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VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011


Well the president is white so I guess reverse racism isn't real either

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Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
"Systemic biases exist!"
...said the individual.

Medullah
Aug 14, 2003

FEAR MY SHARK ROCKET IT REALLY SUCKS AND BLOWS
I just love that all examples are ones that are constantly being attacked by the right. Omar gets called a literal terrorist, AOC is called dumb and stupid because she has no experience in politics (never mind the obvious irony there)

tek79
Jun 16, 2008


Some effort but can probably be added to:

“America hates immigrants!”
…cried the Somalian refugee elected to Congress who regularly faces death threats and an avalanche of online chatter claiming her to bu an un-American, incestuous, al-Qeda trained traitor hell-bent on destroying the country“

It’s systemically racist against black people!”
…said the black man elected President (twice) who also faced waves of death threats, accusations of treason, unprecedented obstructionism, and an ongoing conspiracy theory that he was a foreign-born Muslim (A notion which was was loudly perpetuated by the current white President over a number of years)

“There’s no opportunity for minorities!”
…said the Hispanic bartender elected to Congress who also faces ongoing death threats, questions about her loyalty to America, was recently called a “loving bitch” by a fellow Congressperson and has entire online threads dedicated to rabid misogyny and racism dedicated entirely to her.

RagnarokAngel
Oct 5, 2006

Black Magic Extraordinaire
No see its fine because those are just freedom of speech, the point is they got those positions.

sweart gliwere
Jul 5, 2005

better to die an evil wizard,
than to live as a grand one.
Pillbug
"the right of self governance" is kind of a paint-huffing doofus way to describe the CSA's purpose. When would African-Americans get in on some of that sweet self-governance? Would there be a second or third secession to restore a state's right to decide its sovereign legal status on slavery, or some kind of perpetual bizarro-KKK liberation insurgency?


Guess that dude's fake outrage about the 3/5 compromise and the undeniable humanity of enslaved persons had a pretty short half-life.

DarkHorse
Dec 13, 2006

Vroom vroom, BEEP BEEP!
Nap Ghost

sweart gliwere posted:

"the right of self governance" is kind of a paint-huffing doofus way to describe the CSA's purpose. When would African-Americans get in on some of that sweet self-governance? Would there be a second or third secession to restore a state's right to decide its sovereign legal status on slavery, or some kind of perpetual bizarro-KKK liberation insurgency?


Guess that dude's fake outrage about the 3/5 compromise and the undeniable humanity of enslaved persons had a pretty short half-life.

Ask him to explain what the 3/5 compromise actually was. I seriously doubt he understands that the south wanted slaves to count as 1 person and 0 votes, and the north thought that was bullshit that inflated the political power of the South.

Same with the Electoral College - it was a way to boost their power, since the electoral college votes were dictated by the number of representatives, and they wanted the weight of slaves' population counted in their favor without actually allowing them to, y'know, be considered people (that could vote)

TinTower
Apr 21, 2010

You don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.

sweart gliwere posted:

"the right of self governance" is kind of a paint-huffing doofus way to describe the CSA's purpose. When would African-Americans get in on some of that sweet self-governance? Would there be a second or third secession to restore a state's right to decide its sovereign legal status on slavery, or some kind of perpetual bizarro-KKK liberation insurgency?


Guess that dude's fake outrage about the 3/5 compromise and the undeniable humanity of enslaved persons had a pretty short half-life.

I prefer just posting this meme; don't waste your time doing massive take-downs with people entrenched in the cult.

Hello Sailor
May 3, 2006

we're all mad here

DarkHorse posted:

Here's the one PragerU video that's actually worth a drat:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcy7qV-BGF4

Holy poo poo. A PragerU video that isn't just libertarianism-laced koolaid. Still scrubbing it from my youtube history immediately, but definitely an amazing video given the source. The speaker is the head of the history department at West Point, which he mentions at the very end of the video.

WoodrowSkillson
Feb 24, 2005

*Gestures at 60 years of Lions history*

Hello Sailor posted:

Holy poo poo. A PragerU video that isn't just libertarianism-laced koolaid. Still scrubbing it from my youtube history immediately, but definitely an amazing video given the source. The speaker is the head of the history department at West Point, which he mentions at the very end of the video.

Older conservatives are the type that really look down on the south as inbred hicks and losers and lump the confederacy in that. They are stil lracist as poo poo, but see the south as the uncouth vulgar type instead of the more refined and hidden type. Redlines are fine but the Klan is bad basically.

Raine
Apr 30, 2013

ACCELERATIONIST SUPERDOOMER



quote:

Fw: Conundrums


HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM








The definition of the word Conundrum is: something that is puzzling or confusing.

Free people are not equal. Equal people are not free. (Think this over..makes sense!)

"A gun is like a parachute. If you need one, and don't have one, you'll probably never need one again."

Here are six Conundrums of socialism in the United States of America:

1. America is capitalist and greedy - yet half of the population is subsidized.

2. Half of the population is subsidized - yet they think they are victims.

3. They think they are victims - yet their representatives run the government.

4. Their representatives run the government - yet the poor keep getting poorer.

5. The poor keep getting poorer - yet they have things that people in other countries only dream about.

6.They have things that people in other countries only dream about - yet they want America to be more like those other countries.

