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A domain-joined desktop password change came in... (The last couple of lines are not edited or redacted, they are exactly in the email my wife received after the attempt) RON HOWARD VOICE: the password DID get set in the directory system.
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Who the gently caress is still using Novell in TYOOL 2020?
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Jul 27, 2020 13:55
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I hope DSERR_DUPLICATE_PASSWORD does not mean "some different user is already using the same password".
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Jul 27, 2020 14:02
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My favorite class of error is the kind that suggests they're passing cleartext passwords around on the backend like one complexity dialog that said something like "forbidden characters: ', ), ;" uuuhhhhh buddy are you doing a raw SQL insert of this password
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Jul 27, 2020 14:08
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MJP posted:A domain-joined desktop password change came in... Lmfao Novell.
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Jul 27, 2020 14:13
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Mustache Ride posted:Who the gently caress is still using Novell in TYOOL 2020? We were using SunOne for a couple of services until early this year.
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Jul 27, 2020 14:18
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nielsm posted:I hope DSERR_DUPLICATE_PASSWORD does not mean "some different user is already using the same password".
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Jul 27, 2020 14:21
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Mustache Ride posted:Who the gently caress is still using Novell in TYOOL 2020? Oh god you would be surprised. I had a job at a former place that will go unnamed still using Novell and NOT actively looking to replace it. Direct quote from head of IT at that org "Microsoft is the 800 pound gorilla in the email world. Everyone will try to exploit Exchange and we can just sneak by cheaply with Novell!". I tried to explain that security through obscurity is generally frowned upon but he choose to ignore that bit of wisdom.
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Jul 27, 2020 14:22
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Ghostlight posted:it means the password is in the user's password history. based on the fact that it still changed the password it suggests they've managed to kludge their system so that it tries the reset multiple times. I once had to manage a system where you could have two users with the same user name, as long as they had different passwords.
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Jul 27, 2020 14:28
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Data Graham posted:My favorite class of error is the kind that suggests they're passing cleartext passwords around on the backend That's not all that uncommon and can easily be accomplished without the password being stored in plain text. Basically think of it like "the hashing function used will fail if it has any of those particular characters in it, either by design or because the hashing algorithm required for whatever device is poo poo." There's plenty of pieces of software that can't handle certain characters in passwords for various reasons that don't necessarily involve plain text password being stored anywhere. I'm not saying it's great design or that this absolves all of them or anything, but it's hardly uncommon either.
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Jul 27, 2020 14:38
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shortspecialbus posted:That's not all that uncommon and can easily be accomplished without the password being stored in plain text. Basically think of it like "the hashing function used will fail if it has any of those particular characters in it, either by design or because the hashing algorithm required for whatever device is poo poo." There's plenty of pieces of software that can't handle certain characters in passwords for various reasons that don't necessarily involve plain text password being stored anywhere. Maybe so, but if the only forbidden characters are the ones that you'd be filtering out to try to protect against Little Bobby Tables, I'm gonna be all hooooooboy.
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nielsm posted:I once had to manage a system where you could have two users with the same user name, as long as they had different passwords.
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Jul 27, 2020 14:59
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Mustache Ride posted:Who the gently caress is still using Novell in TYOOL 2020? They migrated my wife's workplace from Lotus Notes to Outlook just last year. They pushed out an O365 install in the middle of the day on a Thursday. The first step on company-made documentation to install some programs she and her department use is "1) Get local admin rights to your computer". The same documentation also walked the users through how to edit their hosts file and what to add/change for the program to work. Her office is a 10 minute commute and I've told her that I will never, ever apply for a job with this company unless I had a written guarantee that I could flatten the IT department and start from scratch.
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Jul 27, 2020 15:31
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nielsm posted:I once had to manage a system where you could have two users with the same user name, as long as they had different passwords. Amazon.com?
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AlexDeGruven posted:We were using SunOne for a couple of services until early this year. ‘Sup SunOne buddy. I know more than one IVR whose core is built around SunOne. On Windows. 
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Jul 27, 2020 15:58
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nielsm posted:I once had to manage a system where you could have two users with the same user name, as long as they had different passwords. 
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Jul 27, 2020 16:11
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Guy Axlerod posted:Amazon.com? A national charity. In fact I think two users could have both the same user name and password, in that case it would just log you in as a random one of them.
