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Garrand
Dec 28, 2012

Rhino, you did this to me!

Man jumps on to your vehicle and does this



to your window and you're just not gonna do anything at all?

Garrand fucked around with this message at 07:51 on Aug 3, 2020

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Slanderer
May 6, 2007
I would execute an emergency braking maneuver at highway speed that launches the antifa predator from my Rig, before calmly unloading all six rounds from my customized Chiappa Rhino into dirtbag. I would then perform a u-turn on the freeway, inadvertently causing a Tesla’s Autopilot to mistake my trailer for the sky and instantly decapitate its driver as it collides at 70 mph.

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius

Slanderer posted:

I would execute an emergency braking maneuver at highway speed that launches the antifa predator from my Rig, before calmly unloading all six rounds from my customized Chiappa Rhino into dirtbag. I would then perform a u-turn on the freeway, inadvertently causing a Tesla’s Autopilot to mistake my trailer for the sky and instantly decapitate its driver as it collides at 70 mph.

Enjoy your presidential medal of freedom and also your job taking over for Tucker Carlson when the libs cancel him for telling the truth about the socialist metric system.

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin

Garrand posted:

Man jumps on to your vehicle and does this



to your window and you're just not gonna do anything at all?

Stop safely and lock the doors of my enormous truck :shrug:

I mean, unless you have a hard-on for executing the mentally ill

CaptainSarcastic
Jul 6, 2013



It's pretty easy to critique the truck driver from the safety of a computer.

People frequently don't deal well with emergencies - it's well-documented. Having a crazy guy suddenly on your hood trying to beat his way through your windshield is a weird emergency, indeed.

This BBC article documents some of the behaviors that have been noted in people dealing with emergency - I couldn't find a more academic source offhand:

https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20170711-what-not-to-do-in-a-disaster

Evilreaver
Feb 26, 2007

GEORGE IS GETTIN' AUGMENTED!
Dinosaur Gum

Memento posted:

Stop safely and lock the doors of my enormous truck :shrug:

If someone is in the process of breaking a window, I'm not about to count on a window to stop them regardless of the size of the truck I'm in

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin
They're not going to break the window. They'll spiderweb it up nicely, but the person was using their bare hands.

Did you see the blood in the picture? That was their blood, because they have probably done themselves permanent damage to their hands by doing this. They're not the loving terminator, they're not going to just casually put their fist through a windscreen from the outside.

"but whatabout another window, they could climb up the side of the truck and smash another window if you stopped!"

just drive off

PurpleXVI
Oct 30, 2011

Spewing insults, pissing off all your neighbors, betraying your allies, backing out of treaties and accords, and generally screwing over the global environment?
ALL PART OF MY BRILLIANT STRATEGY!
Man if someone was on my windshield pounding away at it while I'm in the middle of the highway I would in no way be reacting rationally. I think expecting perfectly rational behavior from the driver in the middle of an irrational situation is a bit much.

But, uh, entirely aside from that. Do we know how this guy got ON the windshield? Like... did the truck ram someone and they ended up there? Or was it some maniac who leapt on at a rest stop or off a bridge or something?

senrath
Nov 4, 2009

Look Professor, a destruct switch!


PurpleXVI posted:

Man if someone was on my windshield pounding away at it while I'm in the middle of the highway I would in no way be reacting rationally. I think expecting perfectly rational behavior from the driver in the middle of an irrational situation is a bit much.

But, uh, entirely aside from that. Do we know how this guy got ON the windshield? Like... did the truck ram someone and they ended up there? Or was it some maniac who leapt on at a rest stop or off a bridge or something?

From googling it it seems that the guy got out of his own car and waved down the truck, who stopped to see if he needed help.

C.M. Kruger
Oct 28, 2013

Moo the cow posted:

Not the first time it has happened:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLzpQR9iIo4

2015 Jägermeister Pool Party
No deaths, but 9 injured and one put in a coma.

The guy who was in a coma is a nephew of Guillermo del Toro. From what I could find via google translate a while back doctors only gave him a 2% chance of surviving but he did but now has some pretty serious damage to his lungs and pancreas and so on. The people who organized the party apparently fled the country and were never charged with anything IIRC.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Man I really have wanted to make a gasifier for lawn mower specifically....

