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Red Oktober
May 24, 2006

wiggly eyes!



Jaeluni Asjil posted:

Indeed.
I haven't seen those tweets because I'm blocking myself (so I can't even see them if posted on here unless an image).

I saw yet another polemic yesterday about how accusing people of being 'puppet masters' is (a) anti-semitic if they are jewish (b) rhetorical anti-semitism if they are not.

FFS.

Pinocchio, created by the puppet master Geppetto, whose name is derived from Giuseppe, the Italian for Joesph. Pinocchio is therefore Jesus (famously jewish), and has a nose which grows until it is very large - an anti-Semitic trope.

Anti-semitism confirmed.

3-2-1. Followed by 'liftoff' is what we will hear shortly before blasting off from this hell-world to Musk's orbital fortress.

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Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

sassassin posted:

Wales getting careless.

Almost no mask wearing round my way. Ridiculous.
I get the odd look when I'm out there in a mask but with my imposing figure and 'have a go if you think you're hard enough' general demeanour no one dares say anything to my face.

BizarroAzrael
Apr 6, 2006

"That must weigh heavily on your soul. Let me purge it for you."
My fudge order arrives too, terrific stuff.

Maugrim
Feb 16, 2011

I eat your face
My fudge has arrived! That's cheered me right up after a lovely week.

Love the business card. E: noticeably sturdier box too.

ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

one of the other guys took to collecting all that guys dirty pans etc, going in 'dirty guy's' room, pulling back his bed covers and dumping the dirty pans all over his sheets. It escalated from there on in.

I used to live with a guy who never washed up and left plates in his room to the point we got an infestation of fruit flies. We demanded he clean up so he put all his trash in a bin bag and just left it in the hall outside his room. After asking him to put it in the bin for over a week a couple of us decided to put the bin big inside his door as a gentle reminder, then went to the pub. Long story short, we got home and he'd melted the gently caress down and strewn all the contents all over the whole floor of the house (thank god we'd locked our individual rooms) then proceeded to scream and spit at and try to fight everyone at once, then locked himself back in his room and called the police saying we were trying to kill him. Fun times!

Lord of the Llamas
Jul 9, 2002

EULER'VE TO SEE IT VENN SOMEONE CALLS IT THE WRONG THING AND PROVOKES MY WRATH
We went to London to get Mrs Llamas a passport (had to go to a consulate) and were horrified how casual people were behaving compared to Edinburgh. I had been a bit sceptical when Sturgeon brought in compulsory masks seemingly late in the game but seeing how things are down there has me fully 100% behind it. Also the train journey was awesome because usually the east coast line is so crowded but was so quiet.

justcola
May 22, 2004

La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo

blunt posted:

Did you have any conversations with him about the household dynamic before he moved in?

I'm asking this specifically because (pre-pandemic) some of my housemates would have probably described me like that, but from my perspective between an office job and a pretty active social life the times that I was actually home I would absolutely just want to sit in my room, have some peace, enjoy my hobbies/game and have a break from the effort that being social requires.

I guess my point is try and establish if you both have the expectations before you make any grand gestures/efforts towards him, else you might just end up annoying him and making him uncomfortable in his home. Your housemates are your housemates, your friends are your friends. There might be some crossover over time, but it shouldn't be assumed that anybody who moves in is going to develop into a full friendship.

(That's absolutely not to say that you don't also have the same rights to be comfortable in your home etc ... Balance)

Thanks for the responses! I talked to him a bit before just to say no house partys and I tend to like doing stuff together, both of which he agreed to. I just find the messiness to be an issue - I've talked to him about it several times, it goes alright for a few days then falls off again. Or he sort of half tidies up, like putting the recycling in the wrong place, then I still have to tidy up. I hate the idea I'm having to nag someone to mop up their piss if they go to the toilet or take the bins out like, once in a few months would be good - and I never thought I'd be the person to suggest a cleaning rota, though I'm edging towards that? I also worry about his health a bit as he's become quite a round pale boy and sometimes I hear him crying (though he says he's alright?)

I like his character, its just his behaviour gets to me and I don't want to feel like his mum. I'd love to just blast metal and get pissed and have my friends over but I don't, though I'm wondering if maybe I should? When I do check-in with him now and then he says he's happy living here but I sort of want him to move out one day, not have his flesh welded to his bed.

Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

Could you input an equation y=sqrt(x) for example and generate a hollow 'beaker' with that equation as the form of the outline?
Please don't print non euclidean shapes :ohdear:


justcola posted:

A few months back I got a new housemate and he's been doing my head in. He sits in his room all day playing games and shouting to his pals on his mic, never cleans up and the rare times I see him he talks and talks about anime or games or whatever, there's no real dialogue.

[...]

I've tried a lot to do more stuff together, but if I cook us tea he just takes it to his room or if I suggest some activity to do he's always busy. I really want to get along with him as we live together, but I feel I'm putting all the effort in and he just doesn't care
He might just be an introvert. Have a discussion with him - as someone else said, see what his expectations are in a living space. He might not be looking for a friend, just a space to live, in which case your attempts to intrude on him in his own home are probably annoying, in which case if you can't stand leaving him alone, you might be better off not being housemates.

E: Didn't read the bit about messiness, set fire to him.

Bobby Deluxe fucked around with this message at 14:26 on Jul 24, 2020

Lord of the Llamas
Jul 9, 2002

EULER'VE TO SEE IT VENN SOMEONE CALLS IT THE WRONG THING AND PROVOKES MY WRATH
Just ask what his forums name is.

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

Guavanaut posted:

Saying 'beyond the pale' is antisemitic because one etymology is the Pale of Settlement in Russia. Beyond the pale there are Jews.

WITHIN the pale and only within, there were Jews. Its actually anti goyim.

(Actually anti Irish ofc)

Lt. Danger
Dec 22, 2006

jolly good chaps we sure showed the hun

messiness is a problem but personally the idea of having to be anything more than 'cordial' to a housemate or else they'll get upset sounds exhausting

justcola
May 22, 2004

La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo

Bobby Deluxe posted:

Please don't print non euclidean shapes :ohdear:

He might just be an introvert. Have a discussion with him - as someone else said, see what his expectations are in a living space. He might not be looking for a friend, just a space to live, in which case your attempts to intrude on him in his own home are probably annoying, in which case if you can't stand leaving him alone, you might be better off not being housemates.

I'm fine leaving him be, I might not actually see him for a few days at a time. Him staying in his room and playing games for 16 hours straight I can sort of understand - it's just the messiness and the noise really. I love this house and had been living here for a year before he moved in so don't want to move out. I don't know. I've tried talking to him multiple times, leaving stuff be to see what happens naturally, tried to change my own perceptions or understanding. Only thing I haven't done is just act as obnoxiously as he does, but I don't really want to do that either as its rude.

Sheesh!

At least the countryside round here is nice. If I lived in a city I'd have probably cracked by now.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012
https://twitter.com/labourgrt/status/1286616478238867456?s=21

This account generally has short shrift for racist bullshit, so them being impressed with his apology is actually quite significant.

Mebh
May 10, 2010


Terrible flatmate chat:

Had one flatmate that didn't change his bedsheets in an entire year. He would open his room door and it would fill the top floor with a smell that I can only describe as rotten roast beef.

The other flatmate was a goon and his entire room was strewn with clothes and plates. Over the course of a couple weeks he'd slowly pull all the plates, cups and cutlery into his room. We'd complain and he'd take it all into the sink, run hot water over it, then get too stressed to deal and move home for a week. He used to constantly buy a dish from Marks and Spencer called roman hunters lamb and let it rot on his plates. To this day 15 years later I still can't handle the smell of lamb in gravy.

He completely trashed his room and left it smelling like rotten milk, but moved out before us and got his deposit back, we were saddled with the bill and all lost our deposits.

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

Camrath posted:

Iirc you only had the vegan option?

Be very interested in your thoughts on it. That batch came out more like tablet (which is odd given how literally /every/ other one did- I suspect the different types of fat in the base ingredients are the reason).

And yeah, I did feel your box was a bit too empty lol. Basically about 95% of my orders are for 5+ bags, hence the larger boxes- also the brown boxes are an order of magnitude sturdier than the white ones from previous batches, but because they’re from thicker cardboard they’re also bigger.

