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Gotta say, I'm liking Crestoria so far. I got Repede in my first 10-pull so the game knows what I want.
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I should finish berseria some day, huh Although since my only beef with the game was being unable to handle the combat system as well as i want to, i doubt resuming a 50 hour save is going to go over very well.
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Jul 24, 2020 13:02
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ApplesandOranges posted:I'm okay with the directions most of Xillia's cast goes, although Elize going back to using Teepo again is kinda lame since the whole point of Xillia's ending was her not needing to use him anymore. but i agree that itd be nice if theyd made a new animation set for elize without him
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Jul 24, 2020 13:10
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Isn't Teepo still also one of those magical crystal things than amp up magic power? He's still got combat use to her. My only real issue with Xillia 2's plot is that Alvin doesn't betray you again in some comical fashion.
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Jul 24, 2020 13:27
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:Isn't Teepo still also one of those magical crystal things than amp up magic power? He's still got combat use to her.
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Jul 24, 2020 13:29
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:Isn't Teepo still also one of those magical crystal things than amp up magic power? He's still got combat use to her. They even did a ton of “what if?” dimensions so they could have had Alvin do that easily
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Jul 24, 2020 14:20
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For a fanservice sequel, Xillia 2 is such a grim and depressing game. I did wish it went all the way with its use of alternate dimensions because it had some interesting concepts but then kind of half-assed the execution.
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Jul 24, 2020 14:42
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the only thing i don't like about the alt dimensions thing is how they make you blow up the world where leia and agria are girlfriends
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Jul 24, 2020 15:13
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I didn't like how they condemn multiple realities of billions of people to nonexistence with little more than an 'eh what are you gonna do'. You basically play as Emet-Selch in FF14 Shaowbringers.
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Jul 24, 2020 15:20
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Xillia 2 was written by the same person as Zestiria and Berseria, and he has this thing about human lives as an existential threat to some kind of great cosmic balance, I think.
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Jul 24, 2020 16:33
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ApplesandOranges posted:I'm okay with the directions most of Xillia's cast goes, although Elize going back to using Teepo again is kinda lame since the whole point of Xillia's ending was her not needing to use him anymore. Teepo's needed for her to fight properly, But she does not need him in normal life. The only reason he is around is because Elize wanted to show him to some of her friends at school.
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Jul 24, 2020 16:41
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i wonder if they'd ever get sawako natori to write a tales game again all these years later after drakengard and nier it'd be funny to contrast a modern natori tales script with tales of destiny 2, now that she's generally a more accomplished writer
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Jul 24, 2020 19:42
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The Colonel posted:the only thing i don't like about the alt dimensions thing is how they make you blow up the world where leia and agria are girlfriends Yeah, this and some of the other ones you blow up are just sad. Like it's kinda grimdark for the sake of 'yup, you just killed off a bunch of your alternate selves where they were truly happy. Isn't this edgy?'
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Jul 24, 2020 19:44
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*kills billions of people* But Elle/Ludger dying to plot holes is the real tragedy people.
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Jul 24, 2020 20:44
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Elle sucks. Save your brother instead 
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Jul 24, 2020 20:56
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i like elle more
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Jul 24, 2020 21:08
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Elle is a good kid and very powerful in post-battle skits.
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Xillia 2 actually sucks because Ludger is a silent protagonist for some reason and has special powers that make him very strong and also annoying in multi player scenarios.
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Jul 25, 2020 02:24
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He's only silent on new game!
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Jul 25, 2020 03:07
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ludger being a silent protagonist is worth it just for the gag at tales fest where they had the audience vote on what ludger's va should say during the live skits
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Jul 25, 2020 03:22
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I need to see this.
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Jul 25, 2020 06:12
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Question: How do you feel about Crestoria's original cast (Kanata, Misella, Vicious, Aegis, Yuna, Orwin) and the story/world?
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Jul 25, 2020 06:13
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OneDeadman posted:Elle is a good kid and very powerful in post-battle skits. The one thing Xillia 2 has over Berseria i would say. There are some good ones in Bersi but none as good as Leia wacking Milla in the thighs with her staff
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Jul 25, 2020 07:17
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ApplesandOranges posted:Yeah, this and some of the other ones you blow up are just sad. Like it's kinda grimdark for the sake of 'yup, you just killed off a bunch of your alternate selves where they were truly happy. Isn't this edgy?' And then after blowing up more worlds for minor side quests the party is just  the rest of the game.
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Jul 25, 2020 07:44
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Junpei posted:Question: How do you feel about Crestoria's original cast (Kanata, Misella, Vicious, Aegis, Yuna, Orwin) and the story/world? I’ve seen a number of dudes who got like weirdly violently angry at me on the internet over me not liking how busy Velvet’s outfit was be like super viscerally upset about Vicious’s outfit, so tbh he’s leading the pack on my favorites. Also because he does not give a gently caress and is just happy to be shooting things. Kanata is kind of feeling like the same Lloyd/Sorey/Asbel well-meaning dumbass protagonist type but he’s fine. Misella so far seems a little shallow and her whole thing is “loves Kanata/meat/fire” but hopefully she gets more to her at some point. Aegis sucks until he joins the party and now I like him a lot just based on his skits. I like the story overall, it’s pretty grim but it’s nice that Vicious actually kills villains himself instead of letting them gently caress off. He’s a man of action! And guns.
