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yaffle posted:Apparently a livestream of the three gorges with all the sluice gates fully open, it's been going for a few hours at least. It's almost midnight in China right now, so it's hard to see anything. But that does look like a LOT of water being released.
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NASA released an official congratulation to the PRC for the Mars launch and it is precision guided to hurt Chinese Facequote:“With today’s launch, China is on its way to join the community of international scientific explorers at Mars,” Bridenstine tweeted. “The United States, Europe, Russia, India, and soon the UAE will welcome you to Mars to embark on an exciting year of scientific discovery. Safe travels Tianwen-1!”
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4/5, could’ve called it Taiwan-1 and pleaded auto-correct.
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The mere acknowledgement that India (and if all goes well, the UAE) in particular beat them to Mars is a massive humiliation considering how racist the CCP is. They can process "white countries" beating them but South Asians and Arabs also beating them causes brains to break
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Fojar38 posted:The mere acknowledgement that India (and if all goes well, the UAE) in particular beat them to Mars is a massive humiliation considering how racist the CCP is. They can process "white countries" beating them but South Asians and Arabs also beating them causes brains to break India is easily the third best space program in the world right now, possibly the second best.
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Lazyhound posted:4/5, could’ve called it Taiwan-1 and pleaded auto-correct.
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Maybe I am misunderstanding "face" and all that jazz, (because I am a foreigner, and only spent 2 1/2 years in China, so I cannot possibly understand). But I don't think that tweet will particularly hurt the feelings of the CCP. Yes, I can see the pointed language, designed to belittle and mock the rocket, it's just that I don't think the CCP will care too much about that. They got a congratulatory tweet from the unnamed country. This shows how wonderful and awesome the Chinest Space Program is! They wish they could do what we are doing, (even though they have done it before and are even saying so.) etc. Look at how the CCP reacted to their demonstrably pissweak and insulting 2 grimy boxes of masks sent as "aid" to Syria(I think?). The fact that it was lovely was not the point, the point was great and glorious China did something, and had a photo of middle manager-type officials in front of it. Any thing else is just western propaganda and jealousy. So whilst I do think the tweet is pointedly funny, the CCP is far to far up it's own arse to care or even notice.
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Honestly, what China's space program is accomplishing is impressive. Space is hard, and getting to Mars at all is pretty impressive. A lot of countries beat them there but only 3 (US, Russia, India) can do it all on their own without a partner. That said, I can't root for them when they are coupled to such an incredibly lovely government. Building their launch systems in such a way to endanger people when something goes wrong. Using their space program to advance rocket weaponry in such an irresponsible way. They're stated desire to colonize and capitalize ownership of major celestial bodies. It's a loving shame.
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The junk collector posted:A lot of countries beat them there but only 3 (US, Russia, India) can do it all on their own without a partner. China also has foreign partners for this mission, most notably Austria
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Fojar38 posted:China also has foreign partners for this mission, most notably Austria Which mission, the one to mars or the one to liquidate disharmonious undesirables? Because those are both right up certain Austrian alleys.
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whats that word where you stand around gawking in a huge group at something uninteresting?
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Rubbernecking?
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to go where the interesting things are
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snergle posted:whats that word where you stand around gawking in a huge group at something uninteresting? tennis?
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Flannelette posted:tennis? golf!
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snergle posted:whats that word where you stand around gawking in a huge group at something uninteresting? Kan ren niao?
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snergle posted:whats that word where you stand around gawking in a huge group at something uninteresting?
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Tupperwarez posted:看热闹, kan4 re4 nao4 看熱鬧
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The junk collector posted:Honestly, what China's space program is accomplishing is impressive. Space is hard, and getting to Mars at all is pretty impressive. A lot of countries beat them there but only 3 (US, Russia, India) can do it all on their own without a partner. That said, I can't root for them when they are coupled to such an incredibly lovely government. Building their launch systems in such a way to endanger people when something goes wrong. Using their space program to advance rocket weaponry in such an irresponsible way. They're stated desire to colonize and capitalize ownership of major celestial bodies. It's a loving shame. They have to get rid of those ride sharing bikes somehow. Might as well try to setup a franchise and cook the books. "Getting to Mars" is easy. You just need a big enough rocket. Landing on Mar is the really hard part. Only Soviet Russia and NASA has made successful landings. ESA did land a probe which failed to deploy. Up until recently their rockets have been bigger versions ICBMs with face melting propellants as they didn't have the tech for anything else. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDX5jRo27JY
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snergle posted:whats that word where you stand around gawking in a huge group at something uninteresting? Chinathread.
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oohhboy posted:"Getting to Mars" is easy. You just need a big enough rocket. Landing on Mar is the really hard part. Only Soviet Russia and NASA has made successful landings. ESA did land a probe which failed to deploy. Getting to Mars is actually quite hard, it doesn't take much of an error to miss entirely when going to another planet. A number of missions have failed to ever arrive. Landing is brutally difficult, NASA's still the only agency that has landed a functioning probe. Mars is the worst of all worlds for landings. Too much atmosphere to just ignore it and land like you would on the Moon, but the atmosphere is also so thin you can't just parachute down like you're doing an Earth entry. Also it all has to be pre-programmed and done automatically given light delay. Only about half the missions sent to Mars have succeeded. I won't be surprised at all if the UAE and China ones fail, it's not an easy thing to do.
