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Dynamite is looking to lose the James Bond license because of this, so I hope Comicsgate can bring in the same money! (They can't) https://twitter.com/AGramuglia/status/1286038041224785922?s=20
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LOL at being too misogynsitic to hold on to the James Bond license.
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Jul 22, 2020 22:26
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I've somehow remained blissfully aware of what Comicsgate even is.
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Jul 22, 2020 22:51
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Well there's 200 pages of it here to catch up on it
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Jul 22, 2020 23:00
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Entropic posted:I've somehow remained blissfully aware of what Comicsgate even is. TLDR: It's a spinoff of the "gamergate" crowd which means it's a collection of predominantly young-ish (but old enough to know better) mostly white men who were "let down" by (and generally coasted through) the "No Child Left Behind" era American school system; who had parents who never forced them to apply themselves to anything; bought into the myth of American exceptionalism; or who otherwise managed to make it through their formative years without ever having held themselves responsible for any of their own choices. This left the vast majority of them unprepared for their post-school careers not instantly turning them into celebrity millionaires. Generally they're (loudly) attempting to take out their late-stage capitalism-fueled frustrations about their own inadequacies out on creators who are not themselves white men because they aren't willing to accept that those creators have succeeded in their personal "dream field(s)" by working harder than they have. Comicsgate as a culture undervalues hard work (and sees laziness as something to aspire to) which is one of the reasons why nearly every comicsgater that has achieved any sort of prominence within their community has immediately used that to start fleecing their followers for easy money. PoptartsNinja fucked around with this message at 23:37 on Jul 22, 2020 |
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E the Shaggy posted:Dynamite is looking to lose the James Bond license because of this, so I hope Comicsgate can bring in the same money! (They can't) Hope they keep being able to sell the Warren Ellis collections!
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Jul 22, 2020 23:37
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Dark lol
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Uthor posted:Hope they keep being able to sell the Warren Ellis collections! Did Warren Ellis write Bond comics? A month ago I would have been super excited to track that down.
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Jul 22, 2020 23:59
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He wrote a bunch based on the novels. https://www.dynamite.com/htmlfiles/viewProduct.html?PRO=C1524115045
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FMguru posted:LOL at being too misogynsitic to hold on to the James Bond license. That's always been a big part of it, the comics gate types don't actually read comics, let alone buy them; they're just here to harass women and minorities on twitter
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Retro Futurist posted:That's always been a big part of it, the comics gate types don't actually read comics, let alone buy them; they're just here to harass women and minorities on twitter It's true. As Dynamite has shown, courting them is useless because they don't actually want to read Red Sonja or Vampirella on a regular basis, they want to throw outrage dollars at EVS or Mike Miller or whomever and brag about it on Twitter. The closest they get is watching Dickie mumble his way through another of his pull lists and then violently tear up a four dollar comic because he doesn't find Psylocke in that issue desirable enough to sleep with.
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Entropic posted:I've somehow remained blissfully aware of what Comicsgate even is. my friend it is 2020, you can safely assume anything [thing]gate exists and is a bunch of chuds angry that [thing] doesn't pander exclusively to them any more
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Comicsgate manages to be even more nakedly bigoted than gamergate since it doesn't even have a figleaf of concerns about ethics to hide behind.
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Retro Futurist posted:That's always been a big part of it, the comics gate types don't actually read comics, let alone buy them; they're just here to harass women and minorities on twitter Are you sure? I've looked at a bunch of CG people and they all seem to buy comics, not sure that there are enough of them to hurt a company if they stop buying that company's comics though. Related to that I ended up watching a video by someone complaining about the New Warriors characters and she said that if Marvel was going to release a comic like that then she was just going to stop buying comics, to stop buying New Warrior comics but all comics. How you can say that and then say you don't want politics in comics I don't know.
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Doctor Spaceman posted:Comicsgate manages to be even more nakedly bigoted than gamergate since it doesn't even have a figleaf of concerns about ethics to hide behind.
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Threep posted:Gamergate has literally never been about ethics Yes, I know. My point is that Gamergate tried ever-so-slightly to hide their bigotry while Comicsgate doesn't even do that. There's no equivalent of "ethics in games journalism".
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edit: see above, that’s what I get for posting while verbose! I don’t think they were saying GG was about ethics. They were using “figleaf” as a metaphor to say that despite all of GGs claims to be about ethics, their position is nakedly about being abusive bigots who believe they should have the power to flop their flaccid, unwashed privates to the world without consequence. They want women, PoC (especially Black people in the US), and LGBTQ+ folks to be silent and thankful when they slap people in the face with their metaphorical (and given MeToo, at times literal) dicks. My biggest mistake was not posting this early and often when GG was new and this site forbid its discussion.
