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Part of my problem with the Brian/KJA books is that they’re basically all in service of setting up the goddamn robots so they can show up in the finale for Dune Proper. Even the House books that are lightest on it have all the Ixian thinking machine stuff bashing you over the head. It was bearable when I read them in high school and didn’t know where all the failson books were going but it really stands out now
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*taps forcefully on thread title* Ahem
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Jul 26, 2020 22:00
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Jul 26, 2020 22:59
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Remember how Star Wars nerds are so goddamned obsessive that they even gave this background nobody from Empire: a fully fleshed out backstory? The failson House XYZ trilogy is three novels' worth of exactly that kind of poo poo
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Jul 26, 2020 23:53
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Murray Mantoinette posted:Remember how Star Wars nerds are so goddamned obsessive that they even gave this background nobody from Empire: Lol they turned his beloved ice cream maker into some kind of valuables safe too iirc.
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vortmax posted:ULTRASPICE I literally laughed out loud when I read the wiki summaries of the failson books and got to that part
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Jul 27, 2020 02:37
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LORD CYBERTREX 9000 is an incredible joke to me because it can be read as the dumbass cyber trex or cyber t-rex and both are funny as gently caress
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Jul 27, 2020 02:46
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Phlegmish posted:So are the 'failson' books really bad, or is it just classic goon snobbery? Are there more examples of failing to grasp the point? As someone who enjoys reading cheap schlock at times, including some of the failson books, it's not snobbery, they are indeed trash. Along with what everyone else has said they're filled with 2-dimensional characters who are obtuse and stupid in order to service the plot. I try to find something to enjoy in everything I read, and they're not completely worthless as long as you don't take them seriously or have any kind of expectations.
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Jul 27, 2020 03:11
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They brought back every major character back as Gholas. They had one named PAULO for fucks sake. Remember how there was a Luke Skywalker clone and they just loving named him " Luuke"?
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Jul 27, 2020 04:01
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priznat posted:Lol they turned his beloved ice cream maker into some kind of valuables safe too iirc. That was an amusing Easter egg in the Mandalorian, not some major plot point though
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Jul 27, 2020 04:05
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The Bloop posted:That was an amusing Easter egg in the Mandalorian, not some major plot point though Oh that’s right, I recall that. Was it a reference to some wookiepedia weirdness though is the question..
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Jul 27, 2020 04:14
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Johnny Aztec posted:Remember how there was a Luke Skywalker clone and they just loving named him " Luuke"? please do not compare the thrawn trilogy to @Duneauthor
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FBS posted:please do not compare the thrawn trilogy to @Duneauthor Thrawn stuff was not KJA but Timothy Zahn who wrote much better stuff. KJA brought us the dumb clones and yet another stupid superweapon. This one blows up stars!
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Jul 27, 2020 06:34
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It's Kralizec today and I'm 3,500 You know what that means... BRING IT IN GUYS!!!! *every ghola of every character from every major house, original, prequel, or sequel novel comes in with everything for a HUGE battle*
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Jul 27, 2020 06:35
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Murray Mantoinette posted:It's Kralizec today and I'm 3,500 Kralizec is the typhoon struggle, typhoon means "big wind" in Chinese. Screw gross protuberances, how does the god emperor fart?
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Jul 27, 2020 06:47
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Frank Herbert, Dune posted:He inhaled, smelling the rank sweetness. The odor was much richer around him than it had been.
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Jul 27, 2020 06:54
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don't forget when KJA copied the "Luukke" or w/e storyline from star wars, almost pat, in dune with the whole Paolo thing
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Jul 27, 2020 09:05
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Honestly the worst thing about the bad books is that neither man has never heard of "show, don't tell". It is just description after description, characters explaining motivations, shock reveals that contradict earlier passages, just tedious to read
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Jul 27, 2020 09:33
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yaffle posted:Kralizec is the typhoon struggle, typhoon means "big wind" in Chinese. Screw gross protuberances, how does the god emperor fart? He explicitly spends most of the time farting when in the desert with Siona
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exmachina posted:Honestly the worst thing about the bad books is that neither man has never heard of "show, don't tell". It is just description after description, characters explaining motivations, shock reveals that contradict earlier passages, just tedious to read Contrast this with Frank's books where even someone's inner monologue might require you to read it over several times to actually get the full scope of their thoughts or concerns.
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Jul 27, 2020 13:48
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Thunder Moose posted:Rereading for the 10th time at least - do they ever explain the shield wall? Is it literally a force-field wall? If so - worms don't go bananas because ________? A shield is a type of geological formation, mostly very old rock that hasn't been hosed up by tectonic events and has eroded by other means over a long long time. In the books it is like a plateau or a mesa with a massive depression in the center of it, forming a rock wall around arrakeen that worms, beefswoolen as they might get, can't go through. Then Paul goes and plays neeneer neeneer I'm not nuking you I'm nuking the rock around you and destroys an irreplaceable natural wonder like the cock that he is.
