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Random Texas question here: Does anybody know any standard rules or laws for hiking and biking along gas/oil pipelines? There are a few going through Austin. I see in some neighborhoods that they have a small wooden fence with an opening across them and then there are places where it's all shut up. I wondered if there was actually some rules about going along them.
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zoux posted:
Grandstand.
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# ? Jul 24, 2020 06:14 |
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https://mobile.twitter.com/PatrickSvitek/status/1286539354454794241 Bexar political parties, man
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# ? Jul 24, 2020 07:13 |
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Democratic Pirate posted:If there’s no hurricane, I hope the rain hits central Texas all weekend so I can sit inside, drink beer, make tacos, and watch my grass come back from the brink. Grillpill baby
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# ? Jul 24, 2020 10:23 |
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Rocko Bonaparte posted:Random Texas question here: Does anybody know any standard rules or laws for hiking and biking along gas/oil pipelines? There are a few going through Austin. I see in some neighborhoods that they have a small wooden fence with an opening across them and then there are places where it's all shut up. I wondered if there was actually some rules about going along them. My experience running on these kinds of properties in rural Texas down here is that a ton of it is just through ranches and things and as long as you aren't interacting with the pipeline foremen or whatever (i.e. running across an active construction zone) and as long as it doesn't cross through an easement that is basically someone's lived-in property where you're pretty much walking through their yard, no one really minds very much. However, if it goes right through a yard or a field of spooked cattle or the livable part of a ranch or something, this is Texas and people can get testy. Legally, it's pretty clear cut, you can't do it. Practically, eh - don't piss people off and they won't say much, at least where I've done it. A lot of this has changed in the last 3-4 decades, as well. We used to play in oil fields and ride or walk along train tracks and the private companies for a lot of reasonable reasons have restricted this with signs posted no trespassing, so you do have to be mindful. Pipeline crews are pretty ad hoc and don't care as much, but don't gently caress with the railroads, heh. I went walking down a railroad track around my hometown that I used to walk down as a kid and ended up in a friendly conversation with a sheriff's deputy who had been called by a train engineer who called after he spotted me when I backed about 10 feet off the track to let the train pass. Sheriffs are elected and my address is local, so he was very cool, but basically told me, look, I'm not gonna do poo poo, but if they send out the BNSF police they will cite you or haul you in, so probably don't do this. I looked it up and if you google BNSF police, sure enough, God bless our railway-built state, they have actual legal authority through a patchwork of agreements. EDIT: I really should add as a caveat, and I've never control tested this, but my guess is this is very much a white privilege thing. Other than the fact that I'm exercising and relatively in shape, I look like the local stereotype of anything from a pipeline foreman to LEO to whatever, so I usually get a pass or a polite, if firm, reprimand. I'm pretty sure if I were a black kid or something that the result could, in some cases, be very different, so YMMV depending on your circumstance. It's Texas, and it's crossing private property. I've had guns pointed at me and shotguns shot over my head as a kid for similar, it could be much worse if it turns out you're on George Zimmerman's lawn and he happens to not like the color of your skin. ReindeerF fucked around with this message at 19:23 on Jul 24, 2020 |
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zoux posted:https://mobile.twitter.com/PatrickSvitek/status/1286539354454794241 Oh wow, it's like looking into the future
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PostNouveau posted:Oh wow, it's like looking into the future jUsT VoTe
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# ? Jul 24, 2020 19:30 |
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The modern Western addiction to rules, rules, rules running headlong into the reality that gooey things like consensus and community matter has had increasingly predictable and increasingly self-destructive results. I wonder if it'll be possible to convince humpty dumpty that he has to want to put himself back together again and do some of the work, not just call the manager and an ambulance and then a lawyer to solve it for him.
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# ? Jul 24, 2020 19:32 |
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https://twitter.com/JTiloveTX/status/1286787210373738496?s=20 this is some Qanon poo poo right?
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# ? Jul 25, 2020 00:12 |
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no, it's more like marine todd poo poo
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# ? Jul 25, 2020 02:00 |
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https://www.statesman.com/news/20200724/cedar-park-official-teachers-should-return-to-campus-or-be-firedquote:A Facebook post by Cedar Park City Council Tim Kelly saying that teachers should return to campuses during the coronavirus pandemic or be fired has drawn criticism.
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# ? Jul 25, 2020 03:11 |
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i say swears online posted:https://www.statesman.com/news/20200724/cedar-park-official-teachers-should-return-to-campus-or-be-fired That's some really quality rear end in a top hat right there. Just a bona fide genuine rear end in a top hat.
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# ? Jul 25, 2020 04:27 |
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I know a number of historically straight ticket rural Republican teachers who are, finally, at least looking for options politically this year. DeVos's name is poison among all of them, for sure. They just have trouble cleaving the reality that their IDPOL game has collided with Maslow's Hierarchy. When you've spent your entire life being a cultural conservative and you're one of the only people in your group who has just realized that you didn't get a chair in the latest round of musical chairs, you find out pretty quickly that they don't care. Now you're a leech lol.
