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galenanorth posted:https://www.indiewire.com/2020/02/star-trek-picard-twist-most-violent-scene-icheb-seven-of-nine-1202212586/ Yeah, okay, having him be brutalised drives her motivation. But she just sees the aftermath - why do we, the audience, need to see his eyeball getting ripped out? You can't have him strapped down, screaming, while terrifying machines come towards him then cut away? And have him moaning and begging to die when Seven comes upon him? Even that would be more gratuitous than we need.
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IMO the worst thing about the Icheb death is that they put it at the beginning of the episode rather than at the end where it should have been Also I have very little expectation that Disco S3 will be good when the best characters from S2 won’t be around at all. I’m calling it now, we will absolutely meet the Dax host of the 31st century
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I wonder if they're going to do the Interstellar thing where their families left them messages over the years?
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Except that Jurati isn't that committed because the instant she's tested by the crew she folds. PS. Also dude you can't just spoil an entire post without giving some context as to what's under the black bars.
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Ramadu posted:im gonna say you're freaking out way too hard and should maybe take a break from trek if a drunk batleth injury is causing this level of meltdown Hell, in an episode of The Orville, the android cuts off a crewmember's leg in his sleep as a practical joke. Drunk in Space posted:I wonder if that scene was inspired by this cheerful little film: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjgHbRrnjhU (7:48 specifically) Jesus h christ that is hosed. UP. 
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galenanorth posted:
"-We hosed up -But then we hosed up more, but this time it was planned"
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Would’ve been better if they’d waited long enough for the original Bruce Maddox actor to join up. He’s teaching theatre or something now, but I don’t recall seeing anything mentioning whether they’d reached out to him to see if he’d still be interested in playing the part. It was cool seeing him pop up in The Shawshank Redemption too.
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"While breaking the story." That's the problem. If you're going to have a 10-episode prestige-style show, to my mind, you start with ten completed, coherent scripts. If on script four you realize that something isn't turning out the way you want, you go back and edit the other scripts to fit your change.
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Retrowave Joe posted:Would’ve been better if they’d waited long enough for the original Bruce Maddox actor to join up. He’s teaching theatre or something now, but I don’t recall seeing anything mentioning whether they’d reached out to him to see if he’d still be interested in playing the part. It was cool seeing him pop up in The Shawshank Redemption too. I don't think they even asked him, and when some site reached out he said some sad sounding thing about how he would have been interested. Which really sucks. It was weird too because the jobber androids that went rogue kind of looked like him to a degree that I always thought it had to be casting on purpose.
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If i was the original Maddox actor and I saw what they did to my character I wouldn’t have bothered
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TheCenturion posted:"While breaking the story." That's the problem.
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Zutaten posted:I don't think they even asked him, and when some site reached out he said some sad sounding thing about how he would have been interested. Which really sucks. It was weird too because the jobber androids that went rogue kind of looked like him to a degree that I always thought it had to be casting on purpose. Man that’s a shame. I had the same feeling you did about the androids and even did a comparison pic back then. I was so convinced they were gonna bring back the the OG Maddox when I saw 
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Discovery season 3 starts on October 15. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoLxTLwzHSw
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Welp, I'll take that flag as a confirmation that the story is going to be the exact bleak collapse-of-civilization nonsense we all expected. Oh well, nowhere to go but up.
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No but you see it's totally fine because it's not bleak because it's actually totally hopeful and optimistic because our heroes will manage to inspire a couple of people at the end.
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MikeJF posted:No but you see it's totally fine because it's not bleak because it's actually totally hopeful and optimistic because our heroes will manage to inspire a couple of people at the end. That's pretty much at least half of fiction with a dystopian setting I watched Ready Player One earlier this year, and it ended with the protagonists forbidding people from staying logged into VR on certain days, so that people will have to go out into the real world and change it, but that doesn't even address the possibility of a competitor VR company breaking the monopoly by offering VR access on those days In Snow Crash, the victory is only stopping the impending apocalypse on top of the dystopian setting, and the putz/pushover protagonist actualizing the computer-toucher materialist dream of starting his own company, with no improvement in society compared to how the story began at all galenanorth fucked around with this message at 17:07 on Jul 27, 2020 |
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gently caress it, I’ll take 23 weeks of new Trek.
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Screaming_Gremlin posted:Discovery season 3 starts on October 15. I wonder if that's Earth she's standing on, since that's definitely our old familiar Moon in the sky behind her. Of course, that doesn't necessarily mean much since the show freely re-uses worlds. Talos IV (pre-remaster, anyway) was also pretty clearly the Moon with some touch-ups painted on. 
