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https://www.eurogamer.net/amp/2020-08-05-chasing-storm-isais-in-microsoft-flight-sim Eurogamer went storm chasing
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cool new Metroid game posted:I'm not getting any performance issues with trackir but there's some weird poo poo happening where if I pause trackir the viewpoint skips about every few seconds, plus some other weird crap like the flight planner world map also skipping about every few seconds if I have trackir on. Some people have posted about it in the beta forums and I've submitted a bug report. I guess specifically I'm trying to use opentrack, and my performance just tanks. It's likely the fact that i'm still using a haswell i5, but when I'm not using it the performance is like night and day.
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Sagebrush posted:The beta only has one livery for each plane, and no real-world airlines are represented -- it's all either generic colors or manufacturer logos. I would expect that's not representative and the full version will at least have a couple of color options for each. I agree that it would be cool to have the correct liveries loaded if you have them installed. But like 90% of the jets around here are Southwest and the game doesn't even have a 737 so how is that going to work??
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cool new Metroid game posted:I'm not getting any performance issues with trackir but there's some weird poo poo happening where if I pause trackir the viewpoint skips about every few seconds, plus some other weird crap like the flight planner world map also skipping about every few seconds if I have trackir on. Some people have posted about it in the beta forums and I've submitted a bug report. I get this too. It's like they activated TrackIR, but didn't bother to deactivate their "look where we want you to look" code. It's a huge improvement over the first few builds, but still pretty jarring.
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I found a video showing my city, Helsinki, in MSFS2020. The general layout and buildings look fine. Olympic stadium and smaller sport fields looked ok'ish. It didn't have any landmarks though. All the major churches were missing and there are a couple of towers also. Which is funny because in the old sims they were pretty much the only correct things in the scenery. But that's minor at this point. The general view of the city looked multitudes better than the old sims. Hopefully they add detail to shithole countries like mine in the future.
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lobsterminator posted:I found a video showing my city, Helsinki, in MSFS2020. The general layout and buildings look fine. Olympic stadium and smaller sport fields looked ok'ish. It didn't have any landmarks though. All the major churches were missing and there are a couple of towers also. Which is funny because in the old sims they were pretty much the only correct things in the scenery. It seems this is what Buckingham Palace looks like so it's not that accurate in even major cities. 
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I just hope the World Landmarks Season Pass is priced reasonably.
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ethanol posted:why's everybody in the beta except me No surprise, this thread is full of betas
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I really hope they have a way of tagging areas as dodgy. Also they need to work a little on trees. They seem to have it set as anything green is a tree. The nda for the beta is loving trash, not allowed to talk about it to anyone and ca t show anyone it. So if my wife comes in I'm supposed to turn it off? She will just think I'm watching porn again.
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Is it possible that Bing maps eventually just manually adds buildings as they are complained of?
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lobsterminator posted:It seems this is what Buckingham Palace looks like so it's not that accurate in even major cities. A palace replaced by affordable housing. FS2020 really is the best game ever.
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Vahakyla posted:Is it possible that Bing maps eventually just manually adds buildings as they are complained of? Microsoft genius-tier business move - why pay devs/artists to improve Bing maps when we can just trick the flight sim community into doing it for us for free? They knew exactly the audience to hit.
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lobsterminator posted:It seems this is what Buckingham Palace looks like so it's not that accurate in even major cities. Anything else in the game is generated from a combination of OpenStreetMaps data (apparently) and AIs running over satellite imagery.
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Zero One posted:A palace replaced by affordable housing. FS2020 really is the best game ever. lol
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Rincey posted:No surprise, this thread is full of betas there is no fun to be had in this thread
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"fun"? I don't see a check item for "fun" on the pre-engine start check list, do you?
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I'm kinda surprised that the 3D mapping isn't so good - Nokia Maps became Here maps, and they were the first to add 3D buildings and autogeneration, and despite Microsoft's split with Nokia they still supply Bing with data, and they have far better 3D mapping coverage than bing does. It's not every building, but in most cities they've got all the big standouts, and they seem to be doing a decent job on stadiums and things too.
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Sapozhnik posted:"fun"? I don't see a check item for "fun" on the pre-engine start check list, do you? Only serious semi-professional flight simmers allowed in this thread 
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Sapozhnik posted:"fun"? I don't see a check item for "fun" on the pre-engine start check list, do you? Has anyone read the EULA? Is there any mention about having fun? I'm wary after a long time of P3D simming.
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Aug 5, 2020 16:51
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 I like the literalist approach to bridges in less important cities lol
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Hace posted:
lol I kinda dont want this to ever be changed.
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MikeJF posted:I'm kinda surprised that the 3D mapping isn't so good - Nokia Maps became Here maps, and they were the first to add 3D buildings and autogeneration, and despite Microsoft's split with Nokia they still supply Bing with data, and they have far better 3D mapping coverage than bing does. It's not every building, but in most cities they've got all the big standouts, and they seem to be doing a decent job on stadiums and things too. I swear bing maps used to have more 3d stuff years back but then they cut a load of it out. Like I definitely remember London being in 3d several years ago on bing but now its just flat 2d imagery. 
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Hace posted:
There's a suspension bridge in my city that appears as a 100m tall wall of water in game.
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Hace posted:I guess specifically I'm trying to use opentrack, and my performance just tanks. It's likely the fact that i'm still using a haswell i5, but when I'm not using it the performance is like night and day. I have opentrack and a 4590 and I have no performance issues with it. Have you turned off the smart camera? What tracker/protocol/filter are you using in opentrack?
