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CocoaNuts posted:I can't muster sympathy for Ghomeshi but, drat, he was a top-flight interviewer. Q has not been anywhere near as good since Jian's cancellation. you gotta hand it to him i never actually listened to Q because I don’t commute but I’m sad shad didn’t succeed there cuz I like his music and I think he’s a good interviewer on the Netflix rap show
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Take a minute to check out the RSVP list for the anti-mask protest that happened at the local provincial park yesterday. a lot of fun people RSVPd to this one
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There's a hell of an arc here where the New York Review of Books goes from routinely publishing the likes Umberto Eco and Susan Sontag to pay-walling all their archived content and publishing Ghomeshi's pitiful mewling. Pro-tip: NYRB content is all on the internet archive. Virtual Russian has issued a correction as of 15:51 on Jul 27, 2020 |
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EvilJoven posted:Take a minute to check out the RSVP list for the anti-mask protest that happened at the local provincial park yesterday. a lot of fun people RSVPd to this one only 4 people showed up to this and two of them was the organizer and their daughter
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manitobas top health guy telling businesses to have contingency plans for the fall when everyone starts calling in sick with covid lol
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the irony of a bunch of people bemoaning cancel culture critics while posting in a thread with gloryhole jokes is very c-spam
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Salean posted:i need a gc.ca gloryhole tracker so i can find a gloryhole near me that's safe if nothing else they’d be roomy
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Look, I mean I want to believe this is fake, but... it's 2020.
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a primate posted:the irony of a bunch of people bemoaning cancel culture critics while posting in a thread with gloryhole jokes is very c-spam idk, is someone going to get cancelled for going to a gloryhole?
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infernal machines posted:idk, is someone going to get cancelled for going to a gloryhole? idk, maybe joking about it. maybe it’s not a good example, but i am surprised people posting on SA wouldn’t be more concerned about getting cancelled over their posting record, if it became public. this whole cancelling thing to me just indicates how much power an employer has over its employees. I guess I see it more as a labour issue than a way for individuals to speak to power
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a primate posted:idk, maybe joking about it. maybe it’s not a good example, but i am surprised people posting on SA wouldn’t be more concerned about getting cancelled over their posting record, if it became public. this whole cancelling thing to me just indicates how much power an employer has over its employees. I guess I see it more as a labour issue than a way for individuals to speak to power Nobody cares about any of us or our posting. Log off and go for a walk if its giving you anxiety
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a primate posted:idk, maybe joking about it. maybe it’s not a good example, but i am surprised people posting on SA wouldn’t be more concerned about getting cancelled over their posting record, if it became public. this whole cancelling thing to me just indicates how much power an employer has over its employees. I guess I see it more as a labour issue than a way for individuals to speak to power thankfully, as demonstrated by the fhritp guy, if you have a union they will do their duty and you will keep your job even if you do get outed for being a shitlord. so the lesson is, support labour unions if you're worried about cancel culture i might lose a few clients if my post record on certain subjects became publicly tied to my irl identity, but that's not because of some cancellation nonsense. otoh if i were posting slurs and hate speech, yeah i might have a problem with my posts being tied to my name. i'm not though
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infernal machines posted:thankfully, as demonstrated by the fhritp guy, if you have a union they will do their duty and you will keep your job even if you do get outed for being a shitlord. so the lesson is, support labour unions if you're worried about cancel culture that’s fair. my industry is not unionized so i can’t fall back on that. I remember working for a company during the fhritp Ontario guy thing, and one of the bosses called us all in for meeting telling us we’d be fired if we said something in our spare time that the company felt was contrary to its values. I’m not the type of person to be caught in that situation, but I felt generally threatened by the fact that your employer could terminate you based on things you did in your spare time. I guess I was naive, but that is the general feeling I have whenever people’s livelihoods are threatened for their speech, whether warranted or not. I understand I’m in the minority on this, so I don’t want to derail the thread about it. but posting into the ether is what I generally do so I don’t see any reason to change 
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Someone I know posted this thinking it's real. She's gone insane over COVID-19, she used to be a freebirth advocating hippy, now shes a Qanon posting insane person. 5G, Gates, Soros, everything.
