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Nfcknblvbl posted:I think so too. My Energica Ego's now replaced by the Ego+ which has 60% more battery capacity while weighing less and costing the same as my bike when it was new. And they still don't give any weight measurements on their homepage, which tells me its still a pretty porky boy.
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Big Taint posted:I feel there’s a Tesla build-quality joke in there somewhere Leaky seals! Nooooo
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There's a lot going on with the Lyriq and I don't mean that in a complimentary way.
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knox_harrington posted:Very nice. What's it like to drive? Don't suppose you've been on any hilly or mountainous areas? It's definitely more sporty than most Audi SUVs, I'd say it drives quite similar to a SQ5 though steering is very light(but precise). I live in a fairly hilly city and I've not had any issues going up and down inclines - auto hold helps there. Overall I think the most impressive thing about it is how quiet it is, the rest is fairly similar to something like a Q8 but with better performance. Why not go to the local dealer and test it? I think the number one issue most people are going to take with the e-tron is the lower range. In real world driving it's got probably 75% of the range of a long range Model Y. So if you drive long distances, this probably isn't the car for you. Gamesguy fucked around with this message at 07:29 on Aug 7, 2020 |
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Westy543 posted:Cadillac Lyriq unveiled tonight. I stole some details and pics from electrek's slide summary, pls no punish: Maybe it's a good idea they come with a 19 kW onboard charger, that kind of makes up for the fact that there's limited public DCFC in North America. Strange that this car won't have the 800v 350kW-capable charging battery, maybe they're not ready for it yet? I bet the AWD drive model's going to be at least $70k.
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ClassH posted:The Bolt is not that way. Do you have a source for that? It makes sense, but the owner's manual seems to indicate otherwise. I assume this procedure is to protect the traction battery then?  Bolt Owner's Manual posted:Up to Four Weeks
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Westy543 posted:Cadillac Lyriq unveiled tonight. I stole some details and pics from electrek's slide summary, pls no punish:
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Nfcknblvbl posted:Maybe it's a good idea they come with a 19 kW onboard charger, that kind of makes up for the fact that there's limited public DCFC in North America. Strange that this car won't have the 800v 350kW-capable charging battery, maybe they're not ready for it yet? I bet the AWD drive model's going to be at least $70k. I won’t believe a dollar under $80k until someone shows me a window sticker.
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Hexigrammus posted:Do you have a source for that? It makes sense, but the owner's manual seems to indicate otherwise. I assume this procedure is to protect the traction battery then? It is in a gm service document that was posted by a bolt technician. Link is now dead however. Here is the post that has more info also with how the battery works in certain situations with the service documents linked. https://www.chevybolt.org/threads/12v-battery-charging.10290/post-230362
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Hexigrammus posted:Do you have a source for that? It makes sense, but the owner's manual seems to indicate otherwise. I assume this procedure is to protect the traction battery then? Yes, long term storage procedures for EVs are all about protecting the traction battery. That procedure explicitly had you discharge the traction battery to "two bars", whatever that means, and the traction battery won't maintain the 12V when it's below 40%. This was probably chosen to coincide with this storage discharge so you don't drain down the traction battery in storage.
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GM is thinking about making an EV-only brand to get some of that sweet, sweet investor money. GM kicks around an idea to seize on EV enthusiasm, report says quote:GM now is war-gaming the idea as the company ponders different ways to get credit for its EV plans, though a spinoff isn’t actively being prepared, said the people, who asked not to be identified discussing internal deliberations. Barra was publicly asked about it in light of Tesla Inc.’s soaring valuation and the easy access to capital that unproven EV startups such as Nikola Corp. have pulled off by merging with blank-check companies. I'm sure they would invent a totally new marque, but I hope they bring back Saturn!
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Why are all the US and European auto companies focusing on luxury EVs? Only affordable EVs are coming out of Asia.
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EVs are luxury toys, Asian makers likely think they can't compete effectively in the $60-100k ev market
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GlassEye-Boy posted:Why are all the US and European auto companies focusing on luxury EVs? Only affordable EVs are coming out of Asia. Higher margins on luxury vehicles (how much more do you really think a few hundred kilos of dynamat and some soft touch plastics and contrasting stitching actually cost a manufacturer?), and poor people can't afford to buy new cars (unless you've got your own in-house financing company specifically so that they can, and event that's risky). Asian companies have traditionally happily expanded into markets that US and Euro companies couldn't be bothered with.
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GlassEye-Boy posted:Why are all the US and European auto companies focusing on luxury EVs? Only affordable EVs are coming out of Asia. The middle class was already bleeding out before the pandemic hit, putting us in a 'bifurcated' economy. The only way to make money is to go after the Dollar General bracket with volume or target the rich
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Nfcknblvbl posted:Maybe it's a good idea they come with a 19 kW onboard charger, that kind of makes up for the fact that there's limited public DCFC in North America. Public AC chargers with that much juice are rare, the only ones I can think of are Tesla destination chargers. Most public AC around me is 6kw on a good day.
