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It doesn't sound great https://twitter.com/tobiaschneider/status/1290716494528155648
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bij posted:All those little flashes in the initial fire are small arms ammo cooking off. I don't think so. Small arms fire just makes tiny pop/crackles when it's set on fire, to the point where it's pretty unimpressive and even hard to catch on camera audio unless you're right next to it. Those definitely seem like fireworks
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https://twitter.com/HachemYassin/status/1290702640930791424 https://www.fleetmon.com/maritime-news/2014/4194/crew-kept-hostages-floating-bomb-mv-rhosus-beirut/ They've had a derelict pile of Ammonium Nitrate sitting in the middle of their primary port FOR SEVEN YEARS?!
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Sounds like it might have been caused by something incredibly stupid https://twitter.com/Josiensor/status/1290749177157345285
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Israel says they are not involved in the esplosion - IDF not quoting this out of some racism more irony that Israel has to say this every time an explosion happens.
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WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:Israel says they are not involved in the esplosion - IDF Not getting into it but a bunch of Israeli officials are offering to help, and I hope it works out and Lebanon takes it, because honestly they're going to need every tiny bit of help they can get.
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Brown Moses posted:Sounds like it might have been caused by something incredibly stupid so the fireworks cooking off nearby would have been just coincidental and not a causative factor in touching off the larger explosion? it's possible, but it seems like too much of a coincidence to be credible
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Aug 4, 2020 21:58
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Bellingcat is doing their thing and collecting and correlating social media videos. https://www.bellingcat.com/news/mena/2020/08/04/what-just-blew-up-in-beirut/
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This really gives a sense of the size of the explosion https://twitter.com/vpkivimaki/status/1290746071099072523
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The scale of that is just horrifying. Reminds me of heritage minute videos of the Halifax explosion.
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Aug 4, 2020 22:24
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a pipe smoking dog posted:Wasn't Lebanon already suffering hyperinflation? I can't think that blowing up Beirut's port and main grain silo is going to improve the food supply. Always with the negative takes? Why wouldn't you instead see this as an excellent investment opportunity in real estate, half of the demolition is already done and now you just have to level the rubble so you can start building hotels and casinos on top! Turn those lemons into lemonade and I'm sure some of it will trickle down to the locals!
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Aug 4, 2020 23:06
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TasogareNoKagi posted:https://twitter.com/HachemYassin/status/1290702640930791424 This is drat near identical to what happened in Cyprus in 2011. Where the government put some confiscated stuff out in the sun and forgot about it until... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evangelos_Florakis_Naval_Base_explosion Thankfully that was in a semi-remote area (though it did gently caress up a power station). Unlike say.... the main port of the country like this one was.
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Aug 4, 2020 23:17
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Just prepare yourselves for "the jews nuked Lebanon" conspiracies. Even though Israel is offering to help. Nazis / Jew haters assorted will claim they did this to bring lebanon under the care of Israel.
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Grape posted:This is drat near identical to what happened in Cyprus in 2011. Where the government put some confiscated stuff out in the sun and forgot about it until... Speaking of this  Pretty wild that this was a crate beforehand
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Charliegrs posted:This reminds me exactly of an explosion that happened in China a few years ago. There was some kind of very explosive material stored in a warehouse in a port that somehow caught fire. There was a big boom, and people started recording the aftermath from nearby buildings. Then an even bigger explosion occured killing tons of people in a pretty wide radius including some of the people filming. It's pretty awful to watch. I remember that one, that was pretty bad. 
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Aug 4, 2020 23:26
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GhostofJohnMuir posted:so the fireworks cooking off nearby would have been just coincidental and not a causative factor in touching off the larger explosion? it's possible, but it seems like too much of a coincidence to be credible iirc that kind of explosion needs a shock wave to kick it off.
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kiimo posted:Right but I mean look at the roof of each building by the blast point. buildings have huge surface areas so overpressure just annihilates them, especially metal sheet warehouses. the grain silo only partially collapsed, and notice the concrete buildings standing. of course, anyone inside is probably dead or deaf Brown Moses posted:Sounds like it might have been caused by something incredibly stupid dunno, at least seems to have successfully prevented theft
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Charliegrs posted:This reminds me exactly of an explosion that happened in China a few years ago. There was some kind of very explosive material stored in a warehouse in a port that somehow caught fire. There was a big boom, and people started recording the aftermath from nearby buildings. Then an even bigger explosion occured killing tons of people in a pretty wide radius including some of the people filming. It's pretty awful to watch. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nr6Tlu0EvM
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Charliegrs posted:This reminds me exactly of an explosion that happened in China a few years ago. There was some kind of very explosive material stored in a warehouse in a port that somehow caught fire. There was a big boom, and people started recording the aftermath from nearby buildings. Then an even bigger explosion occured killing tons of people in a pretty wide radius including some of the people filming. It's pretty awful to watch. 