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Powered Descent posted:I wonder if that's Earth she's standing on, since that's definitely our old familiar Moon in the sky behind her. I know I see recolored Mars crop up as alien planets in sci-fi all the time, which is incredibly distracting because of how easy it is to recognise once you know valles marineris, it's such a distinct feature.
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I'm interested in seeing how 100 people from the 23rd century can do jack poo poo to influence affairs in the 31st. At least Andromeda was a gently caress-off ship that could destroy stars.
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Thom12255 posted:I'm interested in seeing how 100 people from the 23rd century can do jack poo poo to influence affairs in the 31st. At least Andromeda was a gently caress-off ship that could destroy stars.
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They inadvertently infect the future with their spore drive causing the federation to go into lockdown and become xenophobic, this is never meaningfully fully resolved but there's a speech at the end before they return to the present about how they're going to stick to their principles
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Discovery 3:Senor Tron posted:I'm expecting it to be a fairly pedestrian "Federation got over-extended, fell apart, sad" storyline, but it would be wild if they surprised us with something like things falling apart due to much of the Federation population developing to the point of becoming proto-Q style beings, and loving off out of the affairs of mortals, with those left behind because they were either unwilling or unable to advance being in a Sci-Fi themed post-Rapture state. This idea is probably going to be a lot better than what we get.
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FlamingLiberal posted:The only thing that might be superior to 31st century tech is
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Tighclops posted:They inadvertently infect the future with their spore drive causing the federation to go into lockdown and become xenophobic, this is never meaningfully fully resolved but there's a speech at the end before they return to the present about how they're going to stick to their principles Please stop hurting meeeeeeeeeee it can't be real *runs away sobbing*
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Thom12255 posted:I'm interested in seeing how 100 people from the 23rd century can do jack poo poo to influence affairs in the 31st. At least Andromeda was a gently caress-off ship that could destroy stars. You see, what really led to the downfall was a lack of hope and inspiration. Sure they may not have technology, sure they may not have knowledge of political factions and diplomatic tensions for the past 800 years, sure they may not have a likeable crew, and sure they were conned for an entire season by (disco spoiler) a mirror universe genocidal maniac, but they have hope. It's hope. Hope will save the day. edit: whoops gently caress forgot the other components, they are (in order): faith, family, and uhhhhh, tenacity? those will stop the downfall of civilization or whatever.
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FlamingLiberal posted:Burnham constantly crying for 13 episodes will restore the Federation Her faith will restore hope in the universe. No don't ask what they mean specifically by faith, or what that faith is in, or how that faith motivates her and the people around her, it's just faith and it saves the day, don't question it.
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piratepilates posted:You see, what really led to the downfall was a lack of hope and inspiration. Sure they may not have technology, sure they may not have knowledge of political factions and diplomatic tensions for the past 800 years, sure they may not have a likeable crew, and sure they were conned for an entire season by (disco spoiler) a mirror universe genocidal maniac, but they have hope. So basically a bible? If they will bring back 'a book of hope' of some kind to unite the people...I dunno, I'll stab myself with my st tng combadge. If they will call it 'The Book of Michael' or 'the book of burnham' or else...I'll shove the combadge up my rear end.
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MrL_JaKiri posted:Likewise Hopkins in Thor: Ragnarok playing Loki playing Odin; you just kind of forget that it's their performance and not Picardo/Hiddlestone Misha Collins playing Mark Pelligrino's Lucifer in Supernatural. He was the only one who really nailed the character and made you believe it was the same person. piratepilates posted:Her faith will restore hope in the universe. Is it Of The Heart?
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Astroman posted:
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AntherUslessPoster posted:Please stop hurting meeeeeeeeeee it can't be real it's reeeaaalll don't you understand they cre ATED it and itsss REAAAAalllll aiiieeeeeeeeee, aiieeaarrrghh
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TheCenturion posted:If you're going to have a 10-episode prestige-style show, to my mind, you start with ten completed, coherent scripts. If on script four you realize that something isn't turning out the way you want, you go back and edit the other scripts to fit your change. Things can play out very differently in front of the camera than you expect from how a script reads. You don't want a situation where they're continually going back and making changes over and over and they wear everyone down and run out of budget. Actors and crew aren't robots, they start to feel defeated pretty quickly if there are too many changes or you have to go over the same thing many times. piratepilates posted:It's hope. Hope will save the day. I feel like 5 minutes ago everyone was making GBS threads on Discovery for being too modern grimdark, and now everyone's making GBS threads on it because they think it'll be too optimistic and hopeful, I just 
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Strong Convections posted:I feel like 5 minutes ago everyone was making GBS threads on Discovery for being too modern grimdark, and now everyone's making GBS threads on it because they think it'll be too optimistic and hopeful, I just the show is extremely bad and no one has any faith of the heart
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