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The only thing I want to know is... ...how would that apply to something like Unleash the Hounds or Swarm of Locusts?  Also, this thing is going to be sickening when combo'ed with Headmaster Kel'Thuzad.
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The spells wouldn't be the thing doing damage at that point, so it would do nothing
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Torrannor posted:Okay, wow. I never thought about applying effects to spells, this is very cool. This is the only keyword that can be added onto spells, right? Taunt, rush, etc. obviously won't work. This is good with Rapid Fire. The closest keywords to poisonous mechanically are lifesteal and overkill (lol), which can appears on minions, spells, and weapons. I guess the reason we haven't seen a spell that has poisonous (as opposed to granting it) is it's kind of superfluous compared to just saying "destroy a minion".
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gandlethorpe posted:The closest keywords to poisonous mechanically are lifesteal and overkill (lol), which can appears on minions, spells, and weapons. I guess the reason we haven't seen a spell that has poisonous (as opposed to granting it) is it's kind of superfluous compared to just saying "destroy a minion". Destroy a minion eats through DS too though
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gandlethorpe posted:First hunter-only reveal! And it was worth staying up late! so that's a board clear with Explosive Trap then?
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Julio Cruz posted:so that's a board clear with Explosive Trap then? I mean.. if your opponent is stupid enough to leave Slate in play and attack your face, yeah
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Julio Cruz posted:so that's a board clear with Explosive Trap then? If you are dumb enough not to kill the legendary first
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gandlethorpe posted:Why not with infinite bolts using a card no one's thought of since it was revealed? I crafted two of these to make a spell-heavy Druid list using Crystalsong Portal and a spell-heavy Hunter list using Master's Call. Wasn't great.
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   But nevermind that bull, Exodia Mage is back (oh probably also Malygos Rogue)!  YOU CAN COUNT ON ME, I'M CERTIFIED! Suddenly I'm glad Glide is a card  Edit: Flavour-wise, I like how Elekks in HS are 3 mana 3/4's that interact with your deck. Just think it's neat. Also Educated Elekk has a little bell on its collar 
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It's like they were "remember Descend of Dragons and how that played out? Let's do this again!"
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Torrannor posted:Okay, wow. I never thought about applying effects to spells, this is very cool. This is the only keyword that can be added onto spells, right? Taunt, rush, etc. obviously won't work. This is good with Rapid Fire. Lifesteal could potentially be added. Echo as well (though that's out of print now). Blooming Brilliant posted:
Sonya Shadowdancer as a spell sounds terrifying. Think this could also help make Mill Rogue a lot more consistent once you've got the oracles in hand, you can refill them a lot easier. Deathrattle rogue too. More cheap flamewakers. The terrifying list goes on.
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I want to like Potion of Illusion, but I'm struggling to think of any good combo application for the card. In fact, they clearly tuned it to not work with existing rogue/mage combos. It's basically just gonna be a value generator like Barista, which is fine (off of ethereal lackey cuz I don't think I'm actually playing this in a deck)
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This set is probably the hardest to evaluate. So many cards seem incredibly strong, but everything has a gimmick or is reliant on some combo, so I am not sure how that is going to translate in practice. It is unfortunate Aggro DH will likely be incredibly oppressive right out of the gate, because there is so much stuff worth experimenting with.
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Oh Potion of illusion only affects units on board. Best case right now is probably Kronx or Togwaggle.
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Firebert posted:I want to like Potion of Illusion, but I'm struggling to think of any good combo application for the card. In fact, they clearly tuned it to not work with existing rogue/mage combos. It's basically just gonna be a value generator like Barista, which is fine (off of ethereal lackey cuz I don't think I'm actually playing this in a deck) There is an Exodia combo with it, albeit it's probably too convoluted to work. x2 Sorcerer's Apprentice -> Potion of Illusion -> x2 1 mana Sorcerer's Apprentice -> Potion of Illusion for x4 1 mana Sorcerer's Apprentice in hand for 8 mana. Next turn, x4 1 mana Sorcerer's Apprentice -> Coin from Licensed Adventurer (which can also be thrown in at some point during the previous turn if at 10 mana) -> Big Tony = Free Fireballs. It's a combo that I'd be more worried about if Ice Block was still a thing.