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a primate posted:idk, maybe joking about it. maybe it’s not a good example, but i am surprised people posting on SA wouldn’t be more concerned about getting cancelled over their posting record, if it became public. this whole cancelling thing to me just indicates how much power an employer has over its employees. I guess I see it more as a labour issue than a way for individuals to speak to power Starks posted:Sorry I didn't really articulate my post well, what I meant is there's lots of high-profile cases in the U.S. of non-famous or barely famous people getting fired for stuff they said or wrote outside of work, and these "cancel culture" articles are clearly preying on that fear, but afaik it's much harder to fire people for the same stuff in Canada. I assume that's why the Hydro One guy who harassed that reporter got rehired. Maybe that's a little naive, I should show my boss my "lust for boomer death" post to test my theory out. I will let you know how it goes
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a primate posted:that’s fair. my industry is not unionized so i can’t fall back on that. I remember working for a company during the fhritp Ontario guy thing, and one of the bosses called us all in for meeting telling us we’d be fired if we said something in our spare time that the company felt was contrary to its values. I’m not the type of person to be caught in that situation, but I felt generally threatened by the fact that your employer could terminate you based on things you did in your spare time. I guess I was naive, but that is the general feeling I have whenever people’s livelihoods are threatened for their speech, whether warranted or not. it's cool, i mean what you're describing is definitely your employer stating that they'll use their power to fire you as long as they can find a reason. which definitely says something about the company. it's easy to classify this as an issue with personal speech outside of company time, but if someone is intentionally being lovely to women on national tv, it's probably going to make for a toxic work environment too.
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Tangentially related - I monitor social media for the company I work for and we get messages from randoms trying to doxx employees over the pettiest poo poo way more often than I expected going in.
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Starks posted:On a side note, it's extremely telling that people like Cherry/LeDrew/Weiss have shown absolutely zero support for stricter labour laws despite seeing themselves as victims of draconic employers. Live by the sword die by the sword I guess it's also worth noting that in each of those cases it wasn't some one-off that sunk their career, they all have a history of being lovely to/about certain groups, and they just finally managed to cross a line. the fact that there is now a line to be crossed as opposed to being able to be an unrepentant rear end in a top hat for your entire professional career, with no consequences whatsoever, at the expense of everyone else, isn't really a downside imo cougar cub posted:Tangentially related - I monitor social media for the company I work for and we get messages from randoms trying to doxx employees over the pettiest poo poo way more often than I expected going in. that sucks, but i take it you have some leeway to exercise judgement on what gets forwarded to hr?
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Another Bill posted:Nobody cares about any of us or our posting. Log off and go for a walk if its giving you anxiety Bunnyofdoom sits in the corner with a finger in the air.
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infernal machines posted:that sucks, but i take it you have some leeway to exercise judgement on what gets forwarded to hr? Yeah, pretty much full control. Truthfully I'm more likely to circumvent HR and get Operations involved if there's an issue. Once had a client's employee message a homophobic rant about our service employee being gay and how it was a huge disgusting issue. I was able to go to my ops manager and have him lean on the client to get their employee removed in response - no need for any notes on our employee's file. "So and so cheated on me and isn't trustworthy, buddy owes me money you better tell him, this persons a drug addict, your employee said mean things to me about being an anti-vaxxer on the internet, etc." IDGAF about that poo poo - those are getting polite corporate platitudes until you go away.
