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Tankakern: Jul 25, 2007

very carefully

# ? Jun 4, 2020 17:00

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# ? May 28, 2024 17:31

Farmer Crack-Ass: Jan 2, 2001; this is me posting irl

Chumbawumba4ever97 posted:

this is so funny because back in the day i absolutely refused to get a directx 9 or 10 video card (i forgot which one they disabled it in) because i used to do this very thing with my old rear end setup in the early 2000s.

basically if you had a video card with tv-outputs on it (most common was s-video), your TV would act like a second display, but for videos only. so if you had the TV connected, and you double clicked a video file, it would play on the TV. even cooler was if you simply visited a website that had a video embedded in it, it would play the video in full screen on the TV, even if the video player in the website didn't have a full screen option. it left you to do whatever you wanted to on your PC while the TV strictly handled video files

i believe they got rid of it for some idiotic copyright reasons. i remembered being so incredibly pissed. this had to be like 2003 or so

sorry for the derail

that is pretty cool. isn't it amazing how some things just get worse over time?

HELLOMYNAMEIS___ posted:

So, following instructions from the laptop vendor's support, I reinstalled Windows. The pen is not shown in Device Manager at all, not even as a hidden device.

There are no drivers available for the pen at the support site. It is an Acer Active Stylus, so the manufacturer's own solution and not eg. something by Wacom.

How do I get Windows to detect & install the pen as a HID?

based on your previous posts it sounds like something got hosed up when the touchscreen was replaced - like either someone forgot to reconnect a cable, or accidentally damaged the cable in the process, or the replacement part is defective. i'm not sure you can fix this one in software.

# ? Jun 4, 2020 17:09

Farmer Crack-Ass: Jan 2, 2001; this is me posting irl

just keep banging on vendor support until they agree to either service it again or replace it altogether

# ? Jun 4, 2020 17:10

Samuel L. ACKSYN: Feb 29, 2008

intel core i7 10700k and a gigabyte rx 580 on a corsair RM550x 550w power supply, good idea or bad idea?

it looks like the rx 580 can hit up to around 200 watts and the 10700k could hit like 250w peak but idk i dont think i play any games or do stuff thats going to be hitting both the cpu and gpu hard at the same time

# ? Jun 9, 2020 00:06

bobbilljim: May 29, 2013; this christmas feels like the very first christmas to me

Can't say I'm an expert but there's not a huge price difference in getting a higher wattage psu, I would just get an overkill one and have it be running well under capacity. Hopefully it is less likely to kill 6 hdds or whatever then

# ? Jun 9, 2020 00:44

Mr. Nice!: Oct 13, 2005; bone shaking.
soul baking.

i have a question: where is your desire to rip threads? because you won't be ripping threads. threads are happiest when they're ripped, and you want happy threads to have a good computing experience.

# ? Jun 9, 2020 00:50

bobbilljim: May 29, 2013; this christmas feels like the very first christmas to me

Mr. Nice! posted:

i have a question: where is your desire to rip threads?

Samuel L. ACKSYN posted:

i dont play any games or do stuff

# ? Jun 9, 2020 01:10

Samuel L. ACKSYN: Feb 29, 2008

bobbilljim posted:

Can't say I'm an expert but there's not a huge price difference in getting a higher wattage psu, I would just get an overkill one and have it be running well under capacity. Hopefully it is less likely to kill 6 hdds or whatever then

im upgrading my haswell based pc but the power supply is only about 4 months old so i was gonna just reuse it

since power supplies dont seem to be exactly "in stock" right now

# ? Jun 9, 2020 01:10

Samuel L. ACKSYN: Feb 29, 2008

i have desire for ripping threads

alas, i shamefully must admit my biggest personal failing... i do hackintosh stuff. mac os does not enjoy threads being ripped, only threads being hyper. im sorry

# ? Jun 9, 2020 01:16

Samuel L. ACKSYN: Feb 29, 2008

ok yeah 550w probably is cutting it too close. i ordered a corsair rm850x 850w psu, prob. overkill but stock levels of quality psus seems to be iffy and it was in stock.

and all i had to do was admit my shamefully hackintoshery

# ? Jun 9, 2020 01:33

Mr. Nice!: Oct 13, 2005; bone shaking.
soul baking.