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Jul 27, 2020 16:33
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Geemer posted:
the nintendo clubhouse games version of this is called "Hit & Blow." not better
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Jul 27, 2020 17:12
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GroupWise is still currently being worked on and patched.
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nielsm posted:I once had to manage a system where you could have two users with the same user name, as long as they had different passwords.
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GreenNight posted:GroupWise is still currently being worked on and patched. Is it better now?
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I don't know, we haven't run it in a decade.
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RFC2324 posted:Is it better now? LOL
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Look it's easy, you just "SELECT user_id FROM users WHERE username='" & Request.QueryString("username") & "' AND password='" & Request.QueryString("password") & "'" and store the first result in a cookie. nielsm fucked around with this message at 20:10 on Jul 27, 2020 |
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Jul 27, 2020 20:08
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New Boss^2 started today, and rumor mill has it that Boss^4 is out. So things might get rather interesting around the workplace for a while.
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nielsm posted:Look it's easy, you just... store the first result in a cookie. This made me laugh more than it should.
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Jul 28, 2020 01:13
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My high school back in the 90s had a library system which accepted wildcards in the username field and would then just match whoever happened to have the password you entered. 
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Jul 28, 2020 01:21
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dragonshardz posted:New Boss^2 started today, and rumor mill has it that Boss^4 is out. So things might get rather interesting around the workplace for a while. Jesus, how many layers of management do you have?
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Jul 28, 2020 03:33
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Proteus Jones posted:Jesus, how many layers of management do you have? I "joked" at $job-1 that my father, as a civilian employee attached to the US Armed Forces, had less management steps between himself and the President of the United States than I did to our CEO.
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Jul 28, 2020 04:52
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Wizard of the Deep posted:I "joked" at $job-1 that my father, as a civilian employee attached to the US Armed Forces, had less management steps between himself and the President of the United States than I did to our CEO. fewer steps. fewer is for countable nouns. you have fewer steps. 
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Jul 28, 2020 04:59
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Methanar posted:fewer steps. fewer is for countable nouns. you have fewer steps. Counterpoint: Management is an uncountable, cancerous mass, describable only in non-euclidean terms. "Steps" is what our poor, mortal melons can handle.
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Jul 28, 2020 05:03
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poo poo, my chain is my manager, our director, the local head of IT, the CEO. The LHIT came to town with a "clean house" mandate from the CEO and when he moves on will probably be replaced by someone with an extra step to the CEO, but that'll still be hella short to the big boss.
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Jul 28, 2020 05:25
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Proteus Jones posted:Jesus, how many layers of management do you have? In order: 1. My direct boss, the Service Desk Supervisor 2. His boss, the Customer Services and Support Section Chief 3. Boss^3, the Chief Information Officer 4. Boss^4, the Agency Information Officer After this it gets into executive hierarchy poo poo way beyond my ken that eventually terminates in the governor.
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It's basically me - (division) manager - CEO. But  is weird. Flat org structures are the norm here outside of really big companies.
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Jul 28, 2020 07:47
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Geemer posted:
It's already been fixed, ironically. We even have this thing at home. 
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Jul 28, 2020 07:54
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Infrastructure engineering team lead director of engineering VP of cloud engineering VP of something CEO
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Jul 28, 2020 07:57
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MJP posted:They migrated my wife's workplace from Lotus Notes to Outlook just last year. We're still using it though only for a few minor things, not for email. Though I did find out that I actually have a working email address on the domain of a predecessor company that hasn't existed since three mergers ago.
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Wizard of the Deep posted:I "joked" at $job-1 that my father, as a civilian employee attached to the US Armed Forces, had less management steps between himself and the President of the United States than I did to our CEO. This isn't too far out there; I am absolute bottom rung and you can get from me to the president in six steps, seven if you include the contracting company, but that's more parasitic than management. Sheep fucked around with this message at 13:36 on Jul 28, 2020 |
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Jul 28, 2020 13:27
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Methanar posted:fewer steps. fewer is for countable nouns. you have fewer steps. less posting. less posting is for you. you should post less.i'm just kidding the thought of posting this made me laugh
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random ticket posted:big box of compuper things it in. What do. 
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