ReindeerF fucked around with this message at 11:40 on Jul 25, 2020 |
# ? Jul 25, 2020 11:38 |
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dunno if it holds up in trump's america, but up through even the tea party, rural west texas and panhandle republicans were some of the fiercest defenders of public education in the country
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# ? Jul 25, 2020 12:39 |
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It's headed straight for South Texas, woohoo. Coronacaine 2020: https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/news/2020-07-24-tropical-storm-hanna-forecast In other news, DHR, the hospital which allegedly had concentration-camp level conditions, issued some "proof" that they...uhhh...called an exterminator after they saw ants crawling all over their patients: https://www.themonitor.com/2020/07/24/ants-bodies-oxygen-dhr-releases-documents-addressing-social-media-allegations/
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# ? Jul 25, 2020 13:05 |
what, did they just spray poison over the patients lmao
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# ? Jul 25, 2020 13:16 |
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IT BURNS posted:It's headed straight for South Texas, woohoo. Coronacaine 2020: my dad's about to go take a walk along the beach so it can't be that bad. looks like it's heading directly for the king ranch which will put the valley on the "good" side corpus seems like the only bad place to be. san antonio will get some decent bands but i get the feeling anyone north of the colorado river is in for a disappointing time edit declared a cat 1! new path has it shifting south, valley still on the backside of the spin. probably the least populated place in the entire state for a hurricane to hit. amazing i say swears online fucked around with this message at 14:33 on Jul 25, 2020 |
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ReindeerF posted:A lot of this has changed in the last 3-4 decades, as well. We used to play in oil fields and ride or walk along train tracks and the private companies for a lot of reasonable reasons have restricted this with signs posted no trespassing, so you do have to be mindful. Pipeline crews are pretty ad hoc and don't care as much, but don't gently caress with the railroads, heh. I went walking down a railroad track around my hometown that I used to walk down as a kid and ended up in a friendly conversation with a sheriff's deputy who had been called by a train engineer who called after he spotted me when I backed about 10 feet off the track to let the train pass. Sheriffs are elected and my address is local, so he was very cool, but basically told me, look, I'm not gonna do poo poo, but if they send out the BNSF police they will cite you or haul you in, so probably don't do this. I looked it up and if you google BNSF police, sure enough, God bless our railway-built state, they have actual legal authority through a patchwork of agreements. This reminds me of the insanity of railroad minerals. When the government was trying to encourage railroad companies to build their lines across the country, they granted the companies a checkerboard of every other square mile for 5 or 10 miles along the railroad tracks. This was right in the early days of the oil industry, so no one thought much able the acreage, but those railway companies became massive oil companies. Burlington Northern created Burlington Resources (bought by ConocoPhillips), Union Pacific formed Union Pacific Resources (bought by Anadarko and now owned by Oxy), and Chevron owns a ton of railroad minerals out in west Texas. The government gave these companies tens of billions of dollars in land thinking it was at best bad farmland or for grazing cattle.
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# ? Jul 25, 2020 14:54 |
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i say swears online posted:edit declared a cat 1! new path has it shifting south, valley still on the backside of the spin. probably the least populated place in the entire state for a hurricane to hit. amazing And yet there's still 50 people in a trailer park on Baffin Bay that refused to leave last night and are probably going to be blown/washed away this afternoon.
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# ? Jul 25, 2020 14:56 |
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Will the anti mask crew come out hard against Brazoria County for infringing their rights to drive straight into flood waters? https://twitter.com/BrazoriaCounty/status/1287018531566034945?s=19
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# ? Jul 25, 2020 15:11 |
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https://mobile.twitter.com/RepStickland/status/1286656308096245761
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so is Houston gonna get anything from Hannah or just the edge bits? No one here seems that worried and we've been having on and off rain already, just wondering if I should be keeping an eye on poo poo or if this is just normal Houston rainy weekend poo poo
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sexpig by night posted:so is Houston gonna get anything from Hannah or just the edge bits? No one here seems that worried and we've been having on and off rain already, just wondering if I should be keeping an eye on poo poo or if this is just normal Houston rainy weekend poo poo nah you're fine
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# ? Jul 25, 2020 16:32 |
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IT BURNS posted:
Like seriously how does this hospital keep getting away with poo poo like that? Oh right ultra powerful politically connected family. https://www.texasmonthly.com/politics/rio-grande-valley-texas-coronavirus-hot-spot/ It's almost 11 am there's been a light sprinkle so far, but just about 20 miles north of Pharr they're getting a lot of rain. Might even see the sun poke through.
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# ? Jul 25, 2020 16:55 |
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Hopefully it won’t be that bad because it sure couldn’t have picked a worse place to hit
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# ? Jul 25, 2020 17:03 |
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zoux posted:Hopefully it won’t be that bad because it sure couldn’t have picked a worse place to hit I got family in Kingsville and Corpus, most there aren't worried too much about a Cat 1 storm. What is sort of concerning is that it's slowed down some, and if that continues you're gonna see a lot of flooding as it makes it's way through ranch country and colonias that don't have proper drainage or sewer systems.