Samuel L. ACKSYN posted:

i have desire for ripping threads

alas, i shamefully must admit my biggest personal failing... i do hackintosh stuff. mac os does not enjoy threads being ripped, only threads being hyper. im sorry

makes sense. godspeed you mac hackputer.

# ? Jun 9, 2020 01:41

flakeloaf: Feb 26, 2003; Still better than android clock

hello thread, i have a computer problem

on any browser on this windows 10 computer only, trying to get to some websites makes me wait all day for a TLS handshake with some akamaized.net internet place

other win10 and linux computers on the local network do not have this problem, so it's not my isp; and chome, firefox and both edges all do it on this machine, so it's not a browser setting

how did i break my computer?

# ? Jul 27, 2020 19:10

Tankakern: Jul 25, 2007

very carefully

# ? Jul 27, 2020 20:46

FMguru: Sep 10, 2003; peed on;
sexually

flakeloaf posted:

hello thread, i have a computer problem

on any browser on this windows 10 computer only, trying to get to some websites makes me wait all day for a TLS handshake with some akamaized.net internet place

other win10 and linux computers on the local network do not have this problem, so it's not my isp; and chome, firefox and both edges all do it on this machine, so it's not a browser setting

how did i break my computer?

i think what you have there is an problem with your computers os

its a "pos" (to use the preferred technical term)

# ? Jul 27, 2020 20:50

Helianthus Annuus: Feb 21, 2006; can i touch your hand; Grimey Drawer

flakeloaf posted:

hello thread, i have a computer problem

on any browser on this windows 10 computer only, trying to get to some websites makes me wait all day for a TLS handshake with some akamaized.net internet place

other win10 and linux computers on the local network do not have this problem, so it's not my isp; and chome, firefox and both edges all do it on this machine, so it's not a browser setting

how did i break my computer?

idk op

is it the system clock? wrong time zone?

# ? Jul 27, 2020 21:04

flakeloaf: Feb 26, 2003; Still better than android clock

Helianthus Annuus posted:

is it the system clock? wrong time zone?

good thought

both clock and time zone are set to sync automatically, and they are correct

# ? Jul 27, 2020 22:37

bobbilljim: May 29, 2013; this christmas feels like the very first christmas to me

flakeloaf posted:

hello thread, i have a computer problem

on any browser on this windows 10 computer only, trying to get to some websites makes me wait all day for a TLS handshake with some akamaized.net internet place

other win10 and linux computers on the local network do not have this problem, so it's not my isp; and chome, firefox and both edges all do it on this machine, so it's not a browser setting

how did i break my computer?

I think your dedicated porn machine has developed a virus

# ? Jul 27, 2020 22:46

Agile Vector: May 21, 2007; scrum bored

maybe some consumer security software has added some wonky certs or is trying to use their own dns? i think norton and mcafee do that sort of thing now

# ? Jul 27, 2020 22:48

flakeloaf: Feb 26, 2003; Still better than android clock

Agile Vector posted:

wonky certs

a very strong possibility, yeah

quote:

or is trying to use their own dns?

i switched dns servers from opendns to cira, problem persists

quote:

i think norton and mcafee do that sort of thing

i would definitely deserve hell for installing either

# ? Jul 27, 2020 23:05

Helianthus Annuus: Feb 21, 2006; can i touch your hand; Grimey Drawer

flakeloaf posted:

good thought

thx i got it by looking at your av

maybe you should see if you can reproduce the problem with curl, then give it -v until it tells you whats wrong

# ? Jul 28, 2020 00:23

Lysidas: Jul 26, 2002; John Diefenbaker is a madman who thinks he's John Diefenbaker.; Pillbug

you should be able to fix this by booting from a linux live dvd or usb disk, and, assuming your os install is on /dev/sda:

if a spinny hard disk, run 'dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda', it will take a little while
if a ssd, run 'blkdiscard /dev/sda', this will be a lot faster

hth

# ? Jul 28, 2020 04:11

flakeloaf: Feb 26, 2003; Still better than android clock

Helianthus Annuus posted:

maybe you should see if you can reproduce the problem with curl, then give it -v until it tells you whats wrong

https://pastebin.com/yGsrSbLr

yes, very interesting

it's me, i'm the non-linux user who is very lost

e: i thought i was a good negotiator

quote:

E:\Inbox>curl -L -i -v us.shop.battle.net/en-us --verbose
* Trying 137.221.106.102:80...
* Connected to us.shop.battle.net (137.221.106.102) port 80 (#0)
> GET /en-us HTTP/1.1
> Host: us.shop.battle.net
> User-Agent: curl/7.71.1
> Accept: */*
>
* Mark bundle as not supporting multiuse
< HTTP/1.1 302 302
HTTP/1.1 302 302
< Date: Sat, 01 Aug 2020 15:59:48 GMT
Date: Sat, 01 Aug 2020 15:59:48 GMT
< Server: Apache
Server: Apache
< Retry-After: 600
Retry-After: 600
< Set-Cookie: login.cookies=1; Domain=battle.net; Path=/
Set-Cookie: login.cookies=1; Domain=battle.net; Path=/
< Location: https://us.shop.battle.net/en-us
Location: https://us.shop.battle.net/en-us
< Content-Length: 0
Content-Length: 0

<
* Connection #0 to host us.shop.battle.net left intact
* Issue another request to this URL: 'https://us.shop.battle.net/en-us'
* Trying 137.221.106.102:443...
* Connected to us.shop.battle.net (137.221.106.102) port 443 (#1)
* ALPN, offering h2
* ALPN, offering http/1.1
* successfully set certificate verify locations:
* CAfile: E:\Inbox\curl-ca-bundle.crt
CApath: none
* TLSv1.3 (OUT), TLS handshake, Client hello (1):
* TLSv1.3 (IN), TLS handshake, Server hello (2):
* TLSv1.2 (IN), TLS handshake, Certificate (11):
* TLSv1.2 (IN), TLS handshake, Server key exchange (12):
* TLSv1.2 (IN), TLS handshake, Server finished (14):
* TLSv1.2 (OUT), TLS handshake, Client key exchange (16):
* TLSv1.2 (OUT), TLS change cipher, Change cipher spec (1):
* TLSv1.2 (OUT), TLS handshake, Finished (20):
* TLSv1.2 (IN), TLS handshake, Finished (20):
* SSL connection using TLSv1.2 / ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384
* ALPN, server did not agree to a protocol
* Server certificate:
* subject: businessCategory=Private Organization; jurisdictionC=US; jurisdictionST=Delaware; serialNumber=3876899; C=US; ST=California; L=Irvine; O=Blizzard Entertainment, Inc.; CN=shop.battle.net
* start date: Sep 5 00:00:00 2018 GMT
* expire date: Nov 4 12:00:00 2020 GMT
* subjectAltName: host "us.shop.battle.net" matched cert's "us.shop.battle.net"
* issuer: C=US; O=DigiCert Inc; OU=www.digicert.com; CN=DigiCert SHA2 Extended Validation Server CA
* SSL certificate verify ok.
> GET /en-us HTTP/1.1
> Host: us.shop.battle.net
> User-Agent: curl/7.71.1
> Accept: */*

flakeloaf fucked around with this message at 17:00 on Aug 1, 2020

# ? Aug 1, 2020 16:52

Helianthus Annuus: Feb 21, 2006; can i touch your hand; Grimey Drawer

code:

* CAfile: E:\Inbox\curl-ca-bundle.crt

that seems like a weird place for it!

maybe run the same curl on a computer that doesn't have a problem and see if there are any other interesting differences

# ? Aug 1, 2020 18:56

Helianthus Annuus: Feb 21, 2006; can i touch your hand; Grimey Drawer

code:

CApath: none

is also potentially interesteing

# ? Aug 1, 2020 19:04

Jonny 290: May 5, 2005; [ASK] me about OS/2 Warp

> CAfile: E:\Inbox\curl-ca-bundle.crt

uhh wat

# ? Aug 2, 2020 00:28

flakeloaf: Feb 26, 2003; Still better than android clock

All the stuff that came with curl got unzipped in the garbage barn directory where downloads go but yeah, why does it have its own certificates

# ? Aug 2, 2020 02:39

spankmeister: Jun 15, 2008

That's just OpenSSL quirks. Don't quote me on this but iirc if you have a CA bundle file, you don't need the CApath set. With the CAPath it would have all the certificates in a directory where it would look for them. With the CAfile it's just one big file containing all of the trusted CA's.

