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Mithaldu posted:Just form a coop with your renters. How does this actually work? I've heard a little about it, but no one I know personally is in one for first-hand anecdotes? Otherwise: NEWS FROM THE BLIGHTED SOUTH I never thought I'd be thankful for WalMart but them requiring masks to shop seems to have coincided with a weird change in mask wearing among the people down here AND a slew of other businesses requiring masks to enter. Im still personally avoiding shopping anytime church isnt in session, but it's the first encouraging behavior change I've seen down here. It's also maybe notable that the county I live in is one of the worst in the state for percent change in the last two weeks. After sitting in the low double digits for first half of the year. We bounced to the low triples then went from just over 200 cases two weeks ago to almost 550 in 14 loving days. So the masking up now is almost certainly closing the barn door after the horses have fled and the fire has started.
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zer0spunk posted:"won't someone think of the landlords" for 500 alex Bourgeoisie 
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The Strangest Finch posted:How does this actually work? I've heard a little about it, but no one I know personally is in one for first-hand anecdotes? If Costco isn't open how can you shop there though? E: This isn't the Costco thread so presumably "Church" as used here means Jesus Hut or some poo poo, never mind.
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Schadenboner posted:If Costco isn't open how can you shop there though? Yeah, the latter. I'm pretty sure there isn't a Costco within a two hour drive of me. There might be a Sam's club in Savannah?
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Saalkin posted:You are a blight on society.
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https://twitter.com/zeynep/status/1288857584007630851The Strangest Finch posted:How does this actually work? I've heard a little about it, but no one I know personally is in one for first-hand anecdotes?
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Someone sell me a fishbowl-style astronaut helmet already. I'll happily wear that poo poo at this point.
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I like the one with the old style air cleaner hooked up to flexible hose leading to a mask, mad-max style. I'm sure it's been posted in this thread before.
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Hazo posted:It must be so weird to base your income off of preying on people trying to fulfill the very bottom level of Maslow's hierarchy of needs. GBS going full Communism  If you can own property, it’s within your rights to lend or rent to anyone you want, that’s how just people taking advantage of the system, wtf is going on in America with this landlord hate lately I know dudes who worked their whole life to buy a property and now rent it, I’d do it too universal basic income sounds like a better idea to me to fix some modern problems
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Did you just mock communism while in the same post advocating for government-provided baseline income?
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Michael Corleone posted:I start typing and getting ready to argue with morons on the book over vaccines and other garbage they are spewing. Then I just stop, really what is the point? I have no clue how Trump keeps getting more fans, I would think he would be losing supporters left and right. I don't consider myself a genius but some people are just dumb as a rock and I have no idea how they could seriously believe the things they say. Oh well, it is best to just turn off your monitor when dealing with idiots is my point. I think this energy should be directed at the social networks that enable this misinformation (Facebook mainly, but also YouTube and Twitter) There’s no way they don’t get a blip when “Covid is FAKE #plandemic” gets 20 million views in their “trump owns” groups, this misinformation is directly loving everyone else Arguing with the people who have no filter for these videos and they already believe them is a waste of time, maybe in person it would work but not online Facebook is a criminal enterprise, just to make it clear, and anyone working there is actively harming us(humanity, globally)
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Hazo posted:Did you just mock communism while in the same post advocating for government-provided baseline income? The test of a first rate intelligence...
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Hazo posted:Did you just mock communism while in the same post advocating for government-provided baseline income? Yes, some socialism policies are a very good idea, but old timey communism so far always fucks it up I suppose it’s a matter of degrees/terms, and communism like fascism or whatever you call it always leads to authoritarian states, particularly when it starts with “landlords are the evil!” I don’t really want to get into it because it’s not CSPAM, pm me if you really want to discuss it further, we probably agree more than disagree
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I've made some mistakes in my life, but at least I never decided to exploit people's basic need for shelter for profit then openly declare I'm still entitled to my full share while the entire economy is crumbling around me, trying to get sympathy from people who are in an even worse situation than myself.