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a primate posted:that’s fair. my industry is not unionized so i can’t fall back on that. I remember working for a company during the fhritp Ontario guy thing, and one of the bosses called us all in for meeting telling us we’d be fired if we said something in our spare time that the company felt was contrary to its values. I’m not the type of person to be caught in that situation, but I felt generally threatened by the fact that your employer could terminate you based on things you did in your spare time. I guess I was naive, but that is the general feeling I have whenever people’s livelihoods are threatened for their speech, whether warranted or not. I agree with you, people shouldn't be fired for expressing their views outside of work. With so many companies now worried about their brand they want to mercilessly control everything surrounding their image which includes their labour force. No one asked for that when you sign up to sell your labour to them, and yet somehow that's become part of the deal as everyone becomes more visible in a world with social media. The wrinkle is that a lot of the people who are critical of cancel culture aren't people getting fired from their workplace. The big name in Canada, Barbara Kay, quit. Bari Weiss, the big name in the US, quit. None of these champions of free speech are they highlighting the people who have already been fired for expressing their views they happen to disagree with. No one went to bat for Norm Finklestein, or anyone else who is critical of Israel and loses their job over it. That particular issue is always messy because it can border on antisemitism which, at least in Canada, isn't something that our free speech laws generally tolerate. It's just that those same standards are being applied to every kind of criticism-maybe-possibly-bigotry situation, and as it turns out when you do that, it starts culling people pretty quickly. Not that I believe being critical of Israel means you're antisemetic, but merely that these situation get pretty messy, and Bari Weiss is absolutely someone who exploited that situation herself to try to get a professor she didn't like fired. Ultimately, the people involved with cancel culture criticism are so far removed from the Wal-Mart greeter or Arby's cook getting fired for saying some dumb poo poo on social media that between their clearly hypocritical application of "cancel culture" when they're on the receiving end of mass criticism, and their disinterest in actually fighting for any concrete person without any real power or platform, that I don't want to even agree with them in principle because I question their principles. I'm happy to agree with you on the subject, however, because again, employee protections are important and should be way more robust than they already are, and not contingent on whether or not you're unionized. People gently caress up. I'm not going to hold it against them, most of the time.
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Twitter thread about the Nova Scotia mass shooter. Disband the RCMP https://twitter.com/Tim_Bousquet/status/1287841073381900292
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Chamale posted:Twitter thread about the Nova Scotia mass shooter. Disband the RCMP This is loving insane I can't believe they're trying to investigate themselves
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Starks posted:This is loving insane I can't believe they're trying to investigate themselves well they certainly don't want anyone else to investigate them. i mean, could you imagine what that might uncover?
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Chamale posted:Twitter thread about the Nova Scotia mass shooter. Disband the RCMP Been waiting for this
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Starks posted:On a side note, it's extremely telling that people like Cherry/LeDrew/Weiss have shown absolutely zero support for stricter labour laws despite seeing themselves as victims of draconic employers. Live by the sword die by the sword I guess Tbf cherry was (is?) a union booster, tho being a Tory would cancel that out No one ever said he was smart!
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Chamale posted:Twitter thread about the Nova Scotia mass shooter. Disband the RCMP this is loving crazy
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Chamale posted:Twitter thread about the Nova Scotia mass shooter. Disband the RCMP Lol I hope they keep fighting for more to be unredacted. The level of fuckup just keeps getting deeper.
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Dreylad posted:I agree with you, people shouldn't be fired for expressing their views outside of work. With so many companies now worried about their brand they want to mercilessly control everything surrounding their image which includes their labour force. No one asked for that when you sign up to sell your labour to them, and yet somehow that's become part of the deal as everyone becomes more visible in a world with social media. Thanks. I find a lot of people on the left are resistant to this because we generally dislike the people who are frequently victims at the top, like Barbara Kay or Bari Weiss. but most of us are far less powerful to fight back or land a job at some think tank afterward should a company quietly fire us after reading a post they don’t like. The fact that people are employed to scour social media for this very purpose should give anyone interested in Canadian labour some pause.
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a primate posted:Thanks. I find a lot of people on the left are resistant to this because we generally dislike the people who are frequently victims at the top, like Barbara Kay or Bari Weiss. but most of us are far less powerful to fight back or land a job at some think tank afterward should a company quietly fire us after reading a post they don’t like. The fact that people are employed to scour social media for this very purpose should give anyone interested in Canadian labour some pause. the whole point of the post you quoted was that barbara kay and bari weiss AREN'T victims and ARE insulated by their position you dipshit
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