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I'm the UK on all those maps e: i have voted to exit from the previous page.
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While I have banned myself from Something Awful for no reason, it was only so I could make excellent posting deals with off-sites
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Reveilled posted:Almost the opposite in some ways, more like "Oh, you you thought a high commission was a colonial office? No, no, nooooo...what a terrible misunderstanding, it's just another word for an embassy! Look, why don't you come to the UK and open up a high commission to the UK? If we both have high commissioners, that proves it wasn't colonialism!" I think it’s more that historically the sovereign couldn’t accredit an embassy to himself. After the statute of Westminster the dominions became junior kingdoms held in personal union with the British crown. So the king of Canada couldn’t accredit an embassy to the king of Australia, they’re the same person. So, High commissioners, and the tradition stuck even after some of the former states got rid of the Queen.
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I just got very angry about somebody saying Pennsylvania is not a coastal state. It's on the Atlantic Ocean. Pennsylvania has free flowing estuarine water south of the end of the Delaware river. Philadelphia is an oceanic port. Also yeah the lacustrine part around Erie. Pennsylvania is one of two states with frontage on the Atlantic Ocean and the Great Lakes, and it's even got an international boundary.
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I have been to pennsylvania once, as I made my way to jersey for a wedding. The wedding ruled, pennsylvania I only remember as a drunken three hours. would go again.
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Benagain posted:I have been to pennsylvania once, as I made my way to jersey for a wedding. The wedding ruled, pennsylvania I only remember as a drunken three hours. would go again. It is the finest of our four commonwealths. I'm not going to compare it to the states.
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:I just got very angry about somebody saying Pennsylvania is not a coastal state. It's on the Atlantic Ocean. Pennsylvania has free flowing estuarine water south of the end of the Delaware river. Philadelphia is an oceanic port. Also yeah the lacustrine part around Erie. Pennsylvania is one of two states with frontage on the Atlantic Ocean and the Great Lakes, and it's even got an international boundary. You're technically correct, which we all know is the best kind of correct, but you can see how someone who doesn't know those very specific facts might look at this and go "that's not a coastal state". 
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:I just got very angry about somebody saying Pennsylvania is not a coastal state. It's on the Atlantic Ocean. Pennsylvania has free flowing estuarine water south of the end of the Delaware river. Philadelphia is an oceanic port. Also yeah the lacustrine part around Erie. Pennsylvania is one of two states with frontage on the Atlantic Ocean and the Great Lakes, and it's even got an international boundary. Connecticut is also questionably a coastal state, I feel your pain.
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:I just got very angry about somebody saying Pennsylvania is not a coastal state. It's on the Atlantic Ocean. Pennsylvania has free flowing estuarine water south of the end of the Delaware river. Philadelphia is an oceanic port. Also yeah the lacustrine part around Erie. Pennsylvania is one of two states with frontage on the Atlantic Ocean and the Great Lakes, and it's even got an international boundary. lol if you have to go under a bridge in another state to get to the ocean, you're not on the ocean
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Unreal_One posted:lol if you have to go under a bridge in another state to get to the ocean, you're not on the ocean Oakland is not a coastal city? Is London a coastal city?
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London is a port city, which is different but also somehow the same sometimes.
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not another state, not another porblem
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:Oakland is not a coastal city? What state is Oakland in?
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Why don't you guys just annex Delaware, it's pretty much your vassal state anyway right? We can do the same to Rhode Island and both be real coastal states  (though RI is MA's vassal state so that might get complicated)
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Spazzle posted:What state is Oakland in? Maryland
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Grape posted:Why don't you guys just annex Delaware, it's pretty much your vassal state anyway right? Delaware was part of Pennsylvania, they declared their independence from both Pennsylvania and the United Kingdom on June 15, 1776, weeks before the other colonies. In all of North America, only Vermont and the Indians were more independent than Delaware at the time.
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Wow, this discussion on Pennsylvania being a coastal state has kinda blown my mind, it's something I've never really thought about before. When I think of a coastal state I think of something like Florida or Rhode Island, a state overwhelmingly bordered by the ocean. As someone from NYS, I often forget just how big Long Island is and how much coastline it adds to our state. But Pennsylvania? No way would I have said it was coastal. But you're right that Philly has a direct link to the ocean not too far away. But in spirit, I don't think Pennsylvania exudes that coastal attitude. The
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PA has the best snacks in the entire country though.
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I've been to Pennsylvania three times. First time was the first time I ever traveled to Canada. It was March and the weather was decent until around I got to Cleveland. A horrible blizzard hit and I still had like ten hours of swinging round the lakes to get into eastern Ontario. It was the first time I'd ever driven in snow, visibility was next to nothing, and frankly it's a miracle that I didn't kill myself or anyone else. I stopped at a gas station that claimed to be in Erie, Pennsylvania and their coffee sucked. Second time: me and my ex rented a little cabin on the New York side of the Delaware river the next summer. The nearest town was on the Pennsylvania side so we went there to get groceries and watch a movie at the cute little old timey theatre they had. My ex got food poisoning from those groceries, and the movie we watched was loving Man of Steel. Third time: Was just driving across it but had to stop for the night. Got up early the next morning, took a local highway instead of the interstate, there were some great views, and then I got stuck behind a literal loving Amish horse and buggy clopping down the road. Overall I'd rate Pennsylvania as a poor state and definitely not coastal, but better than Jersey or Connecticut Edgar Allen Ho fucked around with this message at 05:31 on Jul 29, 2020 |
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:Third time: Was just driving across it but had to stop for the night. Got up early the next morning, took a local highway instead of the interstate, there were some great views, and then I got stuck behind a literal loving Amish horse and buggy clopping down the road. Honestly you get used to that. I've been late to work because of amish produce carts before.