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Jul 25, 2020 07:53
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From what I’ve seen everyone loves Vicious. I don’t think I’ve seen anyone complain about his design tbh.
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Jul 25, 2020 08:38
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I'll probably do a longer writeup later but my overall thoughts is that the part of Crestoria that wants to be a Tales game is good and the part of Crestoria that wants to be a gacha is a lousy, unfinished mess.
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Jul 25, 2020 09:09
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Junpei posted:Question: How do you feel about Crestoria's original cast (Kanata, Misella, Vicious, Aegis, Yuna, Orwin) and the story/world? I like them and wish the story was done. I wish I would pull SSRs of the ones I'm missing as I do not give a single poo poo about the crossover stuff (or rather the crossover pulls, I like seeing some of the characters reimagined as living in this world, I just want the full party with mystic artes). Kanata is the well meaning dumbass as HellOnEarth says, but they seem to be using that to show off interesting things and ideas within the world they're building so it doesn't come off as boring as it normally does and the mask kind of falls occasionally when he's around Vicious. Also how many of the Tales characters that fit this archetype murdered the gently caress out of their dad, the child slaver? I like Misella. She does kind of fall into a few specific one-note bits but I like the idea of her pretending that Kanata is their savior because she adores his unrealistic ideals and is super worried about how the world (and Vicious) is going to corrupt those ideals. Vicious is cool. I like him being the sort of "evil" mentor to Kanata and just sort of going along with his bullshit. Also appreciate... HellOnEarth posted:that Vicious actually kills villains himself instead of letting them gently caress off. He's a man of action! And guns. ...and that everyone else in chapter 4 was also like yeah let's gank that rear end in a top hat, gently caress him Aegis is kinda like Flynn except if you gave him actual presence and a story to evolve in. I feel like I've seen the archetype of person who was on the inside getting super betrayed so now "who do I trust?" a little too much before but the scope of how he got ratfucked and how he didn't take long to stop being insufferable about it give me hope for him in the future. Haven't seen enough of Yuna or Orwin to care that much yet. Once again wish this wasn't a mobile game because "turn on auto and fast forward until the mission is done" isn't particularly compelling gameplay. It is the first time anybody has gotten me to "play" a game like this for longer than an hour though, so kudos to the writer and composer.
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Jul 25, 2020 09:30
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The Misella-Vicious dynamic is great.
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Jul 25, 2020 13:33
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frankly i wish crestoria was the plot of arise because its way more interesting than the premise weve heard for arise tho weve heard so little about arise so entirely possible it winds up more interesting
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Jul 25, 2020 13:58
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I have always been slightly skeeved out by anime and video games that have female characters that either are or are mystically tied to a male character's weapon. It's almost literal objectification.
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Jul 25, 2020 18:29
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i feel like that's common enough regardless of gender that it's never stuck out to me particularly i mean you can certainly play it really weirdly but not that the concept is rotten at the core.
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Jul 25, 2020 18:31
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Hellioning posted:I have always been slightly skeeved out by anime and video games that have female characters that either are or are mystically tied to a male character's weapon. like in the tales series only one of the swordians is female (and used by a woman), and in tales of innocence spada's a guy. and in a broader sense like, soul eater had both male and female weapons. and the idea of important and powerful objects having spirits or human forms is pretty ingrained into shintoism and is definitely not objectification since its very much neutral there, and I imagine that's where a lot of these ideas come from.
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Jul 25, 2020 18:37
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Hell, Tales already had Zestiria, and Mikleo basically exists to give Sorey a powered-up fusion form that doesn't bring in an entire separate character but one that wants and cares about all the same things he does. Not to mention Lailah very much is on the wielding end of Sorey's dependence on her both as a team boss and a fire sword. Also Shionne still has a gun. e: in absolute seriousness Arise returning to the boy meets girl template did kind of worry me for a bit but even from what we know, Alphen isn't just an ordinary good boy and Shionne isn't just a source of power/motivation, they both have enough background and issues of their own for me to be at least cautiously optimistic that they'll have some kind of actual partnership Caphi fucked around with this message at 19:06 on Jul 25, 2020 |
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Endorph posted:and the idea of important and powerful objects having spirits or human forms is pretty ingrained into shintoism and is definitely not objectification since its very much neutral there, and I imagine that's where a lot of these ideas come from. It's literally de-objectification: it supposes that objects are also people.
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Jul 25, 2020 20:54
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Would that mean the only way to objectify is to literally hit someone with another character
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Jul 25, 2020 20:57
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I dunno, the thing that worries me most is that it feels like the ideas are leading to the most obvious and painfully boring hurt/comfort fic ever. Shionne, angstily: Everyone I touch gets hurt... I must be cold and distant so nobody can get close... Alphen, coldly: I can't feel pain. --------- Alphen, after some major plot development: Is this... pain? Shionne, sadly: Oh no... now we cannot be together again...
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Jul 25, 2020 21:34
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Clarste posted:It's literally de-objectification: it supposes that objects are also people. Animism? Also I'm less invested in new Tales games than I am about bringing old games back to modern consoles. By which I mean I really want Graces f on the Switch/PC.
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Jul 25, 2020 21:38
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Xillia 2 gets a pass because Ludger is a blast to play. An overpowered mess, but a fun overpowered mess. Crestoria (Cresty?) has a neat premise and I want to see where they're going with this.
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I wish I could stand playing Crestoria for more than 10 minutes but alas gatcha game
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