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# ? Jul 25, 2020 17:45 |
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I guess yesterday was 1 death less than the all time high, which was 2 days ago, so we've definitely flattened the curve and it's time to open schools
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zoux posted:https://mobile.twitter.com/PatrickSvitek/status/1286455427383865345 Whatever gets him rich
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# ? Jul 25, 2020 17:57 |
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zoux posted:https://mobile.twitter.com/PatrickSvitek/status/1286455427383865345 It's pretty loving weird that Donald Johnson from Verhoeven's "Robocop" managed to time travel and is running the GOP in Texas.
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# ? Jul 25, 2020 18:28 |
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zoux posted:Hopefully it won’t be that bad because it sure couldn’t have picked a worse place to hit there are a lot worse places for landfall than the king ranch
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# ? Jul 25, 2020 19:11 |
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Oil! posted:This reminds me of the insanity of railroad minerals. When the government was trying to encourage railroad companies to build their lines across the country, they granted the companies a checkerboard of every other square mile for 5 or 10 miles along the railroad tracks. This was right in the early days of the oil industry, so no one thought much able the acreage, but those railway companies became massive oil companies. Burlington Northern created Burlington Resources (bought by ConocoPhillips), Union Pacific formed Union Pacific Resources (bought by Anadarko and now owned by Oxy), and Chevron owns a ton of railroad minerals out in west Texas. The government gave these companies tens of billions of dollars in land thinking it was at best bad farmland or for grazing cattle. One thing I've discovered, if you know a good surveryor that's been at it for generations, or really has studied the charts dating back, they can give this entirely land-based history of how Texas became Texas that's completely fascinating and a shitload of it starts with, "Well, to get the railroads to build..." i say swears online posted:there are a lot worse places for landfall than the king ranch I was supposed to be in Corpus this weekend, a trip that has been canceled for 4 separate loving occurrences starting with a pandemic, now including a hurricane. I can't wait to see where this goes next. "Hey you really shouldn't go because there's an asteroid gonna hit the Coastal Bend." maybe. Anyway, hurricane party - appropriate music: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsvQgOKR1O4 \/\/\/ ReindeerF fucked around with this message at 20:38 on Jul 25, 2020 |
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ReindeerF posted:"Hey you really shouldn't go because there's an asteroid gonna hit the Coastal Bend." i'm from port aransas and i say kill 'em all!
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ReindeerF posted:I was supposed to be in Corpus this weekend, a trip that has been canceled for 4 separate loving occurrences starting with a pandemic, now including a hurricane. I can't wait to see where this goes next. "Hey you really shouldn't go because there's an asteroid gonna hit the Coastal Bend." maybe. Trip to Corpus canceled due to Corpus being Corpus.
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# ? Jul 25, 2020 21:12 |
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I mean honestly, yeah. It could've been us up here, I guess. Possession arrow, us.
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# ? Jul 25, 2020 21:14 |
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It looks like it may dump 10-20 inches of rain on the RGV which is getting absolutely hammered by COVID. Adding a flood on top of that may be devastating. https://twitter.com/mattlanza/status/1287126080135077889?s=19
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# ? Jul 25, 2020 22:16 |
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Not to mention, if it gets that bad, the crops will be ferkakte. Ag took a heavy hit already from many factors related to the pandemic, but in addition to it being a clusterbomb of infection vectors in many cases, it also is how a shitload of people down that way make their living. RGV is constantly planting and harvesting, but if they lose a season of anything right now, probably not great for anyone involved.
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# ? Jul 25, 2020 22:57 |
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Off topic but the Whataburger app has delivery now, and it's quite fast. You get points and free food too. I may never visit an actual Whataburger location again.
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# ? Jul 25, 2020 23:02 |
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smoobles posted:Off topic but the Whataburger app has delivery now, and it's quite fast. You get points and free food too. I may never visit an actual Whataburger location again. EDIT: Also unrelated, but this sounds like every "rednecks got rich" gone bad story from out here in rural Texas lol: https://www.chron.com/houston/article/Third-Ward-s-Turkey-Lug-Hut-is-in-the-middle-of-15428999.php quote:Business partners who co-own the restaurant are in the middle of two lawsuits that accuse each other of stealing money for personal gain, fraud and other explosive claims, according to Eater Houston. ReindeerF fucked around with this message at 23:07 on Jul 25, 2020 |
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Sab0921 posted:It looks like it may dump 10-20 inches of rain on the RGV which is getting absolutely hammered by COVID. Adding a flood on top of that may be devastating. Is there a Hurricane Season thread on these wife beatin' forums?
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Turrurrurrurrrrrrr posted:Is there a Hurricane Season thread on these wife beatin' forums? There's the general weather thread
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