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Pennsylvania being coastal or not depends on the tides.
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Even if you disagree with me it's got coast on Lake Erie, even a border with Canada. But I posit that it's also got coast on the Atlantic Ocean. How about Baltimore? Is that a coastal city? Obviously it is.
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:Delaware was part of Pennsylvania, they declared their independence from both Pennsylvania and the United Kingdom on June 15, 1776, weeks before the other colonies. In all of North America, only Vermont and the Indians were more independent than Delaware at the time. Yeah I know, invade them and conquer them. So you can have a coast and not have to stare longingly out of a widening river as Delaware and Jersey flirtatiously grope one another with I-95, blocking your view. It could be worse, we have to stare at Long Island. SpitztheGreat posted:Wow, this discussion on Pennsylvania being a coastal state has kinda blown my mind, it's something I've never really thought about before. When I think of a coastal state I think of something like Florida or Rhode Island, a state overwhelmingly bordered by the ocean. As someone from NYS, I often forget just how big Long Island is and how much coastline it adds to our state. But Pennsylvania? No way would I have said it was coastal. But you're right that Philly has a direct link to the ocean not too far away. But in spirit, I don't think Pennsylvania exudes that coastal attitude. The Rhode Island is overwhelmingly bordered by bays that connect to the ocean and other states. In a sense it's barely on the ocean. No one even really lives on the coast/islands, they're all up in the far north ten minutes away from Massachusetts at any given time.
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Yeah, Baltimore is on a bay, not a river, easy. Also, ocean access goes over a tunnel, not under a bridge. And lol at the great lakes being considered coastal. Indiana: a coastal state!
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Unreal_One posted:Also, ocean access goes over a tunnel, not under a bridge. It's both
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:Overall I'd rate Pennsylvania as a poor state and definitely not coastal, but better than Jersey or Connecticut lol hell no, Penn is the worst northeastern state. I mean god dude let's see where to start? -last state in region to get gay marriage -voted for trump lol -dumbest on covid stuff so far -voted for goddamn trump, even Maine only partly voted for Trump! Maine! Penn even is the worst if you include the Greater Northeast of Maryland and Delaware and DC. Grape fucked around with this message at 06:32 on Jul 29, 2020 |
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Unreal_One posted:Yeah, Baltimore is on a bay, not a river, easy. Also, ocean access goes over a tunnel, not under a bridge. To get to the open ocean from Baltimore you definitely have to go through another state. Under a bridge or over a tunnel. Also, I don't believe the Great Lakes "coastline" counts. It's freshwater! Also the idea of the great coastal port of Sandusky Ohio holy poo poo
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How far will sea levels need to rise before Pennsylvania is unambiguously coastal even from a glance at a map?
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Powered Descent posted:How far will sea levels need to rise before Pennsylvania is unambiguously coastal even from a glance at a map? Not far at all. My town is 20' above sea level. E: for the maps thread, a map! 
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I've lived in Pennsylvania almost my whole life, it for sure sucks and has great snacks but it's not coastal. To me coastline means beach or other oceanic expanse like the rocky shores of Maine or whatever. I think Connecticut is way more coastal than Pennsylvania, since it's only "not a coast" on a technicality, and still has that whole southern shoreline. No part of Pennsylvania is usually drawn if you're just drawing the rough outline of the contiguous US, unless you're going into an absurd amount of detail. That isn't the case for Connecticut. Now that I'm reflecting on it, I'm thinking it's a geometry thing to me, like, so much of the state's borders are explicitly NOT water borders that it's hard to consider it "coastal" in the same way as states like New Jersey or whatever. Plus I don't consider the lake states coastal even though they have sea access, in the same way that like, Malawi isn't a coastal country. Another weird Pennsylvania thing is that anecdotally, it's the only state I've ever heard its residents refer to as "PA" out loud (pronounced pee-ay, barely two syllables). I guess it's just that much easier to say than Pennsylvania?
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Gorau posted:So the king of Canada couldn’t accredit an embassy to the king of Australia, they’re the same person. It's literally Sovereign Citizen bullshit.
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I want to know more about these uniquely Pennsylvanian snacks.
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I'm going to guess they're just more variants of heart attack on a stick.
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As a compromise can we say that PA has no coastline but rather a coast point?
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Count Roland posted:I unironically think city states (or quasi-autonomous polities of some sort) will rear their head this century as large cities grow in influence while nationalism/federalism wanes in some places. Not that nation states well disappear, but that city states will increase in relative importance. In many places this would lead to a shift in importance and thus population from "central"* cities to port cities and border cities. *) Central to a country.
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3D Megadoodoo posted:In many places this would lead to a shift in importance and thus population from "central"* cities to port cities and border cities. Hypothetically, I would think the opposite would be true in many areas. Large cities rely on the state and its ability to draw on territories to support them in a way city-states were historically unable to do. Political disintegration would probably result in medium-sized cities in the interior returning where rural depopulation had previously been the rule as a function of the typical new economic network and because rural areas would resist the political dominance of the existing candidates for city-states. Of course, I also don’t think that city-states are likely to return.
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