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Comfy Fleece Sweater posted:Yes, some socialism policies are a very good idea, but old timey communism so far always fucks it up I believe we probably do, but defending landlords at a time when everything is melting down around us just seems like a weird stand to take.
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How dare anyone own property! The very nerve.
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Raskolnikov2089 posted:How dare anyone own property. How dare they! Username/Post ...agreement? 
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Schadenboner posted:Username/Post ...agreement? Raskolnikov comes from the word raskolniki which means roughly "schismatic" so yes. I contain multitudes.
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Comfy Fleece Sweater posted:Yes, some socialism policies are a very good idea, but old timey communism so far always fucks it up Beyond places that have stupidly inflated real estate prices, if you move around every 6-8 years when changing employer or apartment it is completely possible that you own the apartment, or most of it, at the time you are moving out. Renting the old place out when moving with your new job to new bough apartment somewhere else is completely normal middle class thing to do in most parts of the non-metropolitan area Europe. You'll sell the place when you A) move from your series of hovels into a nicer place to start a family or B) want to cash out for retirement. Or C) your combined family income is enough that you can actually buy the suicide studio in which you need to stay a couple of nights per week at the different city for work, or your children moves into one of the larger cities and needs an apartment that isn't shared-room student housing with a piss-reeking elevator and staircase in the bad part of the town. Der Kyhe fucked around with this message at 19:40 on Jul 30, 2020 |
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this might be a controversial opinion but of the two groups of people, i'm going with let's help the ones who will end up homeless, not let's help the people making income off the people who will be homeless  but i live somewhere where renters have the overwhelming majority of rights compared to landlords so what do i know
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zer0spunk posted:this might be a controversial opinion but of the two groups of people, i'm going with let's help the ones who will end up homeless, not let's help the people making income off the people who will be homeless It’s not controversial, the problem is how to decide who gets help, and who gets to decide, and why shouldn’t the government shoulder this burden instead of private citizens, with just a fraction of the military budget they could do it, why bail out the huge businesses when a fraction of that money could fix this, the healthcare system is already screwed maybe look at that first, etc etc They couldn’t agree on wearing masks Actually give me a rifle I’m joining the communists
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I. M. Gei posted:I ordered some masks from that MediDent place that’s been advertising on the forums. I ordered them last week, and they were supposed to arrive yesterday, but they’re not here yet and I’m starting to wonder if some funny poo poo is up. Contract drivers are suppose to handle Priority Mail first, then first class mail, then everything else. So what will happen is the (non-USPS worker, but contractor who bid on the job) driver will pick up a load of all the priority mail packages in their delivery area plus the normal mail, drive around delivering all the Priority Mail, then run out of time and take the other mail back. In the morning they'll pick up new Priority Mail plus the mail that didn't get delivered plus whatever is new. This is part of a restructuring of contract workers where they only accept new bids from existing contractors, and will demand contractors consolidate contracts they've signed so that if they can't perform on a new route, they lose all their routes. It's gross.
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Hazo posted:It must be so weird to base your income off of preying on people trying to fulfill the very bottom level of Maslow's hierarchy of needs. By this logic, farmers are scum too. As are the people who prepare food, build houses, or make clothes as their primary income. There is no ethical consumption under capitalism.
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Welcome to fascism. This is in Atlanta.  
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Der Kyhe posted:Beyond places that have stupidly inflated real estate prices, if you move around every 6-8 years when changing employer or apartment it is completely possible that you own the apartment, or most of it, at the time you are moving out. I'm in tech in the usa (e.g. one of the supposed house-buying rich people) and the level of wealth you're describing here as a normal thing, seems like CEO/multi-millionaire wealth to me. I don't own any property lol.