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I have a feeling this is going to be a hell of a rallying cry against Lebanon's broke rear end government. Judges were told several times over by customs officials over the years that this was a disaster waiting to happen and the ammonium nitrate needed to be sold or exported or something, and nothing was done. As recently as 6 months ago port authority said that it was a dangerous situation with the climate and the conditions, and that it had the potential to blow up Beirut. Add in that it was all shoved in bags in a warehouse right next to fireworks storage, where they evidently decided to let men weld, and it's a goddamn cocktail of incompetence. 2,700 tons compared to the 2 1/2 tons used in the Oklahoma City bombing.
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WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:Just prepare yourselves for "the jews nuked Lebanon" conspiracies. Even though Israel is offering to help. Nazis / Jew haters assorted will claim they did this to bring lebanon under the care of Israel. I don't think they had anything to do with this particular incident but Israel has played a leading role in wrecking Lebanon so shut the gently caress up.
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Veterans Today has you covered for "Israel Nuked Beirut" coverage: https://twitter.com/veteranstoday/status/1290789628778184704 https://twitter.com/veteranstoday/status/1290967269837803521
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yea Israel clearly had nothing to do with this but I do love the coy 'why would so many middle eastern sources think Israel would do something to hurt their best friend Lebanon?! Must hate Jews...' some of the people take on it. You can just say 'nah this super clearly seems to be a tragic accident, no need to blame any outside source on it'.
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Yeah, I mean, I saw a giant explosion in Beirut and my first thought was "Israel". I dont believe that now as the facts have come out, but it's COMPLETELY UNDERSTANDABLE as that is a reputation they built themselves through their own actions.
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someone decided to just let massive sacks of ammonium nitrate double stacked in a massive warehouse just chill for 7 years? yikes
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Probably going to see a lot more incidents like these across the world as public institutions and safety processes decay.
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Google Butt posted:someone decided to just let massive sacks of ammonium nitrate double stacked in a massive warehouse just chill for 7 years? yikes What's really amazing is that this stash wasn't stolen by any number of militias or intelligence agencies or criminal gangs.
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Count Roland posted:What's really amazing is that this stash wasn't stolen by any number of militias or intelligence agencies or criminal gangs. A whole bunch of it was reportedly sold off over the years - again, there are estimates that it was down to as few as fifty tonnes by the time it blew. It's just that it takes a long time to find buyers when you've got that much nitrate to sell.
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Aug 5, 2020 18:12
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in before the conspiracy that the cache was known to intelligence agencies and they blew it up
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Google Butt posted:in before the conspiracy that the cache was known to intelligence agencies and they blew it up You are certainly not in before that because pretty sure that was being propagated like 30 minutes after this happened yesterday.
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Google Butt posted:in before the conspiracy that the cache was known to intelligence agencies and they blew it up This is Lebanon, that sort of thing is hardly a conspiracy, it's the daily experience of the country since the mid 70s. Not saying it wasn't an accident though.
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SpaceCadetBob posted:You are certainly not in before that because pretty sure that was being propagated like 30 minutes after this happened yesterday. oh
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Aug 5, 2020 18:29
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Chuckling thinking about about how many organizations around the world are now hunting for lost piles of fertilizer
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SpaceCadetBob posted:You are certainly not in before that because pretty sure that was being propagated like 30 minutes after this happened yesterday. I wonder who could be pushing out that propaganda and why? https://twitter.com/siberian_times/status/1290984181745377280?s=19
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taqueso posted:Chuckling thinking about about how many organizations around the world are now hunting for lost piles of fertilizer None of them are. This is far from the first time a ton of ammonium nitrate has blown the gently caress up.
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Redgrendel2001 posted:I wonder who could be pushing out that propaganda and why? I'm pretty sure lunatics on the internet can spread conspiracy theories without it instantly being the dastardly, perfidious Rus to blame.
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forkboy84 posted:I'm pretty sure lunatics on the internet can spread conspiracy theories without it instantly being the dastardly, perfidious Rus to blame. That's just the sort of thing a Russian bot would say.
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Count Roland posted:What's really amazing is that this stash wasn't stolen by any number of militias or intelligence agencies or criminal gangs. I mean if the whole they were wielding up a hole to stop people from stealing it thing is right then, the hell. No leave the hole open. They could of been solving the problem for you!
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