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Sagebrush posted:I have opentrack and a 4590 and I have no performance issues with it. Have you turned off the smart camera? What tracker/protocol/filter are you using in opentrack? I have the smart camera on and I'm just using the default plugins 
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I feel like Asobo did this to themselves by making half the screenshots they released glamor shots taken from 300 feet. Unless they had photogrammetry literally everywhere there's always going to be awful looking artifacts that you'd probably never notice from FL150
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Oh it's fine imo, you can't model every single complex structure on the planet earth, but it's still funny to see.
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Hace posted:
it's like a wile e coyote trap for people wanting to fly under the bridge
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sum posted:I feel like Asobo did this to themselves by making half the screenshots they released glamor shots taken from 300 feet. Unless they had photogrammetry literally everywhere there's always going to be awful looking artifacts that you'd probably never notice from FL150 itll be fine lol
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Hace posted:I have the smart camera on and I'm just using the default plugins Try the latest experimental build - no idea if it will help you but it seemed to resolve my own issue (release version closing on Start, I guess due to my cam and hotas fighting for power supply)
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I can't justify the money for a nice stick at the moment, but I do still have my OG CH Flightstick I used to play Jetfighter II with in the '90s. Would it be worth digging out a Teensy and building a gameport->USB adapter for three axes and two buttons, or will I probably be better off just using the Xbox One pad for a few months until I can throw down for a HOTAS setup? I intend to have that by the time VR support is available.
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It seems like a great opportunity for community editing / fixing tools. The terrain generation is always gonna make gently caress ups but people would have fun fixing their own towns etc.
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Handsome Ralph posted:So I was hemming and hawing over finally buying a Track IR and this guy's alternative caught my eye. So quick trip report, bought this guys head tracker last week and it works incredibly well. I think the best part is the head tracker is wireless (so no wires like TrackIR), doesn't feel like it'll fall apart if I look at it, and if you buy the tracker with the PS3 camera from him, it's 80 bucks vs 160+ for the Track IR. I'm sure there are things Track IR is better at doing but for anyone who wants a head tracking system but doesn't want to drop 160+ on one, this one is a solid compromise. Handsome Ralph fucked around with this message at 22:33 on Aug 19, 2020 |
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Hace posted:I have the smart camera on and I'm just using the default plugins Huh. I have the same settings as you (well, different curves I assume) and it works great, no framerate drops. The only other thing I've done is disable the smart camera. Idk. Hace posted:Oh it's fine imo, you can't model every single complex structure on the planet earth, but it's still funny to see. Yeah it's entertaining sometimes. Seoul is just a mass of cuboid apartment buildings, with none of the real world towers or skyscrapers. I flew to a drag strip I know about and the outdoor grandstands were rendered as hotels. It's still significantly better than anything else out there, because there is still A Building exactly where it should be in real life instead of just scattered light/medium/dense structures at random locations. For less distinctive buildings, like individual houses or wal-marts or whatever, the autogen works very well. And of course the photogrammetry cities are really really good, and you can often read real-world billboards and signage at street level. I'm a bit surprised that they didn't build a special case for bridges that hollows out the underside. It should be pretty trivial to identify a bridge since it's a straight-line object that sticks up over water. Everyone wants to fly under bridges. wolrah posted:I can't justify the money for a nice stick at the moment, but I do still have my OG CH Flightstick I used to play Jetfighter II with in the '90s. A game port USB adapter is $20 ish on Amazon, so depends on how much you value your time. Sagebrush fucked around with this message at 19:02 on Aug 5, 2020 |
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Waterloo Bridge outside the Houses of Parliament isn't as big a land mark as Tower Bridge, but thought they'd do better than an invisible line with cars flying over it
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Sagebrush posted:A game port USB adapter is $20 ish on Amazon, so depends on how much you value your time.
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If it has some kind of thing to use as a throttle you might be good, you really don't need a lot of buttons for FS2020 if you don't mind reaching for the keyboard. https://www.amazon.com/CH-Flightstick-4-Button-8-Way-Throttle/dp/B00005123I Assuming this is what you have, it should be more than enough for FS2020, it just might be a pain setting it up initially. POV hat for looking around, two buttons for trim, one button for braking, one dial for throttle and the other for mixture.
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As long as it still provides smooth input and you like the feel of it, sure, there's no reason not to use an old joystick. Pitch, roll, and throttle are enough to get you off the ground if you're quick with the rudder keys or just turn on auto-rudder. Use one button on the stick (trigger, usually) for wheel brakes, two more for trim up/down, and everything else can be done with the keyboard or clicking stuff in the cockpit. The fancy HOTAS systems are really meant for military jets where you have to operate a zillion sensor and weapon systems in the middle of maneuvering flight. Even modern civilian airliners rarely have more buttons on the yoke/stick than radio keys, trim switches, and some autopilot controls. Sagebrush fucked around with this message at 20:13 on Aug 5, 2020 |
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also wow now is a terrible time to be in the market for a hotas, almost everything is cleared at the entry to mid level.
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Hace posted:also wow now is a terrible time to be in the market for a hotas, almost everything is cleared at the entry to mid level. Yeah, I ended up pulling out and cleaning up my old X52 setup that's been sitting in my closet uncovered for the last 10 years instead of buying anything right now. It was grimy, creaky, and the magnetic sensors had a bunch of crud on them somehow, but I managed to restore it decently well. I'll probably buy something when the market stabilizes again, which hopefully won't take too long. Dr. Video Games 0031 fucked around with this message at 20:37 on Aug 5, 2020 |
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