And that, my friends, pretty much sums up the USA in the 21st Century. Makes you wonder who is doing the math.

These three short sentences, tell you a lot about the direction of our current government and cultural environment:

1. We are advised to NOT judge ALL Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics, but we are encouraged to judge ALL gun owners by the actions of a few lunatics.

Funny how that works.

2. Seems we constantly hear about how Social Security is going to run out of money. But we never hear about welfare or food stamps running out of money! What's interesting is the first group "worked for" their money, but the second didn't.

And last but not least:

3. Why are we cutting benefits for our veterans, no pay raises for our military and cutting our army to a level lower than before WWII, but we are not stopping the payments or benefits to illegal aliens.

jivjov
Sep 13, 2007

But how does it taste? Yummy!
Dinosaur Gum
Funny how people don't realIze that social security and food stamps are funded from the same place.

Grimdude
Sep 25, 2006

It was a shame how he carried on
You can only refute poo poo like that point by point so many times before you just write off conservatives as a lost cause.

I can't count the number of times I've seen someone have their point surgically dissected and broken down in front of them only to either move the goalposts or deny their original point altogether. Objectivity means nothing.

the_steve
Nov 9, 2005

We're always hiring!

Grimdude posted:

You can only refute poo poo like that point by point so many times before you just write off conservatives as a lost cause.

I can't count the number of times I've seen someone have their point surgically dissected and broken down in front of them only to either move the goalposts or deny their original point altogether. Objectivity means nothing.

It's only objective if it supports their argument.

ILL Machina
Mar 25, 2004

:italy: Glory to Italia! :italy:

Ayy!! This text is-a the color of marinara! Ohhhh!! Dat's amore!!

Grimdude posted:

You can only refute poo poo like that point by point so many times before you just write off conservatives as a lost cause.

I can't count the number of times I've seen someone have their point surgically dissected and broken down in front of them only to either move the goalposts or deny their original point altogether. Objectivity means nothing.

Yeah this doesn't work. The only hope is the Socratic dialectic. Ask them why they feel a way, what specific event in their life that had codified their belief and made then relate to that view. Then help them talk themselves into their own contradictions.

Proust Malone
Apr 4, 2008

Grimdude posted:

You can only refute poo poo like that point by point so many times before you just write off conservatives as a lost cause.

as a what now?

DarkHorse posted:

Lincoln promised that he wasn't going to outlaw slavery if elected. The (future) CSA states preemptively seceded and then opened fire on Fort Sumpter.

Yeah he said that, but his election was both a repudiation of slavery and a telltale that the southern hold on the federal government was ending. He came to national prominence by 360 between the legs dunking on slavery and southern democrats in his cooper union speech. Everyone knew what they were voting for. It would have been like electing Bernie Sanders and turning Texas blue in the same election. In the meantime, Buchanan's secretary of war was busying scattering arms and cannon throughout the south where they would be safe form John Browns and easily taken by state militias should the need arise.

Proust Malone fucked around with this message at 17:41 on Jul 30, 2020

Scruff McGruff
Feb 13, 2007

Jesus, kid, you're almost a detective. All you need now is a gun, a gut, and three ex-wives.
Had an old classic pop up on my feed

Medullah
Aug 14, 2003

FEAR MY SHARK ROCKET IT REALLY SUCKS AND BLOWS


For the record, this is the Hydroxychloroquine doctor who believes that health issues come from Demon Sperm.

Dr Christmas
Apr 24, 2010

Berninating the one percent,
Berninating the Wall St.
Berninating all the people
In their high rise penthouses!
🔥😱🔥🔫👴🏻
Is alien DNA, which she claims is used in treatments, used for nefarious purposes, or is it used to make better medicine? If the latter, why are we talking about giving people hydroxychloroquine instead of freaking alien DNA?

Is hydroxychloroquine made with alien DNA?

Dr Christmas fucked around with this message at 00:07 on Jul 31, 2020

Sarcastro
Dec 28, 2000
Elite member of the Grammar Nazi Squad that

Medullah posted:


For the record, this is the Hydroxychloroquine doctor who believes that health issues come from Demon Sperm.

For the record, I was happy yesterday making fun of every single one of those stupid quacks.

Medullah
Aug 14, 2003

FEAR MY SHARK ROCKET IT REALLY SUCKS AND BLOWS
Oh god the comments



When is the meteor?

Grimdude
Sep 25, 2006

It was a shame how he carried on
I feel like I can see a clear dotted line that your brain has to cross in order to realize how obviously bullshit that image is. Then I just picture Trump supporters standing there staring at the line just absolutely baffled that most people around them are just casually walking across.

Faustian Bargain
Apr 12, 2014


Medullah posted:

Oh god the comments



When is the meteor?
Piling ridicule on a black doctor because of her bat-poo poo beliefs isn't racist, it's inclusion.