Also, I just realised. Quite by accident I genuinely have created what is effectively UKMT.xls, just from organising my orders over the months..

Emailed you so we don't fudge up the thread too much, so if you want more detailed feedback we can do it there? Overall really really good, both me and my partner really enjoyed it.

blunt
Jul 7, 2005

Mebh posted:

Terrible flatmate chat:

A terrible story with an important lesson: never be the last person to move out of a shared house.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
I've fallen into angry white Brit twitter and the replies to this are something :catstare: but it's like reading British Freep. Love to live in a world where Boris Johnson is a socialist communist and Priti Patel is to the left of Diane Abbott.

https://twitter.com/Eastwood1A1/status/1286300489538306052

justcola
May 22, 2004

La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo

Guavanaut posted:

I've fallen into angry white Brit twitter and the replies to this are something :catstare: but it's like reading British Freep. Love to live in a world where Boris Johnson is a socialist communist and Priti Patel is to the left of Diane Abbott.

https://twitter.com/Eastwood1A1/status/1286300489538306052

all of what they fear sounds good to me

crispix
Mar 28, 2015

Grand-Maman m'a raconté
(Les éditions des amitiés franco-québécoises)

Hello, dear

ThomasPaine posted:

I used to live with a guy who never washed up and left plates in his room to the point we got an infestation of fruit flies. We demanded he clean up so he put all his trash in a bin bag and just left it in the hall outside his room. After asking him to put it in the bin for over a week a couple of us decided to put the bin big inside his door as a gentle reminder, then went to the pub. Long story short, we got home and he'd melted the gently caress down and strewn all the contents all over the whole floor of the house (thank god we'd locked our individual rooms) then proceeded to scream and spit at and try to fight everyone at once, then locked himself back in his room and called the police saying we were trying to kill him. Fun times!

Why do people do that?! Reminds me of when I first moved to Edinburgh and lived for a couple of months with a guy from Cambridge who was a chemical engineer and one of the most idiotic people I've ever met. When we first met he didn't know what Northern Ireland was. He thought I was from abroad. It wasn't long before I realised that one component of the horrific musk emanating from his room was from several basins lined up against one wall in which he put all his dirty dishes - pots and everything. Every Sunday he did all his washing up at once and utterly flooded the kitchen every time. Like he got water at the other end of the huge Victorian kitchen somehow. I could probably write a small book about his quirks - I suppose being generous you could call them that. The last straw was the first time I had my ex around for dinner and for reasons known only to housemate he came down while we were chatting at the kitchen table waiting for food to cook and took a very long, loud, splattering poo poo in the small toilet right off the hall outside the kitchen despite there being a toilet upstairs

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!
Message from the organiser of the Corbyn fund-raiser (over £150k now).

https://www.gofundme.com/f/47gyy-jeremy039s-legal-fund

quote:

TODAY
by Carole Morgan, Organiser
I wanted to take this opportunity to express my deepest gratitude to everyone for the most amazing and overwhelming response to this fundraiser for Jeremy Corbyn. Although Jeremy did not know beforehand that I was going to start this campaign, Jeremy's office has been in touch and he is deeply touched by this outpouring of love and support from you all.

The funds on this campaign will not be touched and remain on hold by GoFundMe until the details for distribution have been established with Jeremy's office and I will continue to provide updates as they become available.

As you know, when I began this just over 24 hours ago, I wasn't sure what response I would get (why would I, I've never been moved to do anything like this before). However, like you, I am outraged by the unrelenting attacks on Jeremy Corbyn, a man who only ever wanted the best for the people of this country, and who lead with humility, integrity and honesty.

These ongoing attacks, both legal and political drove me to want to do something about it, and to let Jeremy know he is not alone. Far too many injustices have, and are being leveled at Jeremy that I have no doubt that this fund will help support him in what he is facing. Through this fund, it will become known that Jeremy is NOT alone. He is NOT the few. He is one amongst the many and we have started a fight back!

My gratitude to you all.

Carole

Ratjaculation
Aug 3, 2007

:parrot::parrot::parrot:



Guavanaut posted:

I've fallen into angry white Brit twitter and the replies to this are something :catstare: but it's like reading British Freep. Love to live in a world where Boris Johnson is a socialist communist and Priti Patel is to the left of Diane Abbott.

https://twitter.com/Eastwood1A1/status/1286300489538306052

Hahaha I remember this fucker was part of Vagina or whatever Kilroy's nazi party was called back in Cornwall.