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E the Shaggy posted:Dynamite is looking to lose the James Bond license because of this, so I hope Comicsgate can bring in the same money! (They can't)
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bessantj posted:Are you sure? I've looked at a bunch of CG people and they all seem to buy comics, not sure that there are enough of them to hurt a company if they stop buying that company's comics though. Related to that I ended up watching a video by someone complaining about the New Warriors characters and she said that if Marvel was going to release a comic like that then she was just going to stop buying comics, to stop buying New Warrior comics but all comics. How you can say that and then say you don't want politics in comics I don't know. They buy Comicsgate comics not because they're good, but because it's to "own the libz". There are constant reports of how lovely some of these comics are, with glaring printing errors and the like but they keep pumping money into them.
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Comicsgates people, with very very very few exceptions show a *staggering* lack of knowledge about comics. Like less than I would expect a casual fan to have.
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My favourite is when these "comic readers" show their arses by telling the people that write and draw comics that they know nothing about the characters they are writing and drawing about. I am pretty sure some idiot called out Paul Dini about knowing nothing about Harley Quinn.
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Was it some gater with the funny “If you haven’t heard of Harley Quinn before the animated series”?
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ImpAtom posted:Comicsgates people, with very very very few exceptions show a *staggering* lack of knowledge about comics. Like less than I would expect a casual fan to have. I think a casual fan of comics has basically zero knowledge of comics outside of whatever they read.
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Open Marriage Night posted:Was it some gater with the funny “If you haven’t heard of Harley Quinn before the animated series”? Possibly but I had a dude like that as a regular customer.
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It was. I might not have been a gator but it was definitely one of those people who think they know way more about something than the people they are talking to. There is a probably a large overlap on a Venn Diagram.
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Madkal posted:My favourite is when these "comic readers" show their arses by telling the people that write and draw comics that they know nothing about the characters they are writing and drawing about. They tried to call out Gail Simone for not knowing Deadpool. And don't forget that CG mostly started over a posted picture of Marvel's editorial staff going out for a milkshake in celebration of Flo Steinberg. Dickie Meyers might be the most un-charismatic dope I've ever seen to rally around.
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Dawgstar posted:They tried to call out Gail Simone for not knowing Deadpool. She shared this yesterday: https://twitter.com/GailSimone/status/1285961548167442435?s=20 I remember that Punisher tweet going around. 
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Uthor posted:I remember that Punisher tweet going around. On some level I feel I should be surprised people leap for such low-hanging fruit unironically, but then I remember One Angry Gamer's infamous 'enemies of free whatever' list and people would keep tweeting at him 'hey, thanks for letting me know who to support!' and he genuinely seemed super verklempt that people thought that should be their takeaway. They're just none too bright on the whole.
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Dawgstar posted:On some level I feel I should be surprised people leap for such low-hanging fruit unironically, but then I remember One Angry Gamer's infamous 'enemies of free whatever' list and people would keep tweeting at him 'hey, thanks for letting me know who to support!' and he genuinely seemed super verklempt that people thought that should be their takeaway. They're just none too bright on the whole. I remember Microsft, Google and Apple were all on their so I wondered he did all his tweeting from a Nintendo 3ds or something.
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Jordan7hm posted:I think a casual fan of comics has basically zero knowledge of comics outside of whatever they read. Remember the 'fans' who were upset at Constantine being bi? That was funny.
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Jordan7hm posted:I think a casual fan of comics has basically zero knowledge of comics outside of whatever they read. I mean one of their primary complaints is "comics are too political now" which is laughable to anyone aware of the popular hero Captain America
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ImpAtom posted:I mean one of their primary complaints is "comics are too political now" which is laughable to anyone aware of the popular hero Captain America "But I don't mean THAT kind of politics..." "That's not politics!!" It's some replies I swear I've seen in the wild when someone brings up stuff like Captain America kicking Hitler's rear end. Their brains always turn in to mighty pretzels.
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Politics are things that I don't agree with
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Internet Wizard posted:Politics are things that I don't agree with It's exactly this.
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The things I agree with aren't politics, they're just simple common sense.
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ImpAtom posted:I mean one of their primary complaints is "comics are too political now" which is laughable to anyone aware of the popular hero Captain America The best part is that, when given the opportunity to write their own comics, they write things like GOD-KING TRUMP'S HOLY REPUBLIVENGERS VS THE DEMONRAT MENACE
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Darth Nat posted:The best part is that, when given the opportunity to write their own comics, they write things like GOD-KING TRUMP'S HOLY REPUBLIVENGERS VS THE DEMONRAT MENACE "A RADIOACTIVE YARMULKA GAVE BEN AND ABBY SHAPIRO MYSTERIOUS POWERS. NOW THEY BATTLE ONLINE TROLLS AS SHAPE*HERO AND JEWESS!"
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Uthor posted:She shared this yesterday: @Marvel let me write "Punisher Murder Annual #3"
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