler, I don't have any way of knowing. But this feeling like you are being punished for something that you don't even know or understand what you did must add immensely to the weight on your shouders as you pay money out of your own pocket to rent a car for another 4+ hour drive where you will end up doing nothing and getting yelled at for being 5 mins late.
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