Good on him for staying the same, shame on the passage of time for not claiming him.

crispix
Mar 28, 2015

Grand-Maman m'a raconté
(Les éditions des amitiés franco-québécoises)

Hello, dear

Ratjaculation posted:

Hahaha I remember this fucker was part of Vagina or whatever Kilroy's nazi party was called back in Cornwall.

Good on him for staying the same, shame on the passage of time for not claiming him.

Veritas :smug:

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Good drug policy, very lovely everything else. Bit like the 00s Libertarians.

crispix posted:

He thought I was from abroad.
That's people from Norfolk.

The Question IRL
Jun 8, 2013

Only two contestants left! Here is Doom's chance for revenge...

Guavanaut posted:


A lot of these cliches are informed by Christianity, and it turns out most of the history of Christianity was about turning a weird Jewish cult into a popular (and often antisemitic) faith. The first people calling Judas a traitor for selling a Jewish man out to the Romans were themselves Jews, but the character of Judas has been turned by the Christian middle ages into a caricature of 'The Jew' so it's not a great look.

But the cliches are so prevalent that I've even heard Orthodox Jews using Christian metaphor with dodgy past, so it's nowhere near up there with 'Zio' or 99% of the content of /pol/.

Also the Prime Minister literally wrote in a book that Jews are obsessed by money, but we don't talk about that.

It’s funny. From my memory of being educated in a Catholic school, the reason for Judas betraying Jesus are many.

In some iteration it is for the money. In other’s it was because Jesus asked him to do so.
In others, he did so due to a disagreement with Jesus over his teachings.

The point is, the money is often not Judas’ goal. But a concrete expression and reminder of his betrayal which causes guilt.

Of course it then changes depending on your nerd beliefs. Either Judas ends up in a Frozen Lake, as a vampire or a Superhero.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Happy to report that mask usage is near 100% across all the shops today.

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting
^^^ You've had a busy day, every shop?

justcola posted:

I'm fine leaving him be, I might not actually see him for a few days at a time. Him staying in his room and playing games for 16 hours straight I can sort of understand - it's just the messiness and the noise really. I love this house and had been living here for a year before he moved in so don't want to move out. I don't know. I've tried talking to him multiple times, leaving stuff be to see what happens naturally, tried to change my own perceptions or understanding. Only thing I haven't done is just act as obnoxiously as he does, but I don't really want to do that either as its rude.

Sheesh!

At least the countryside round here is nice. If I lived in a city I'd have probably cracked by now.

Is it just the two of you in the house and you have separate contracts and the agent/landlord just moved him in to a free room that a previous tenant vacated?

I'm kind of assuming that's the setup, in which case it might be a bit rubbish for you that you didn't get the ideal flatmate for you but not really much you can or should do?

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

NotJustANumber99 posted:

^^^ You've had a busy day, every shop?

A sampling of many from the area, yes, it's my job.

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup
Pillbug

blunt posted:

A terrible story with an important lesson: never be the last person to move out of a shared house.

This. Not sure if I posted this in here before, but I have a good story on how I dodged a few thousand bill our estate agent tried to lump me with.
Thankfully our place wasn't trashed, just general wear and tear, but the estate agents were notorious scumbags.

So a few weeks before the move out date, two people came to the door. Sharon was a rep of the estate agent. Power suit, clipboard, and everything.
Second person was a man in overalls, who I was never told the name of. He was the official 'handyman' for the houses owned by the estate agent. In all the years staying there, we never saw him when we needed help.
Sharon stayed with me and just chatted, while the handyman did a review of the house. He came back, they went and talked for a few minutes and Sharon came back with 'Ooooooo we are going to have to charge you a few hundred for this, that, that, that, this, and she reamed off a few things. There was some items that needed replacing, but she was saying stuff that the whole carpet needed replacing when it didn't.
I was like a deer in headlights.
She mentioned that the deposit wouldn't be enough to cover it all, and when they returned at the last day they will give me a final bill.

