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Vagabundo posted:Something that I started thinking about yesterday, but is there any particular reason why Scott Norton was IWGP Heavyweight Champion? because Scott Norton loving ruled
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# ? Jul 27, 2020 20:08 |
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# ? May 23, 2024 15:27 |
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This is, apparently, the WWF "Real World's Champion" belt the WWF had made more Flair to replace the WCW one. It looks different, but nowhere near enough not to be confused with the WCW Big Gold.
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# ? Jul 27, 2020 20:11 |
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gently caress I think they could have used that as the undisputed title, that looks pretty good
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# ? Jul 27, 2020 20:19 |
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Here's a photo of Flair holding up the belt I posted earlier (though I see now some are saying that Flair was holding a modified Tag belt (With the words "Tag Team" removed, and the globe painted black), and that pic I posted was someone's commissioned replica of that modified belt.
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# ? Jul 27, 2020 20:20 |
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Alaois posted:because Scott Norton loving ruled
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# ? Jul 27, 2020 20:23 |
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Pope Corky the IX posted:It was also confusing because it seemed like he had a different belt every time he appeared. First it was the actual big gold belt which was then digitized, but that wasn't enough. Then he started carrying around a spare tag team championship belt, which was then also digitized, but again, that wasn't enough. If you were paying attention to WWF and had little to no experience with WCW, it seemed like this guy you had probably heard about as Hogan's equal parading around with a bunch of different belts, claming to be the real champion even though it seemed like a con. Thinking back, that's exactly what 12-year old me thought it was - Flair had a fake belt that he insisted was better than Hogan's (which couldn't possibly be true!).
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# ? Jul 27, 2020 20:36 |
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A Scott should have beaten Goldberg first whether it was Steiner or Norton
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# ? Jul 27, 2020 20:37 |
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Davros1 posted:Here's a photo of Flair holding up the belt I posted earlier (though I see now some are saying that Flair was holding a modified Tag belt (With the words "Tag Team" removed, and the globe painted black), and that pic I posted was someone's commissioned replica of that modified belt. This also makes me think of these alternate tag titles they had briefly in the 90s: Most of the time the tag belts had "World" in red with the globe in a lighter/brighter blue than seen here. I wonder if they liked the way the Flair one looked so much that they used it briefly for the tag titles, or vice versa?
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# ? Jul 27, 2020 20:57 |
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I just realized Cagematch changed their Matchguide where you can vote on any match so long as it has a listed match time This is bad because I was used to going to the guide for each wrestler and seeing a list of decent matches - I just went to Flair's matchguide and saw a Spirit Squad and Flair/Piper match on the recommended matches, but then I clicked it and it's only on there because one guy voted it 4/10 https://www.cagematch.net/?id=111&nr=15210 Not good
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# ? Jul 27, 2020 21:23 |
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Red posted:Thinking back, that's exactly what 12-year old me thought it was - Flair had a fake belt that he insisted was better than Hogan's (which couldn't possibly be true!). I actually kind of liked it when Heenan was running around with it and Gorilla asked him if it made his fingers green.
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# ? Jul 27, 2020 21:49 |
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Scott Hall Scott Steiner Scott Norton Scott world order
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# ? Jul 27, 2020 22:18 |
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oldpainless posted:Scott Hall Scott Levy
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# ? Jul 27, 2020 22:23 |
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Red posted:Thinking back, that's exactly what 12-year old me thought it was - Flair had a fake belt that he insisted was better than Hogan's (which couldn't possibly be true!). The classic Vince mistake of making the industry a zero-sum game: You can't make someone seem credible based on outside accomplishments because that means there's stars NOT in the WWE... except that when you decide to make that the story you've spent so long telling people that nothing outside matters that they don't believe you when you swear THIS ONE is different.
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# ? Jul 27, 2020 22:24 |
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oldpainless posted:Scott Hall Randaconda posted:Scott Levy Scotty 2 Hotty
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# ? Jul 27, 2020 22:26 |
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Pope Corky the IX posted:Scotty 2 Hotty scotty wasn't in wcw at the time all 4 of those Scotts were (One was Raven, granted)
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# ? Jul 27, 2020 22:29 |
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Pope Corky the IX posted:Scotty 2 Hotty
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# ? Jul 27, 2020 22:29 |
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Roddy Piper pretended to be a Scot.
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# ? Jul 27, 2020 22:32 |
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SiKboy posted:Roddy Piper pretended to be a Scot. I mean, loud, violent, largely intoxicated, kinda racist sometimes... am I describing Roddy or an Old Firm crowd?
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# ? Jul 27, 2020 22:44 |
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Why is there a flaming garbage can next to his name
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# ? Jul 27, 2020 22:45 |
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Nostradingus posted:Why is there a flaming garbage can next to his name The aesthetic of 1997 WWF was "bald men angrily marching around burning junk and debris."
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# ? Jul 27, 2020 22:48 |
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Gavok posted:The aesthetic of 1997 WWF was "bald men angrily marching around burning junk and debris." The intro to Raw included barking dogs, WW2 footage, and Ahmed Johnson hitting a fence with a 2x4 and screaming
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# ? Jul 27, 2020 23:04 |
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Red posted:The intro to Raw included barking dogs, WW2 footage, and Ahmed Johnson hitting a fence with a 2x4 and screaming With "Beautiful People" playing. It was wonderful. Good God, do I wish TheDiceMustRoll would update that retro Raw thread.