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Well after being resolved to stop at G-E I made the gin-based decision to see if I can finish the whole series during summer quarantine. We'll see what happens
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Jul 27, 2020 16:54
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Heretics and chapterhouse are pretty fun imo
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Jul 27, 2020 21:20
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Heretics is a straight-up fun book. Probably tied with God Emperor for my second favorite. Chapterhouse doesn’t go anywhere and kills off the best character Odrade so it is low on the fun quotient.
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Jul 27, 2020 21:38
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Even disregarding the way of the knife, I kinda like the way that Chapterhouse Dune ends.
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Jul 27, 2020 22:09
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Remember that time the Skinny Baron raped Reverend Mother Helen Mohiam and to pay him back she gave him obesity with her magic pussy Failson can't even do magic pussy right.
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Jul 27, 2020 22:12
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Don't forget that the Baron raped her because she was incapacitated. This goddess-like specimen of physical prowess and subtle observation was incapacitated because Piter hid behind the door as she came into a room a surprised-tasered her.
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Jul 27, 2020 23:15
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Oh and remember how the Old Duke was killed by a bull in the ring? And Frank makes several references to his showmanship and love of spectacle, so you'd think he just went a bit overboard showing off and zigged when he should have zagged? Nope! Turns out a Harkonnen agent gave the bull some kind of bovine PCP right before the bullfight and that's why the Old Duke got got yes that's in the prequels my god I hate failson
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Jul 27, 2020 23:32
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[No @Duneauthor Zone] needs to be strictly and harshly enforced. This sort of posting is totally unacceptable.
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Jul 27, 2020 23:50
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Release the trailer then
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Jul 27, 2020 23:51
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They who control the trailer, control the megathread
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Jul 28, 2020 00:02
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Murray Mantoinette posted:Don't forget that the Baron raped her because she was incapacitated. This goddess-like specimen of physical prowess and subtle observation was incapacitated because Piter hid behind the door as she came into a room a surprised-tasered her. Like ... that is honestly the stupidest thing Of all the dumb poo poo posted that he’s written that is the dumbest I think It’s dumber than cybersex 3000
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Looks like Tenet is scheduled for release in US on Labor Day, 1 week after international release, just in time for the entire US economy to collapse. Hard for me to imagine Dune making December at this point but the longer they wait the more money they lose. Studio system is just sitting there with its head in the sand hoping the real world doesn't happen. The big budget blockbuster cinema of the last 20 years is on the verge of dying harder than the studio system collapse of the 70s literally overnight, there's just no way to reliably continue the model of trying for huge opening week box crowd returns, that financial model has breathed its last breath for years to come. atp studios and distributors are basically going to have to commit to scheduling film runs to extend out 6 months like back in the old days, and poo poo, might as well bring back drive-ins while they're at it. It's gonna get wild, they're gonna have to take way greater risks with content because the youth audience that's been lapping up PG13 marvel trash like candy will be too broke to even remotely bother with theaters.
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The dune(s) are really the only major movie i care about seeing, ive got criterion channel and pluto and tubi are free so I have more than a lifetime of old and good movies to see. I just need to be duncd
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Is it ever explained who is hunting the Honored Matres, other than that they're former subjects of theirs? I thought it was linked to the Futars, but apparently those were created by the Bene Tleilax.
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Isn't that a bit of a lie and they were basically overthrown by their subject populations? The main intimations are a) that b) the krazilek forces Leto and Muad'dib saw, or c) some sort of Bene Teliaxu off-shoot
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It's aliens Set to re-unite humanity But then Frank died
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BeanpolePeckerwood posted:Looks like Tenet is scheduled for release in US on Labor Day, 1 week after international release, just in time for the entire US economy to collapse. Hard for me to imagine Dune making December at this point but the longer they wait the more money they lose. Studio system is just sitting there with its head in the sand hoping the real world doesn't happen. The big budget blockbuster cinema of the last 20 years is on the verge of dying harder than the studio system collapse of the 70s literally overnight, there's just no way to reliably continue the model of trying for huge opening week box crowd returns, that financial model has breathed its last breath for years to come. atp studios and distributors are basically going to have to commit to scheduling film runs to extend out 6 months like back in the old days, and poo poo, might as well bring back drive-ins while they're at it. It's gonna get wild, they're gonna have to take way greater risks with content because the youth audience that's been lapping up PG13 marvel trash like candy will be too broke to even remotely bother with theaters. James Bond might flop. Like, that seems loving crazy to me. And super sad for a bunch of reasons. I was happy to see when we went to the cinema last week (in England) to a showing of Interstellar and a showing of The Dark Knight that both were more full than I'd have expected for reruns, let alone during lockdown, but y'know, my sample size of 'one cinema' isn't exactly indicative.
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Those movies suck. All hail ⊃∪∩⊂
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