So for the next month I was making GBS threads myself worried how the gently caress I was meant to pay for this.
On the moving out day, it was a blue sky very hot day. Sharon arrived alone, but she was in a tshirt and jeans only, no suit like before.
First thing she asked was if I still had that bottle of wine in the fridge. I mentioned last time there was free stuff in the fridge left by the others that I wasn't going to take.
I got it, and we sat outside on the wall and drank a glass each.
She then said 'That bastard Michael (owner of the estate agents) got his mistress pregnant, and to pay her he has to get rid of a few of us. This is my last day'.
'I'm meant to give you this bill here, but I won't get a penny from it, so gently caress him. Just give me the key and you can go.'
I said sorry to hear, gave her the key, and hosed the right out of there.

Few months later I get a call from Michael himself asking where my last few months rent was. I told him I moved out, Sharon sorted it out.
Seems from what I have heard since the new tenants did a runner after trashing the place after a mad party. And Michael was probably trying to get me to pay for it.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

The Question IRL posted:

It’s funny. From my memory of being educated in a Catholic school, the reason for Judas betraying Jesus are many.

In some iteration it is for the money. In other’s it was because Jesus asked him to do so.
In others, he did so due to a disagreement with Jesus over his teachings.

The point is, the money is often not Judas’ goal. But a concrete expression and reminder of his betrayal which causes guilt.

Of course it then changes depending on your nerd beliefs. Either Judas ends up in a Frozen Lake, as a vampire or a Superhero.
Like most of the New Testament, there's deliberate echoes (not the nazi brackets) of the Torah in there, because the whole thing was written as a Jewish New Religious Movement/legitimate Jewish teaching at first, so the 30 pieces probably makes reference to the idea of paying blood money when you kill someone's slave.

Most people calling someone a Judas or saying 30 pieces of silver are just repeating the Christian (or the origianal Jewish) meme with no ill intent, but then you get people who take things way too far, like the Polish Catholics who beat up and burn an effigy of a modern Orthodox Jew with Judas written on it:


Jesus asking Judas to turn him in is definitely the most interesting one, because it ties into the whole "Jesus had to die to save the world" thing, and also means Judas is just a part of fulfilling prophecy rather than the bad traitor. I thought that was more of a Gnostic view than anything Canon though?

Bobstar
Feb 8, 2006

KartooshFace, you are not responding efficiently!

happyhippy posted:

'I'm meant to give you this bill here, but I won't get a penny from it, so gently caress him. Just give me the key and you can go.'
I said sorry to hear, gave her the key, and hosed the right out of there.

That's awesome.

I may also have posted before about the shared house in which rain water ran down the walls and out of lightswitches on the ground floor, and where the downstairs toilet sink plughole wasn't connected to anything and warped the floor. In that one though, nobody seemed to have any idea where the landlord was, including the agents, so we just got the QC dad of one of the posh housemates to write a scary email telling them they couldn't have any rent because the house was unfit to live in. That scared the agents into leaving us alone until we could move out.

Ratjaculation
Aug 3, 2007

:parrot::parrot::parrot:



OwlFancier posted:

Happy to report that mask usage is near 100% across all the shops today.

The one dude not wearing one (not me) in Morrisons here was getting angry looks, I'd find it funny but maybe he has a reason for not wearing them.

Either way, I don't care because I bought 2x 500ml tubs of soy ice cream for 80p a pop and its loving amazing*








*I also did my weekly shop to justify being there ofc

TheRat
Aug 30, 2006

Guavanaut posted:


Jesus asking Judas to turn him in is definitely the most interesting one, because it ties into the whole "Jesus had to die to save the world" thing, and also means Judas is just a part of fulfilling prophecy rather than the bad traitor. I thought that was more of a Gnostic view than anything Canon though?

My protestant upbringing is almost entirely forgotten, but from I remember we were taught Jesus repeatedly told judas he would betray him and he reluctantly did it in the end despite refusing many times.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
It's always struck me as weird how some Christians simultaneously believe the "God so loved the world that he sent his Son to die for it, which is the only thing that gave us a chance of salvation from the Fall" and also "Judas is (or Jews are in general if they're antisemites) terrible because he/they got Jesus killed."