And now Colin did it before I could.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FK2qK-NCQH8

zedprime
Jun 9, 2007

yospos

Platystemon posted:

Now for a good occupational safety yarn:
It's a bad yarn. Template JSAs, LOTOs, and confined space entry documents will now explicitly put vacuum as a hazard trigger point so jack off engineers like the yarn spinner don't get to give safety guys swirlies while screaming "well actually the vacuum is a lack of atmosphere"

Flash Gordon Ramsay
Sep 28, 2004

Grimey Drawer
Probably old but these things are cool and good. I think I mentioned before that the Stihl Timbersports guys refused to wear them because they'd ruin their expensive custom chainsaw rigs.

https://i.imgur.com/x5WI0Cr.gifv

Submarine Sandpaper
May 27, 2007


Goon gets car jacked.

"TAKE MY WOFE AND CHILDREN TOO SO YOU'LL BE LESS LIKELY TO GET SHOT BY THE POLICE."

Such moral folk post here.

Bum the Sad
Aug 25, 2002
Hell Gem

Submarine Sandpaper posted:

Goon gets car jacked.

"TAKE MY WOFE AND CHILDREN TOO SO YOU'LL BE LESS LIKELY TO GET SHOT BY THE POLICE."

Such moral folk post here.

Well you see goon sir I would just engage my enraged assailant in civil conversation and by the power of my rhetoric they shall be so persuaded as to cease their transgressions.
:goonsay:

madeintaipei
Jul 13, 2012

Submarine Sandpaper posted:

Goon gets car jacked.

"TAKE MY WOFE AND CHILDREN TOO SO YOU'LL BE LESS LIKELY TO GET SHOT BY THE POLICE."

Such moral folk post here.

Leave the wofe, grab the cannoli.

By popular demand
Jul 17, 2007

IT *BZZT* WASP ME--
IT WASP ME ALL *BZZT* ALONG!


Flash Gordon Ramsay posted:

Probably old but these things are cool and good. I think I mentioned before that the Stihl Timbersports guys refused to wear them because they'd ruin their expensive custom chainsaw rigs.

https://i.imgur.com/x5WI0Cr.gifv

What about losing a foot? Would all those tendons and viscera not damage their rig?

Sentient Data
Aug 31, 2011

My molecule scrambler ray will disintegrate your armor with one blow!
Well well you see, not wearing ppe means they're more likely to act in a safe manner since they have their life and limbs literally on the line

:eng99:

Oddhair
Mar 21, 2004

CaptainSarcastic posted:

About CO2, this isn't OSHA but a personal anecdote from my misspent youth. Somehow some idiot acquaintance ended up buying CO2 cartridges instead of nitrous cartridges (we did a lot of nitrous sometimes). Out of curiosity and bravado I decided to see what it would be like to inhale a CO2 cartridge. We had those whipped-cream makers where you just fill the container with gas and then inhale it, if I recall - using balloons was something we moved on from pretty early.

I took a big lungful and then experienced a weird sensation as it felt like my breathing reflex just turned off. It wasn't uncomfortable, and I don't remember getting light-headed or anything, it just felt like I didn't need to breathe. I exhaled and it passed in a minute or so and with no ill-effects that I can recall, but it was a weird feeling. If memory serves healthy breathing is more based on CO2 concentration than oxygen, so I assume the sensors just got flooded for a bit and didn't send the right signals. It did give me an object lesson in what I already was intellectually aware of, that dangerous gaseous environments can be really hard to sense and can sneak up on you.

Thanks for this, I just got a Growlerwerks growler that takes little CO2 cartridges and was wondering what that would be like, and now I don't need to find out. I do need to get some whip its for trying a nitro beer with it, though.

haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



Toilet Rascal
Tendons and viscera are not as strong as whatever that stuff is

By popular demand
Jul 17, 2007

IT *BZZT* WASP ME--
IT WASP ME ALL *BZZT* ALONG!


They can always stop the chainsaws with their big hard balls in that case.

Ugly In The Morning
Jul 1, 2010
Pillbug

zedprime posted:

It's a bad yarn. Template JSAs, LOTOs, and confined space entry documents will now explicitly put vacuum as a hazard trigger point so jack off engineers like the yarn spinner don't get to give safety guys swirlies while screaming "well actually the vacuum is a lack of atmosphere"

This part drove me nuts:

quote:


Issue the third: What assurance is there, that when the chamber is vented back to full atmosphere, there is an adequate percentage of oxygen in the chamber?

Hint: It is a big, big, big mistake here to acknowledge here that the laws of statistical gas dynamics allow for one chance in 10^10^17 (no typo) that the chamber will spontaneously refill with a sufficiently oxygen-poor atmosphere to preclude respiration.

?