PhantomOfTheCopier
Aug 13, 2008

Pikabooze!
This is like the basketball gorilla experiment. There are two women of color in that picture.


ps At least it sure looks like it to me.

pps From a different angle, that (second) female doctor appears to be Caucasian. Have not yet found her name.

p9s :laugh: https://www.snopes.com/news/2020/07/30/americas-frontline-doctors/

PhantomOfTheCopier fucked around with this message at 03:05 on Jul 31, 2020

Dameius
Apr 3, 2006
If that women in the back is white, as other photos indicate, wouldn't that mean the creator of this specifically darkened the poo poo out of it and caught the woman in the back because they were bad at the work?

Medullah
Aug 14, 2003

FEAR MY SHARK ROCKET IT REALLY SUCKS AND BLOWS

PhantomOfTheCopier posted:

This is like the basketball gorilla experiment. There are two women of color in that picture.


ps At least it sure looks like it to me.

pps From a different angle, that (second) female doctor appears to be Caucasian. Have not yet found her name.

p9s :laugh: https://www.snopes.com/news/2020/07/30/americas-frontline-doctors/

This is great and I wish I could use it as proof, but the people that post this poo poo believe Snopes is run by George Soros and full of lies.

sweart gliwere
Jul 5, 2005

better to die an evil wizard,
than to live as a grand one.
Pillbug

Medullah posted:

This is great and I wish I could use it as proof, but the people that post this poo poo believe Snopes is run by George Soros and full of lies.

Snopes pretty much always has their stuff sourced well, and they only use legit sources for important issues. Tell them to treat it like Wikipedia?

Dameius
Apr 3, 2006

sweart gliwere posted:

Snopes pretty much always has their stuff sourced well, and they only use legit sources for important issues. Tell them to treat it like Wikipedia?

Doesn't matter, the right wing grift machines have already labeled Snopes as liberal bias and no amount of facts or reasons will budge that label.

Invalid Validation
Jan 13, 2008




Just goes to show you how good people have it nowadays since anyone that dumb in any other time in history would have only lived to 30 and would have been dirt poor on top of it.

And I have no fuckin clue what this is even supposed to mean

jivjov
Sep 13, 2007

But how does it taste? Yummy!
Dinosaur Gum
I mean...calling out pedophilia I'm hollywood is definitely a net good...but I can tell that's meant to be an attack on BLM.

Invalid Validation
Jan 13, 2008




Is it supposed to be about pedos?

RagnarokAngel
Oct 5, 2006

Black Magic Extraordinaire

Invalid Validation posted:

Is it supposed to be about pedos?

Presumably it's some QAnon poo poo yeah.

tek79
Jun 16, 2008

IIRC right-wing conspiracy nuts think a bunch Hollywood "elites" are part of a secret cabal of pedophiles. I think it ties into the Qanon poo poo.

Edit: Beaten

Okuteru
Nov 10, 2007

Choose this life you're on your own

Invalid Validation posted:

Just goes to show you how good people have it nowadays since anyone that dumb in any other time in history would have only lived to 30 and would have been dirt poor on top of it.

And I have no fuckin clue what this is even supposed to mean



It's probably an abortion thing.

Pththya-lyi
Nov 8, 2009

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2020

tek79 posted:

IIRC right-wing conspiracy nuts think a bunch Hollywood "elites" are part of a secret cabal of pedophiles. I think it ties into the Qanon poo poo.

Edit: Beaten

Technically they're right about that, it's just that the pedophile cabal members are not also keeping the children underground or sacrificing them to Satan to help Democrats.

a fatguy baldspot
Aug 29, 2018

sweart gliwere posted:

Snopes pretty much always has their stuff sourced well, and they only use legit sources for important issues. Tell them to treat it like Wikipedia?

i mean theres a reason they had to come up with their own wikipedia

sweart gliwere
Jul 5, 2005

better to die an evil wizard,
than to live as a grand one.
Pillbug

a fatguy baldspot posted:

i mean theres a reason they had to come up with their own wikipedia

Schlafly vs Lenski was like listening to a man gone blind from sun-gazing, as he argues passionately that nighttime is 24/7 now.

jivjov
Sep 13, 2007

But how does it taste? Yummy!
Dinosaur Gum
Yeah, Hollywood being fully of child diddlers is not a crazy conspiracy, that's just actually a thing that happens. The conspiracy stuff is whats involving pizzeria basements and poo poo.

That's what I've noticed about a lot of conspiracy theories, they're making things too complicated. "People with a lot of power/money/influence are awful and get away with it because of said power/money/influence" is as deep as it needs to go.

Medullah
Aug 14, 2003

FEAR MY SHARK ROCKET IT REALLY SUCKS AND BLOWS
Maxwell released some stuff yesterday "proving" Bill Clinton among others spent time in pedophile island. Had a Trumper text me "So much for the flawless Democrats!!!!" like there's the same level of cultish love for Clinton as there is for Trump. I think the bulk of Democrats actually don't like the Clintons and would be happy to see a child molester jailed no matter who it was.

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Tequila25
May 12, 2001
Ask me about tapioca.

Dameius posted:

Doesn't matter, the right wing grift machines have already labeled Snopes as liberal bias and no amount of facts or reasons will budge that label.

Take the label off. Just copy the text of the article, remove any mention of Snopes and include the links cited.

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