I'm guessing this is a janky standalone build of curl and it comes with its own ca file. It's more than likely some version of the Mozilla CA bundle.

# ? Aug 2, 2020 08:37

Helianthus Annuus: Feb 21, 2006; can i touch your hand; Grimey Drawer

hang on tho, so you still had a problem with slow https when using curl, even though its using a totally different set of libs and certs from your browser??

or did it work at the usual speed?

# ? Aug 3, 2020 21:53

Helianthus Annuus: Feb 21, 2006; can i touch your hand; Grimey Drawer

it might be fun to know how long each step takes. try adding this to your curl cmd in addition to -v (short for --verbose)

code:

       --trace-time
              Prepends a time stamp to each trace or verbose line that curl displays.

              Added in 7.14.0.

if its still not telling you anything interesting, you could try giving it --trace-ascii instead of --verbose

# ? Aug 4, 2020 00:58

flakeloaf: Feb 26, 2003; Still better than android clock

Helianthus Annuus posted:

hang on tho, so you still had a problem with slow https when using curl, even though its using a totally different set of libs and certs from your browser??

or did it work at the usual speed?

with the curl command you suggested I get the same instant response from both a known-good pc and this one:

code:

20:30:56.312000 <
20:30:56.328000 * Connection #0 to host bnetshopus.akamaized.net left intact
20:30:56.328000 * Issue another request to this URL: 'https://us.shop.battle.net/'
20:30:56.406000 *   Trying 137.221.106.102...
20:30:56.406000 * TCP_NODELAY set
20:30:56.484000 * Connected to us.shop.battle.net (137.221.106.102) port 443 (#1)
20:30:56.500000 * schannel: SSL/TLS connection with us.shop.battle.net port 443 (step 1/3)
20:30:56.500000 * schannel: checking server certificate revocation
20:30:56.515000 * schannel: sending initial handshake data: sending 189 bytes...
20:30:56.531000 * schannel: sent initial handshake data: sent 189 bytes
20:30:56.531000 * schannel: SSL/TLS connection with us.shop.battle.net port 443 (step 2/3)
20:30:56.531000 * schannel: failed to receive handshake, need more data
20:30:56.609000 * schannel: SSL/TLS connection with us.shop.battle.net port 443 (step 2/3)
20:30:56.609000 * schannel: encrypted data got 3612
20:30:56.625000 * schannel: encrypted data buffer: offset 3612 length 4096
20:30:56.750000 * schannel: sending next handshake data: sending 126 bytes...
20:30:56.843000 * schannel: SSL/TLS connection with us.shop.battle.net port 443 (step 2/3)
20:30:56.843000 * schannel: encrypted data got 274
20:30:56.859000 * schannel: encrypted data buffer: offset 274 length 4096
20:30:56.859000 * schannel: SSL/TLS handshake complete
20:30:56.875000 * schannel: SSL/TLS connection with us.shop.battle.net port 443 (step 3/3)
20:30:56.875000 * schannel: stored credential handle in session cache
20:30:56.890000 > GET / HTTP/1.1
20:30:56.890000 > Host: us.shop.battle.net
20:30:56.890000 > User-Agent: curl/7.55.1
20:30:56.890000 > Accept: */*

(and so on into some javascript and more encrypted chatter)

in a browser here, i get "performing a tls handshake to bnetshopus.akamaized.net" and after about five minutes of waiting i get some bastardized version of the site that reminds me of what it was like to see the modern internet in 2003 with netscape 4.0

in a browser on a known-good pc, typing bnetshopus.akamaized.net redirects me to a fully-functional bnet shop