Like, that’s a big deal and not nearly as stupid as the author is trying to portray it as. Just because it’s not a vacuum anymore doesn’t mean that it just sucked in regular atmospheric air. You could slurp in a ton of exhaust, argon, CO, whatever the gently caress, depending on what’s in the area. Plus, it was just used to test a giant thruster, so who knows what was floating around in there. It absolutely needs a sniffer before people go in there.

zedprime
Jun 9, 2007

yospos

Ugly In The Morning posted:

This part drove me nuts:


Like, that’s a big deal and not nearly as stupid as the author is trying to portray it as. Just because it’s not a vacuum anymore doesn’t mean that it just sucked in regular atmospheric air. You could slurp in a ton of exhaust, argon, CO, whatever the gently caress, depending on what’s in the area. Plus, it was just used to test a giant thruster, so who knows what was floating around in there. It absolutely needs a sniffer before people go in there.
The whole entry part is the dude being very angry about needing to have a sniffer and some blowers for entries. The "pockets" part is exactly the language you use for any other situation to trigger the engineer to admit if someone has done air exchange calculations for how many blowers and where to stick them because anything that was a sealed vessel usually needs a little help in safe exchanges.

The other part is crying that he might have to document the engineering controls for operation and shutdown.

If an upline manager rubber-stamped it as the story is told operations would be negligent without this paperwork and these actions in place. But I'm expecting that part is STDH and this stuff was actually in place and the upline manager was smoothing over the story teller being a dick about it.

IIRC this was a late 90s usenet post last time it came up so timing might be right for it to have happened in an ignore safety kind of way though. The 90s were so awkward. We knew exactly what we needed to do to avoid the high and low profile accidents of the 70s and 80s and we drug our feet till like 2005 actually doing anything about.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS
Having a sniffer is legit.

Blowers seem to be going down the wrong track, though. Install the intakes where they’re getting clean air, then crack the seal. Why blow air when you have very serious pumps set up to extract gases from the chamber already?

zedprime
Jun 9, 2007

yospos

Platystemon posted:

Having a sniffer is legit.

Blowers seem to be going down the wrong track, though. Install the intakes where they’re getting clean air, then crack the seal. Why blow air when you have very serious pumps set up to extract gases from the chamber already?
Exchange is normally powered at the induction than at the exhaust as over pressure is a little easier to manage than under but if you can do the exchange engineering that says one of your stages of vacuum pumps combined with many or all your ports open will give you your exchange, you do you.

Meanwhile though your 1st stage might already be too strong for the size of open ports to not get into a bad underpressure zone, nevermind that stage is probably meant to run minutes or hours at a time and you can leave an entry blower running for a week without much of a cost in power or maintenance.

Jenny Agutter
Mar 18, 2009

Slanderer posted:

I would execute an emergency braking maneuver at highway speed that launches the antifa predator from my Rig, before calmly unloading all six rounds from my customized Chiappa Rhino into dirtbag. I would then perform a u-turn on the freeway, inadvertently causing a Tesla’s Autopilot to mistake my trailer for the sky and instantly decapitate its driver as it collides at 70 mph.

lol

Jenny Agutter
Mar 18, 2009

goon watching Raiders of the Lost Ark: If a crazy person was clinging to the front of my Mercedes troop carrier I too would try to ram my commanding officer's car to dislodge him, people don't think rationally during these situations

waffleman
Aug 5, 2007

HAPPY INDEPENDENCE DAY
it really ties the nation together
So... I've driven with an angry dude on the hood of my car about 10 years ago.

For context a car full of guys get mad in traffic cause they're poo poo faced and just left the bar. They spend several lights trying to block me in with their car with a few getting out to fight. They're hitting windows etc. Each time I'm able to get past somehow. Finally at yet another light they all get out, driver gets on the hood of my car while his friends beat on the windows, leaving their car with no one in it behind me.

Light turns, I DRIVE. The driver clings to the hood.

When you find yourself with someone on the hood of your car your first instinct will be to swerve to shake him off. I realized almost immediately that him falling off was the worst thing that could happen cause he'd probably get run over and die or be seriously injured. Instead I drove real straight and not overly fast about a half a mile over a bridge watching this guy watch his friends and his car fade into the distance. We get to a stop sign, I stop, he gets off, looks around finding himself alone, punches my rear quarter panel, tells me I'm crazy and walks off to go find his friends/car. I drive away.

Lotta people in this thread with absolutely no idea how terrifying it is to have someone trying to beat their way through your window.

Goons gonna goon but when someone is trying to physically hurt you your first thought isn't "I fear for their safety" or "No big deal, my windshield will not break". It's "I fear for MY safety and why is this dude on the hood of my car, how can I make him stop?".

LifeSunDeath
Jan 4, 2007

still gay rights and smoke weed every day
you should have put on a fedora and thrown your business card with magic the gathering backing, and it reads "Badass" on it, at him then peeled out.