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Grand Fromage posted:Getting to Mars is actually quite hard, it doesn't take much of an error to miss entirely when going to another planet. A number of missions have failed to ever arrive. Landing is brutally difficult, NASA's still the only agency that has landed a functioning probe. Mars is the worst of all worlds for landings. Too much atmosphere to just ignore it and land like you would on the Moon, but the atmosphere is also so thin you can't just parachute down like you're doing an Earth entry. Also it all has to be pre-programmed and done automatically given light delay. Only about half the missions sent to Mars have succeeded. I won't be surprised at all if the UAE and China ones fail, it's not an easy thing to do. *smashes into ganymede* "but we used the exact same landing sequence sto lent to us by nasa"
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Getting to Mars is quite hard, although at a certain point is fundamentally just about math and timing, which the Chinese outsourced to Europe and Brazil in terms of coordinating its orbital trajectory to reach Mars Now it's all about the quality of the hardware that they sent, and while the scientific instruments on the rover are mostly foreign, all of the other stuff is presumably Chinese, which uhh The challenge now is "can it get to Mars without being ruined by interplanetary radiation"
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Is there any actual data about the dam available? It's hard to find any real info between outlets friendly to the CCP saying everything is perfectly fine because their dam is invincible and outlets hostile to the CCP saying it's bent like wet spaghetti and will fail any second now
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bonelessdongs posted:Is there any actual data about the dam available? It's hard to find any real info between outlets friendly to the CCP saying everything is perfectly fine because their dam is invincible and outlets hostile to the CCP saying it's bent like wet spaghetti and will fail any second now It's China, there's no data, you just have to wait for an outcome.
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bonelessdongs posted:Is there any actual data about the dam available? It's hard to find any real info between outlets friendly to the CCP saying everything is perfectly fine because their dam is invincible and outlets hostile to the CCP saying it's bent like wet spaghetti and will fail any second now Vesi posted:It's China, there's no data, you just have to wait for an outcome. pretty much this. that's what happens when no one listens to official data while their credibility went negative long ago. until it went kaboom
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Vesi posted:It's China, there's no data, you just have to wait for an outcome. Honestly surprised that they don't just skip the press releases until they have a successful landing/ transmission/whatever. Then when the mission is a success they just play the highlight reel.
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Oh no it blew https://youtu.be/8FfFbQHaFm0
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This might be of value in the bad China thread Fojar as to Germany's position on China. Hint "engagement" and corporate lobbying. https://www.rusi.org/commentary/germanys-china-policy-change-through-trade-has-failed Merkle is getting blasted by everyone. https://www.businessinsider.com.au/german-chancellor-angela-merkel-accused-too-close-to-china-2020-7?r=US&IR=T Also Trump gonna Trump. He doesn't care nor understand foreign policy. The idea one would analysis his moves other than grift, his idea of "Winning", raw wilful unashamed ignorance, generous helpings of racism and protecting his ego, to look strong at all costs is an exercise in pointlessness. He literally thinks tear gassing protestors for a photo op at a church or sending goons to Portland makes him look strong. His entire response to the ccp virus. Almost every decision can be traced to those things. Even his current reversal is window dressing, he ain't being sombre, his ego finally took a hit. His trade war was to look strong and personal gains never the economics. All the aggressive moves on China are clearly not from him but everyone around him. Years back I thought he was mercurial, I was very wrong. Dandywalken posted:Oh no it blew They played it too straight lacking cheese that even primitive FMVs could provide in spades.
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oohhboy posted:This might be of value in the bad China thread Fojar as to Germany's position on China. Hint "engagement" and corporate lobbying. Thanks for the support, although I don't think it really matters what evidence I post at this point, since the only people who reply are also the people that aren't receptive to evidence. Like they literally just pretend I didn't post evidence, and then reiterate "Why won't you post any evidence?" At best I get "Why won't you post any TRUE evidence" which is obviously defining "true" as "things that reaffirm the position I already hold."
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Fojar38 posted:"Why won't you post any TRUE evidence"
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If you are going to dive into that much filth do it with some PPE.
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The D&D thread isn't the overtly fascist one, that's the C-SPAM thread. The D&D thread comprises mostly people who are reasonably intelligent but whose sum knowledge of China and macroeconomics comes down to the fact that they read When China Rules The World and a lot of Economist articles circa 2011 and haven't updated their views since. I believe that these people can have their views changed, although obviously there are still people who can't on account of their Terminal Posting Syndrome
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Completely appropos of nothing: Does anybody here know of any good/famous Chinese cartoons? I know of Xi Yang Yang. The cartoon where a bunch of goats live in a field and occasionally a wolf, (who is constantly beaten by his wife), tries to catch them.    And Boonie Bears, where two big brown bears live in the woods and spoil the attempts of what looks to me like a French Canadian logger to chop down trees.  But are there other ones as big or famous? Even with my high school students, (when I was in Fuzhou a couple of years ago), I could always use Xi Yang Yang as a reference, so I was wondering if there were others.
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BrigadierSensible posted:Does anybody here know of any good/famous Chinese cartoons? I hear Naruto is pretty popular
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It's d0rAeMon awful app keeps crashing when I attach the eggish doraemon from this biased blog thingy http://orientals.web.fc2.com/
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