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This is dumb. Elekks didn't even arrive until after scholo turned to the scourge 
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Wait, with Argent Braggart lets say I'm playing Paladin and have a full HP Turyalon or Batterhead, and the enemy has a Deathwing with 2 HP, does that turn into a 12/12 then? If that's how it works that's loving bonkers for a 2 Drop
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Orange Crush Rush posted:Wait, with Argent Braggart lets say I'm playing Paladin and have a full HP Turyalon or Batterhead, and the enemy has a Deathwing with 2 HP, does that turn into a 12/12 then? If that's how it works that's loving bonkers for a 2 Drop yeah I assume it's like that that'll be extremely rare though and it's vulnerable to silence (especially the new Mage silence/rush minion) I think if it does see play it'll be as a 2-mana Faceless Manipulator-ish card in a Big/Control Paladin, which very well may not be a thing anyway
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Julio Cruz posted:yeah I assume it's like that I mean, DH silencing a 2 Drop as opposed to like, Tirion or some poo poo is something I would consider a win. Also The fact that you can play this alongside Turyalon and gain a 12 HP minion with probably high attack can make for some crazy rear end swing plays.
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You could play it along a libram for two 8/8s (or more)
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It's... mostly cheaper Frostbolt, but that combo requirement could be a real bummer sometime. Really nice discover target though.
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What I'm personally looking forward to trying is some kind of ridiculous spell cyclone PRIEST now - between the amount of 'copy a minion' spells available, cost reduction with radiant, infinite generation with Lyra and Veilweaver, value with Elekk and Test Subject, etc... there's potentially something truly stupidly comical there. I mean, you obviously want to have a Yogg and some seances too. Olpainless fucked around with this message at 16:45 on Jul 28, 2020 |
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Olpainless posted:It's... mostly cheaper Frostbolt, but that combo requirement could be a real bummer sometime. Really nice discover target though.
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It's also available to rogue, which I am not looking forward to experiencing. Mage is whatever but that's a very, very efficient removal spell for rogue.
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Nah. I think my bold claim of the set is that this card won't see much play. A) it can't go face B) both Mage and Rogue have plenty of single-target removal C) the combo limitation isn't trivial
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDawd3eWQAE Priest/Paladin Legendary with Spellburst: cast a random spell from your deck and target this minion if possible
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Fun concept. Would be much stronger non-legendary because it basically wants you to build around only expensive spells then get a cheap spell into your hand via minion-based card generation.
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It has a surprising amount of burst potential for Paladin. Coin it turn 3, then turn 4 BoK into another spellbursted BoK. Nifty.
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Devo posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDawd3eWQAE Seems to be more of a Paladin minion. Priest runs far too many things that would work against you.
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TyrantWD posted:Seems to be more of a Paladin minion. Priest runs far too many things that would work against you. Theoretical Zoo Priest likes this card if Theoretical Zoo Priest gets any kind of card draw
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the Spellburst effect happens after the spell has been cast and resolved, right? so any minion copying spell is going to get you 2 Aluras and then the Spellbursts on both go off? e: or maybe the Spellburst on the second one doesn't proc because it wasn't on the board when the first spell was cast, but it should still be there for the next spell Julio Cruz fucked around with this message at 18:29 on Jul 28, 2020 |
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Love that most of the paladin / priest split cards are really just paladin cards, but without taking up space in the set for paladin.
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I didn't realize that the Elekk works for enemy spells as well. It's still a meme, but a good one. Maybe for fatigue decks after Elysiana rotates.
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Devo posted:Theoretical Zoo Priest likes this card if Theoretical Zoo Priest gets any kind of card draw Blizzard kind of forgot about Priest needing card draw. They will probably get another basic set rework once Galakrond rotates out next year.
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TyrantWD posted:Blizzard kind of forgot about Priest needing card draw. They will probably get another basic set rework once Galakrond rotates out next year. I think Blizzard expects Priest’s strong Card Generation to make up for Draw, but that also means any chance of playing a non long game deck for Priest goes out the loving window. Cant really rely on Generation to help a zoo deck close the game out really.
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OP with Shadow Word: Pain
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