I tried comparing the certificate stores on both machines and it seems each computer has ones the other doesn't -- and windows helpfully warns me that any changes i try to make will be cheerfully reverted

flakeloaf fucked around with this message at 01:37 on Aug 4, 2020

# ? Aug 4, 2020 01:35

Helianthus Annuus: Feb 21, 2006; can i touch your hand; Grimey Drawer

that curl looks fine, i guess its not affected for some reason

i think you gotta do the same thing (extra verbose logging) but in your browser. i dunno how to do that, but i found this https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Debugging/HTTP_logging

# ? Aug 4, 2020 02:39

flakeloaf: Feb 26, 2003; Still better than android clock

yikes that stuff is like, a meg a second

# ? Aug 4, 2020 03:42

NoneMoreNegative: Jul 20, 2000; GOTH FASCISTIC
PAIN MASTER

shit wizard dad

Anyone knowledgeable about Docker and making Bind Mounts? I'm trying to get files saved from a containerised SABnzbd out to the host file system and I don't know what the gently caress; Putty / CLI stuff is not my fort�.

I have read through https://docs.docker.com/storage/bind-mounts/ and I think I understand the general syntax, but some help would be appreciated.

# ? Aug 16, 2020 22:07

Jonny 290: May 5, 2005; [ASK] me about OS/2 Warp

are you trying to build a command line or do you have a gui or something you're working with?

# ? Aug 16, 2020 22:13

NoneMoreNegative: Jul 20, 2000; GOTH FASCISTIC
PAIN MASTER

shit wizard dad

Jonny 290 posted:

are you trying to build a command line or do you have a gui or something you're working with?

Command line, the Asustor version of Docker-ce I have installed doesn't seem to have the friendly gui I've seen on how-to videos from other nas manufacturers.

I can build the correct command

$ SUDO docker run -d -it --name devtest --mount type=bind,source=/volume1/Docker/SABnzbd/config/Downloads/complete,target=/volume1/Media,bind-propagation=rslave IMAGE:IMAGE

but I'm not sure what Image I should be using to build the container, I'm missing basic knowledge about what the image will actually set up in the new container.

I can workaround with the file locations in the docker folder, but this should be doable.

# ? Aug 16, 2020 22:29

Jonny 290: May 5, 2005; [ASK] me about OS/2 Warp

hmm reading up now. i had a theory but im double checking

# ? Aug 16, 2020 22:41

Jonny 290: May 5, 2005; [ASK] me about OS/2 Warp

yeah i cant find any references to what the asustor sabnzbd docker image is sorry

# ? Aug 16, 2020 22:45

NoneMoreNegative: Jul 20, 2000; GOTH FASCISTIC
PAIN MASTER

shit wizard dad

No probs, thanks for the cardboard programmer* - I looked up alternative Docker frontends and Portainer is available on Asustor. It's definitely one of those Open Source frontends where you have to know it to use it, but a bit googling and I figured where the container -> host mapping was hidden away. Just ran a test nzb and it all seems to be squared away fine :cool:

*is this a thing elsewhere? where you ask a question and that gets you working on a different solution yourself?

# ? Aug 16, 2020 22:56

Jonny 290: May 5, 2005; [ASK] me about OS/2 Warp

oh yeah. i use portainer to manage the docker poo poo on my nas. perfect!

# ? Aug 17, 2020 00:01

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# ? May 28, 2024 17:31

bobbilljim: May 29, 2013; this christmas feels like the very first christmas to me

NoneMoreNegative posted:

No probs, thanks for the cardboard programmer* - I looked up alternative Docker frontends and Portainer is available on Asustor. It's definitely one of those Open Source frontends where you have to know it to use it, but a bit googling and I figured where the container -> host mapping was hidden away. Just ran a test nzb and it all seems to be squared away fine

*is this a thing elsewhere? where you ask a question and that gets you working on a different solution yourself?

I was taught this as the "rubber duck" technique. you first explain your problem / question to a rubber duck and this leads u to the solution. yes i paid $40k to learn about talking to a rubber duck in university

# ? Aug 17, 2020 00:11

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