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CuddleCryptid posted:My understanding is that because people weren't shopping in person and also the Mint being short staffed during covid the endless circulation of physical currency is messed up and now places are having issues keeping up supply. It’s this. The mint was shut down for ~15 weeks, and with a shift to online shopping a lot of cash just stopped circulating. Until last week, Kroger I work at hadn’t received any rolled change since the beginning of July when we got 12 rolls of dimes (instead of a full box of 50).
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Sarcastro posted:It's true in the U.S. as well, and anyone who says otherwise really needs to go back to the books and look up what "debt" means. Or just looking at the Treasury's answer to this question: US Treasury posted:I thought that United States currency was legal tender for all debts. Some businesses or governmental agencies say that they will only accept checks, money orders or credit cards as payment, and others will only accept currency notes in denominations of $20 or smaller. Isn't this illegal?
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Subjunctive posted:Or just looking at the Treasury's answer to this question: Heh, that's the exact page I went to just now to make sure I was right before mashing Post.
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Guavanaut posted:There are stores that are politely asking people to use card and NFC phone payment wherever possible, because of I have an inlaw with strong Libertarian leanings that argued with me and the rest of their family that it was illegal for my business to not accept cash as payment (We almost entirely sell to retailers/wholesalers) They even claimed that this Subjunctive posted:Or just looking at the Treasury's answer to this question: was wrong. As in the US Treasury was wrong to state that.
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that's because Libertarianism isn't so much a principled coherent political ideology, as it is a thin rationalization for having a tantrum "you can't tell me what to do, you're not my dad!" government has no right to regulate businesses as long as I identify with the business owner and am imagining myself getting to abuse workers and discriminate against customers until a business decision inconveniences me, then mah rights are being violated, the government is your manager and bah gawd I demand to speak with them
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"it's unconstitutional social engineering to stop businesses from having separate colored entrances" AND "it's my inalienable right to enter your establishment smoking cigarettes and drinking raw milk without a mask despite your posted requirements" Edit: the simplest way I've come to put it for in-person chat is that American Libertarians are essentially a special-interest group for fat white boys. sweart gliwere fucked around with this message at 18:15 on Aug 4, 2020 |
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We have slightly more patience than that.
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Do they mean Herman Cain? Very late edit for more content: The response to this one is to point out how the whole thing falls apart because it falsely assumes that "all" people will die from covid. That's not why covid is the crisis that it is. The issue is in how transmissible it is. The mask-less assholes likely won't die. The people they may infect by not wearing a mask might, though, or the people they infect may go on to infect other people who might. And that's just talking about death. Nevermind that getting sick and surviving is still a loving nightmare and good luck paying off your medical bill if you need hospitalization. Mock whoever posts this for still not understanding covid 6 months in. These people need to feel shame. tek79 fucked around with this message at 13:31 on Aug 6, 2020 |
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I live in California and encounter a lot of people who immigrated here and their children. Every single person that I have met who was born on US soil (and went to school in the US as a result), regardless of how much English their parents speak, is 100% fluent in English. Every immigrant that I have met has made at least some effort to learn English, even if they're not fluent. You'll occasionally run into an older person who hasn't had a whole lot of success, but even then they're still capable of basic communication. I get that this sort of bullshit is meant to cater to folks for whom the very idea of someone not being white is a novelty, but it's just such a stark contrast to my experience that it's disgusting.
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:whats belgium *laughs in Flemish*
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:whats belgium confirmation? 
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Posted by the same sort of motherfuckers who would go to France and demand an English menu
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:whats belgium Or Singapore, India, etc.
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Dim diolch
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Doesn't China also have two written languages? The more traditional one character per word and one that's closer to an alphabet?
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HootTheOwl posted:Doesn't China also have two written languages? The more traditional one character per word and one that's closer to an alphabet? No, China just uses characters. There's ways of writing the characters phonetically like pinyin, but they're not actually used practically for communication. You might be confusing it with Japan, which uses Chinese characters plus two syllabaries. But they're not different languages, they're used in tandem. Tarezax fucked around with this message at 02:20 on Aug 7, 2020 |
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HootTheOwl posted:Doesn't China also have two written languages? The more traditional one character per word and one that's closer to an alphabet? They actually have one written language but two main spoken dialects, Mandarin and Cantonese, that are mutually unintelligible, if I remember right
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DarkHorse posted:They actually have one written language but two main spoken dialects, Mandarin and Cantonese, that are mutually unintelligible, if I remember right Those are the two biggest ones but there's several other spoken dialects that are also unintelligible or at least very difficult for non-speakers to understand. They're at least as different from each other as the Romance languages are from each other.
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The fun thing to do is when people start getting upset that immigrants wear weird clothes have a strange religion don't speak English and refused to assimilate with the surrounding culture is to tell the person they have just described the Amish
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Whenever I see this poo poo I can't help but think of that Izzard skit "Two languages in one head? No one can live at that speed. "Good Lord, man! You're asking the impossible." "But the Dutch speak four languages and smoke marijuana." "Yes, but they're cheating."
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lol all those people applying for citizenship have better book smart and a theoretical understanding of how the gov should work than most regressives.