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GlassEye-Boy posted:Why are all the US and European auto companies focusing on luxury EVs? Only affordable EVs are coming out of Asia. I wouldn’t call the Zoe or the E Niro for luxury EVs, but maybe that is just me. Where the Zoe was considerably cheaper than a normal Golf with the tax return.
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PIZZA.BAT posted:The middle class was already bleeding out before the pandemic hit, putting us in a 'bifurcated' economy. The only way to make money is to go after the Dollar General bracket with volume or target the rich Plus with cars, you're never gonna beat the used car market for the volume bracket. Used cars are cheap, plentiful, and long lasting.
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I didn't know people were still trying to drive Tesla roadsters, even in LA I haven't seen one in many years https://twitter.com/JeffreyFarber/status/1289568814263279617?s=20
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This guy apparently is the person to go to for Roadster repairs. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tI1Ord5GsQI "One customer had his Roadster waiting at a Tesla service center for over a year because the component it required, a 400-volt controller, wasn't available according to records Medlock shared with CNBC. Although Tesla put the customer in a loaner Model S while he was waiting, he eventually took his Roadster to Medlock."
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Clearly they should offer the owners a free upgrade to gen 2 roadsters.
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Rusty posted:This guy apparently is the person to go to for Roadster repairs. there's also this guy in phoenix https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-XGqLGI6g4 They're also a UPS company and a tesla's basically a giant DC to AC converter with wheels, so....
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Is this a good thread to post in when I'm considering getting my first car (never needed one) and know jackshit about em? I'm definitely interested in an EV, but not sure where to start digging into resources. In terms of charging stations, I live near a ton and all that, so I'm not worried.
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sanchez posted:Public AC chargers with that much juice are rare, the only ones I can think of are Tesla destination chargers. Most public AC around me is 6kw on a good day. Then they'll use Tesla destination chargers. https://www.evseadapters.com/products/tesla-to-j1772-adapter/
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Beamed posted:Is this a good thread to post in when I'm considering getting my first car (never needed one) and know jackshit about em? I'm definitely interested in an EV, but not sure where to start digging into resources. In terms of charging stations, I live near a ton and all that, so I'm not worried.
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Indiana_Krom posted:Can't hurt to ask how you intend to use a vehicle should you buy one (like how far your daily commute will be, what kind of weather you will see on it, what shape you want, etc) and what kind of budget/credit do you have available, then we could suggest EVs that you might want to look at or test drive. No daily commute (working remote almost in perpetuity, and biked to the office when it was open), but I'd probably do 20-30 miles total on any given week, with occasional 300-400 mile trips upstate, to Chicago, etc. Michigan weather so basically all kinds across the year, including snow. I would probably like to spend less than $50k, I've got good credit and can make a downpayment of probably $10k.
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RZA Encryption posted:GM is thinking about making an EV-only brand to get some of that sweet, sweet investor money. Name it the Edison.
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Beamed posted:No daily commute (working remote almost in perpetuity, and biked to the office when it was open), but I'd probably do 20-30 miles total on any given week, with occasional 300-400 mile trips upstate, to Chicago, etc. Michigan weather so basically all kinds across the year, including snow. You can get things cheap used like the i3 but you're pretty much in the City Car range with those.
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Beamed posted:No daily commute (working remote almost in perpetuity, and biked to the office when it was open), but I'd probably do 20-30 miles total on any given week, with occasional 300-400 mile trips upstate, to Chicago, etc. Michigan weather so basically all kinds across the year, including snow. I would probably like to spend less than $50k, I've got good credit and can make a downpayment of probably $10k. Get a Spark EV, pay cash, rent a car for your occasional long distance trips. Make the common case easy and the rare case possible.
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RZA Encryption posted:Get a Spark EV, pay cash, rent a car for your occasional long distance trips. This doesn't sound bad. Any other good EVs you all would recommend if I bring that range down then?
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Beamed posted:This doesn't sound bad. Any other good EVs you all would recommend if I bring that range down then?
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RZA Encryption posted:GM is thinking about making an EV-only brand to get some of that sweet, sweet investor money. No, Pontiac. 
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Elmnt80 posted:No, Pontiac. Pontiac being the cool EV branch of GM would be a good move, therefore gm won't do it.
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Elephanthead posted:Name it the Edison. Tom
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RZA Encryption posted:
Pontiac. Elmnt80 posted:No, Pontiac. gently caress.
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GM making a new EV subsidiary to lure those hot VC bucks and naming it after one of their defunct brands is very dumb and extremely possible. Instead they are gonna say “eh let’s just make Buick be EVs now”.
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Big Taint posted:Instead they are gonna say “eh let’s just make Buick be EVs now”. Well they DID do that with Cadillac. All the news sites picked it up as "CADILLAC TO BECOME TESLA FIGHTER" when their first car is like 3 years away.
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Bring back Detroit Electric.
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Yeah but the Escalade is such a money maker I doubt you’re gonna see Caddy go full EV any time soon.
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Elmnt80 posted:No, Pontiac. This would be very weird and kinda cool. And perfectly match Ford making "Mustang" an EV brand for pure "what the gently caress?"
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