Flash Gordon Ramsay
Sep 28, 2004

Grimey Drawer
The key is finding a pickup truck with the tailgate down. Accelerate toward it and stop abruptly. Now he’s the pickup driver’s problem.

B33rChiller
Aug 18, 2011




In my experience, anybody using the term "safety nazi" is not anyone whose opinions should be listened to. They have all fallen in to the "we work hard and play hard. Git 'er done. What are you, some sorta pussy?" class of idiots, which were extremely where I grew up.

Pissed Ape Sexist
Apr 19, 2008

waffleman posted:

So... I've driven with an angry dude on the hood of my car about 10 years ago.

For context a car full of guys get mad in traffic cause they're poo poo faced and just left the bar. They spend several lights trying to block me in with their car with a few getting out to fight. They're hitting windows etc. Each time I'm able to get past somehow. Finally at yet another light they all get out, driver gets on the hood of my car while his friends beat on the windows, leaving their car with no one in it behind me.

Light turns, I DRIVE. The driver clings to the hood.

When you find yourself with someone on the hood of your car your first instinct will be to swerve to shake him off. I realized almost immediately that him falling off was the worst thing that could happen cause he'd probably get run over and die or be seriously injured. Instead I drove real straight and not overly fast about a half a mile over a bridge watching this guy watch his friends and his car fade into the distance. We get to a stop sign, I stop, he gets off, looks around finding himself alone, punches my rear quarter panel, tells me I'm crazy and walks off to go find his friends/car. I drive away.

Lotta people in this thread with absolutely no idea how terrifying it is to have someone trying to beat their way through your window.

Goons gonna goon but when someone is trying to physically hurt you your first thought isn't "I fear for their safety" or "No big deal, my windshield will not break". It's "I fear for MY safety and why is this dude on the hood of my car, how can I make him stop?".

So under attack and stress you, a regular civilian dude(?), were able to keep your head clear enough to get the guy off your car without injury or further incident. If you were a professional driver, 7' off the ground, in a huge vehicle, in broad daylight, and it was one dude instead of a mob of drunks, would you haver been more or less likely to panic? Or was that truck driver just an rear end in a top hat actively trying to get a guy (out of his loving mind though he was) killed? I dunno man, this derail is getting dumb, sorry

Moo the cow
Apr 30, 2020

Pissed Ape Sexist posted:

So under attack and stress you, a regular civilian dude(?), were able to keep your head clear enough to get the guy off your car without injury or further incident. If you were a professional driver, 7' off the ground, in a huge vehicle, in broad daylight, and it was one dude instead of a mob of drunks, would you haver been more or less likely to panic? Or was that truck driver just an rear end in a top hat actively trying to get a guy (out of his loving mind though he was) killed? I dunno man, this derail is getting dumb, sorry

Wow, truck driver training in the US is pretty hardcore if they include how to survive attacks by crazed lunatics.

Do they also include aligator-wrestling if you take the training in the southern states?

zedprime
Jun 9, 2007

yospos

B33rChiller posted:

In my experience, anybody using the term "safety nazi" is not anyone whose opinions should be listened to. They have all fallen in to the "we work hard and play hard. Git 'er done. What are you, some sorta pussy?" class of idiots, which were extremely where I grew up.
It can be a little more subtle than that. The general management mood of the past 20 or 30 years is focused on Functional Excellence. This is a term that literally means you hire engineers to engineer, safety folks to run safety programs, logistics planners to keep the trucks moving, purchasers to manage raw materials, IT to do computer things etc. But now everyone has their own boss with their own agenda so it figuratively means operations is one gladiator in a pitched fight for their jobs and cost of living raises fighting against the safety, logistics, purchasing, and IT functions. If your locus of control is even slightly external suddenly every coworker is an idiot out to gently caress you over while a middle manager steeples his fingers waiting for someone to make a mistake so they can be replaced by a college grad pulling half the salary.

Cartoon Man
Jan 31, 2004


https://i.imgur.com/kqhmjx7.gifv

Space Kablooey
May 6, 2009



what the gently caress

hemale in pain
Jun 5, 2010




HardDiskD posted:

what the gently caress

probably high as hell

LifeSunDeath
Jan 4, 2007

still gay rights and smoke weed every day
he got hosed up, drat

haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



Toilet Rascal
Is that guy alive?

Is he still alive after the mechanism gets a good grip on his jacket, pants, hair, etc?

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LifeSunDeath
Jan 4, 2007

still gay rights and smoke weed every day

haveblue posted:

Is that guy alive?

Is he still alive after the mechanism gets a good grip on his jacket, pants, hair, etc?

that escalated quickly

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