Like isn't that what you wanted? Or at least what had to happen? The "it was all prophecy and Judas was fated to do it and hated having to do so" at least makes internal sense.

The Question IRL
Jun 8, 2013

Only two contestants left! Here is Doom's chance for revenge...

Guavanaut posted:

Like most of the New Testament, there's deliberate echoes (not the nazi brackets) of the Torah in there, because the whole thing was written as a Jewish New Religious Movement/legitimate Jewish teaching at first, so the 30 pieces probably makes reference to the idea of paying blood money when you kill someone's slave.

Maybe. But the people who paid Judas were the Romans. Essentially the Fuzz at the time.
I imagine that the concept of "the powerful offer a reward to get someone to betray their loved ones/"assist in catching a dangerous criminal" is not a modern idea.


Guavanaut posted:

Jesus asking Judas to turn him in is definitely the most interesting one, because it ties into the whole "Jesus had to die to save the world" thing, and also means Judas is just a part of fulfilling prophecy rather than the bad traitor. I thought that was more of a Gnostic view than anything Canon though?

Well it's not based on some mad idea that only exists in the Christian Expanded Universe.
The Bible itself talks about Jesus know what will happen to Him in advance and letting it happen. (Not being happy about it since He knows being crucified will suck.)
The logical extrapolation there is if He knew it was going to happen why He would allow someone to betray Him?
So it's very much something that can be considered a part of the canon.

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

The Question IRL posted:

Maybe. But the people who paid Judas were the Romans. Essentially the Fuzz at the time.
I imagine that the concept of "the powerful offer a reward to get someone to betray their loved ones/"assist in catching a dangerous criminal" is not a modern idea.

This is why I hate cops and Italians

The Question IRL
Jun 8, 2013

Only two contestants left! Here is Doom's chance for revenge...

Guavanaut posted:

It's always struck me as weird how some Christians simultaneously believe the "God so loved the world that he sent his Son to die for it, which is the only thing that gave us a chance of salvation from the Fall" and also "Judas is (or Jews are in general if they're antisemites) terrible because he/they got Jesus killed."

Like isn't that what you wanted? Or at least what had to happen? The "it was all prophecy and Judas was fated to do it and hated having to do so" at least makes internal sense.

It's part of a bigger idea which is how you interpret or what purpose do you place on religion?

Is it about dividing lines to give you a clear cut Tribe of Us Vs. Them or to give you someone to Judge?
Then it is the Mexican's fault* and also you are supposed to hate Gays and people who plant different types of crops together because one small part of the Bible says so.

If Relgion is to provide a general guiding principle for how you are to live your life and offer comfort in times of trouble?
Than the Lord works in mysterious ways that sometimes dick him over. But the overwhelming message is "love your neighbour." Even if they eat the wrong kind of meat.


*= It's a joke from a Tommy Tiernan set that he got into trouble for. Don't ask.

Oh dear me
Aug 14, 2012

I have burned numerous saucepans, sometimes right through the metal

Guavanaut posted:

The "it was all prophecy and Judas was fated to do it and hated having to do so" at least makes internal sense.

I don't think there's any way to make the story as presented in the gospels make sense. Jesus is supposed to be attracting crowds wherever he goes, yet the Romans need Judas to kiss him before they know who he is. We are not told why pointing wouldn't have worked.

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

Oh dear me posted:

I don't think there's any way to make the story as presented in the gospels make sense. Jesus is supposed to be attracting crowds wherever he goes, yet the Romans need Judas to kiss him before they know who he is. We are not told why pointing wouldn't have worked.

That is a very good point, never thought of it myself!
I have ordained relatives en familie, might be worth asking them for their views!

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

Oh dear me posted:

I don't think there's any way to make the story as presented in the gospels make sense. Jesus is supposed to be attracting crowds wherever he goes, yet the Romans need Judas to kiss him before they know who he is. We are not told why pointing wouldn't have worked.

The Romans liked to watch.

E: :wtc: is with my new avatar lol

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Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.

Mebh posted:

Terrible flatmate chat:

Had one flatmate that didn't change his bedsheets in an entire year. He would open his room door and it would fill the top floor with a smell that I can only describe as rotten roast beef.

Could have been worse, could have been flamin' hot

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