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Tarezax posted:Those are the two biggest ones but there's several other spoken dialects that are also unintelligible or at least very difficult for non-speakers to understand. They're at least as different from each other as the Romance languages are from each other. DarkHorse posted:They actually have one written language but two main spoken dialects, Mandarin and Cantonese, that are mutually unintelligible, if I remember right HootTheOwl posted:Doesn't China also have two written languages? The more traditional one character per word and one that's closer to an alphabet? Tarezax posted:No, China just uses characters. There's ways of writing the characters phonetically like pinyin, but they're not actually used practically for communication. Chinese uses unique characters for each word (and Japanese uses some of these characters). I think average educated Chinese people typically know somewhere around 10-20k characters (I could be wrong but it's thousands). During the Cultural Revolution in the 50s, mainland China simplified many characters from their "traditional" forms but this was not adopted by Taiwan and Singapore. As a result, there are two ways to write SOME Chinese characters - simplified, used in China, and traditional, used in Taiwan/Singapore. Japanese kanji is very close to traditional but there are a few characters that are slightly different in Japanese. But for all intents and purposes, traditional. As for spoken language, Mandarin and Cantonese are the main dialects but there exist many, many, many dialects of Chinese https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_varieties_of_Chinese. Even cities have their own dialects that are not spoken outside of a very small area. e.g. people in Shanghai city speak Shanghainese, but when I met some of my coworkers who were from just 45 minutes outside of Shanghai, they were speaking a very, very similar dialect but one that I couldn't understand at all. My Shanghainese fluency isn't very good, but I can usually understand some listening. Couldn't make out what they were saying at all - and that's less than an hour apart. In some parts of the country, even when people are speaking Mandarin, their accents are so thick that it's still incredibly difficult to understand, if at all. At the end of the day, many people not from Beijing area or Guangzhou area speak at least either Mandarin or Cantonese + a local dialect.
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Tarezax posted:Those are the two biggest ones but there's several other spoken dialects that are also unintelligible or at least very difficult for non-speakers to understand. They're at least as different from each other as the Romance languages are from each other.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KV5HyPKf0xA
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PeterCat posted:The fun thing to do is when people start getting upset that immigrants wear weird clothes have a strange religion don't speak English and refused to assimilate with the surrounding culture is to tell the person they have just described the Amish Lol I'm going to mention this next chance I get
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Most chinese "dialects" are completely separate languages. Not only are cantonese and mandarin unintelligible, cantonese is merely the prestige dialect of the yue language/group, some of which are further from cantonese than say, spanish from french. And yue and mandarin are merely the two largest groups. However, the use of a character-based writing system means that, as I understand it, written language is largely comprehensible across various languages. Edgar Allen Ho fucked around with this message at 12:52 on Aug 7, 2020 |
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Now I'm wondering how typing works. Is the keyboard phonic and you type out transliterations? Do those get turned into characters?
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Mondian posted:Whenever I see this poo poo I can't help but think of that Izzard skit There is some truth to the first part in this. To learn second languages its best to get them started before age 12, when the brain is still right to learn them. In the UK we only start learning around about age 12, when its a bit too late. So we find it harder to take on. And even then we make it optional, which most abandon after 2-3 years. So we learn just really basic french/german/spanish/latin and think we are hot poo poo ordering a tin opener in a loud voice in Ibiza.
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Jee voo dray un over-bite silver plate.
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I'm sure based on this logic we're all fluent in several Native American dialects.
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Guavanaut posted:The UK also has dialects of English that are near mutually unintelligible, but from the meme perspective apparently that's different for 'unity' purposes. because they're white Don't worry though, anyone with a strong (or even weak) regional accent will still be considered backwards and inferior, and so can be discriminated against by the perfectly 'normally' spoken elite of the metropole, even with the shared skin tone. It's as if it is all lovely better than thou hierarchies all the way down. .
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I mean, Hott Fuzz had that whole bit where the City Cop can't understand the old farmer guy and has to call in his partner to translate.
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The whole thing is particularly funny to remember whenever seeing posts from hardcore Trumpies, since they're almost invariably incoherent and display stunning incompetence with the English language.
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HootTheOwl posted:I mean, Hott Fuzz had that whole bit where the City Cop can't understand the old farmer guy and has to call in his partner to translate. You mean the one eight posts above yours? Guavanaut posted:The UK also has dialects of English that are near mutually unintelligible, but from the meme perspective apparently that's different for 'unity' purposes. because they're white 
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HootTheOwl posted:Now I'm wondering how typing works. Is the keyboard phonic and you type out transliterations? Do those get turned into characters? I do that for Mandarin, dunno if there's any typing schemes for Cantonese. I know there's other typing schemes but I only know how to use the pinyin-based ones. Actually, on smartphones you can use a drawing interface to draw out the character directly, too.
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HootTheOwl posted:Now I'm wondering how typing works. Is the keyboard phonic and you type out transliterations? Do those get turned into characters? Chinese has a clear romanization system called "pinyin" which is used for typing. Looks like this when you're typing: https://imgur.com/Jnq2lVh
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look america has one language and if you can't speak it you should go back to your own country to do your "sign language", comrade.
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PeterCat posted:The fun thing to do is when people start getting upset that immigrants wear weird clothes have a strange religion don't speak English and refused to assimilate with the surrounding culture is to tell the person they have just described the Amish in one of his essays, Ben Franklin goes off on a whole rant about the unintegrated swarthy Germans
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