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Schadenboner posted:As much as I'd like to imagine that people will stand shoulder-to-shoulder and square-jawed against plague and fear and economic uncertainty like some Spanish Civil War poster or some poo poo this is not the default behavior of humanity. The altruistic genes that were willing to sacrifice got sacrificed for a bunch of worthless wars.
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Der Kyhe posted:Beyond places that have stupidly inflated real estate prices, if you move around every 6-8 years when changing employer or apartment it is completely possible that you own the apartment, or most of it, at the time you are moving out. I have no loving idea where you have these fantasies from.
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The Strangest Finch posted:How does this actually work? I've heard a little about it, but no one I know personally is in one for first-hand anecdotes? I assume I'm not very far from you. Everything is hosed and stuff is starting to disappear off shelves near Richmond CO. How're yall fairin?
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Azathoth Prime posted:By this logic, farmers are scum too. No, the equivalent to a farmer for houses would be someone who builds houses and sells them to people who need them. Someone who buys them, doesn't sell them, and extracts money from owning them in perpetuity is not the same as someone who creates them and then sells them at a fair price.
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Tom Gorman posted:Someone sell me a fishbowl-style astronaut helmet already. I'll happily wear that poo poo at this point. My company has a set of replica space suits just ungarded at one of the entrances. I keep wondering if I would be stopped for stealing one of them from the building or wearing one of them in public.
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Lazyfire posted:My company has a set of replica space suits just ungarded at one of the entrances. I keep wondering if I would be stopped for stealing one of them from the building or wearing one of them in public. With some questions the only way to get an answer is to get an answer.
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Mithaldu posted:I live in Europe. Northern Europe, Nordics to be more specific, and live anywhere outside capital regions, or other large metropolitan areas such as Malmö or Tampere, and it is actually cheaper to buy than rent stuff, if your salary and other income is enough to get a deal with the bank. 10 year loan and you'll probably pay something similar on the loan payments + HOA fees than with the regular rent, with the added benefit that you can rent out your place when you move out. If you own more than half of the place it is much better idea to just leave it as a rental, than start selling it, and sell it when you actually need the money. Because even then you can A) extend the loan to 20 years, or B) just sell the place. Real estate isn't expensive, if you live somewhere else than the "most expensive hotspots of the country". The county next to where I now live actually gives you a free seaside building plots provided that you build a large enough McMansion on it, this current town selling newly renovated apartment buildings (which used to be in the piss-reek region) starting from something like 45k EUR. And both of them are within 60 minute commute from the central Helsinki. Der Kyhe fucked around with this message at 20:15 on Jul 30, 2020 |
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I was wrestling with 'is owning a home in order to rent it out ethical or not' so I decided to defer to a friend of mine who is way more intelligent than I am, she has a Ph.D in Philosophy. She said "well, I struggle with that question myself as I own a house and rent it out. I think it's ok". She's compromised lol. I plan on buying a house next year and will do so in order to live in it for the rest of my life, but so many people including the real estate agent have tried to convince me to also buy 5 other houses and rent them out to people, and no I just really don't want to be a parasite. Even if I do a good job like my current landlord who is actually a really decent person, I am still preventing other first time home owners from buying a house to actually own and live in, by removing these houses from the supply and driving up the house prices for other first time buyers who have spent years scraping and saving, rather than the own-20-houses landlords who just have to wait a couple of months before they can buy the next house with earnings from all of the houses they already own.
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^^ You can be an ethical landlord only if you make the rent whatever the utility bill is. That way at least the person living there is paying for what they consume and not to benefit your bank account. Schadenboner posted:With some questions the only way to get an answer is to get an answer. I mean, this would be a good time to get fired so I don't have to buy stuff to make sure goddamn tomahawks work right. I avoided the layoffs the company rolled out, but capitalism and the military industrial complex is always going to get you in the end. Lazyfire fucked around with this message at 20:25 on Jul 30, 2020 |
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Der Kyhe posted:Real estate isn't expensive, if you live somewhere else than the "most expensive hotspots of the country".
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