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# ? Jul 27, 2020 23:07 |
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Has there ever been a wrestler with a Warrior Monk type character like a very zen guy who wins by their opponent’s aggression being turned against them. Orange Cassidy is sort of this but I’m thinking more traditional.
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# ? Jul 28, 2020 03:22 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ww-FTQAfjE
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# ? Jul 28, 2020 03:56 |
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Don't forget https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxTcr3J1zQQ Gavok posted:The aesthetic of 1997 WWF was "bald men angrily marching around burning junk and debris." They pretty much directly ripped off the aesthetic of Nitro's intro. Before that you had this kinda stuff that made nobody amped up for wrestling https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yfefn4lSbd0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loUZhzOiVh8
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# ? Jul 28, 2020 04:13 |
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I only really started watching wrestling around '94-'96 and WWE was my 3rd option so boy, I have no memory at all of those opening songs.
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# ? Jul 28, 2020 04:26 |
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i have no memory of the raw intros during that time because i was watching nitro for the first hour
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# ? Jul 28, 2020 04:33 |
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So quick questions, which match that people think is a classic or is a classic but you think the actual booking of the match doesn't make sense for what they're trying to do? For me the biggest example is the 92 Royal Rumble as they very much wanted Hogan to get a super sympathy pop for not winning the title and Sid/Flair to be super over as heels with Sid robbing Hulk of the title and Flair winning it by cheating/screwy means. However when you watch the match you see while Flair does take shortcuts he's also out there for an hour and the crowd is starting to cheer him because that's super impressive, Hogan comes in late and thus when he pulls his act the end it comes off as really petty. Looking at the lay out of the match and the flow it's not to hard to see that Flair is gonna get a pop for winning and that Hogan just might get booed for his act the end
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# ? Jul 28, 2020 05:11 |
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the triple h vs undertaker match where triple h was supposed to get a massive pop and thank you chants after he couldn't take out the undertaker, and any time triple h was ever supposed to have been a sympathetic character forgot to say i know not a ton of people love those matches but i consider it fitting into the classic matches category due to meltzer's high rating and the respect he is given. Thank you Cavauro fucked around with this message at 05:21 on Jul 28, 2020 |
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SatoshiMiwa posted:So quick questions, which match that people think is a classic or is a classic but you think the actual booking of the match doesn't make sense for what they're trying to do? For me the biggest example is the 92 Royal Rumble as they very much wanted Hogan to get a super sympathy pop for not winning the title and Sid/Flair to be super over as heels with Sid robbing Hulk of the title and Flair winning it by cheating/screwy means. However when you watch the match you see while Flair does take shortcuts he's also out there for an hour and the crowd is starting to cheer him because that's super impressive, Hogan comes in late and thus when he pulls his act the end it comes off as really petty. Looking at the lay out of the match and the flow it's not to hard to see that Flair is gonna get a pop for winning and that Hogan just might get booed for his act the end Okada/Naito at WK 12. Granted that did have one hell of a payoff eventually, but it still was a pretty baffling booking decision.
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# ? Jul 28, 2020 06:49 |
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MorrisBae posted:I just realized Cagematch changed their Matchguide where you can vote on any match so long as it has a listed match time I think they got tired of being bugged to add matches from smaller promotions they don't really follow to it
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# ? Jul 28, 2020 07:55 |
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Hakushi/Jinsei Shinzaki was always awesome to see. Somehow WWE didn't instantly make him lame.
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# ? Jul 28, 2020 09:51 |
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Cerebral Bore posted:Okada/Naito at WK 12. You can re-live it here https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3845238&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=49
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# ? Jul 28, 2020 10:07 |
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Eat My Fuc posted:Has there ever been a wrestler with a Warrior Monk type character like a very zen guy who wins by their opponent’s aggression being turned against them. Orange Cassidy is sort of this but I’m thinking more traditional. This is kind of Colt Cabana's thing too with all his "Make the opponent do something dumb" spots
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# ? Jul 28, 2020 11:49 |
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A lot of WWF New York was also styled that way, with cyclone fencing and brick walls and CRT televisions stacked at odd angles on top of steel drums.
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# ? Jul 28, 2020 11:55 |
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Eat My Fuc posted:Has there ever been a wrestler with a Warrior Monk type character like a very zen guy who wins by their opponent’s aggression being turned against them. Orange Cassidy is sort of this but I’m thinking more traditional. awesome an excuse for posting the best scene in Kung Fu Hustle https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQV2VQ_I68s
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# ? Jul 28, 2020 11:55 |
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What happened to Homicide? Last time I remember seeing him was as a member of World Elite in TNA 2008/2009.
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# ? Jul 28, 2020 12:38 |
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He still is floating around. Just main evented one of GCWs Homecoming shows this past weekend and they also had a whole show dedicated to him within the past year
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# ? Jul 28, 2020 12:56 |
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He was tagging with Eddie Kingston in the NWA for a while, too.
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# ? Jul 28, 2020 15:00 |
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# ? May 23, 2024 15:27 |
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Moe_Rahn posted:He was tagging with Eddie Kingston in the NWA for a while, too. Which lead to this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o690FN3vfDw In which we learned that Homicide saved Eddie's life
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# ? Jul 28, 2020 15:06 |