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RagnarokAngel
Oct 5, 2006

Black Magic Extraordinaire
Its more that weve moved so far right since then, Reagan would be a democrat now.

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Jagged Jim
Sep 26, 2013

I... I can only look though the window...

Brawnfire posted:

I'm gonna guess there was something insidious woven into the lining of this because offering a lifeline that's not a bootstrap seems awful out of character

Corporate handouts to Ma Bell mostly. It wasn't until the Obama Administration started updating the program for cell phones rather than landlines that most people even realized the program existed.

blackmet
Aug 5, 2006

I believe there is a universal Truth to the process of doing things right (Not that I have any idea what that actually means).

Jagged Jim posted:

Corporate handouts to Ma Bell mostly. It wasn't until the Obama Administration started updating the program for cell phones rather than landlines that most people even realized the program existed.

It actually expanded into cell phones under George W. Bush.

Meaning the correct term is "Bushphone." But that's not nearly as catchy and sounds borderline unsavoury.

Orange Devil
Oct 1, 2010

Wullie's reign cannae smother the flames o' equality!

Kaiju Cage Match posted:

Is that guy just wearing a stack of helmets?

Gotta stay safe.


the_steve posted:

Seriously. That poo poo started with Reagan under the rationale that it would be a lot easier for people to get a job if there was a way for employers to contact them.

This is the hilarity of the attack on public infrastructure that has been going on the last decade or two: all that infrastructure was primarily created as a huge loving subsidy to corporations. In this case, the state taking on the costs of giving them a bigger pool of potential job applicants (thus helping drive down wages).

The whole point is running this type of poo poo at a loss so that companies can reap most of the benefits. But sure, go destroy the post office, stop maintaining your roads and bridges, destroy public transport, gently caress up your telecommunications and internet infrastructure and rate of access, and structurally underfund your schools, see how well that works out for your economy. These people are terrible even at corporatism.

Orange Devil fucked around with this message at 08:34 on Aug 10, 2020

TinTower
Apr 21, 2010

You don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.

Arglebargle III
Feb 21, 2006

Taerkar posted:

The concentration of people of "American" ancestry is rather telling too.

They're mostly Scottish, Irish, and English.

F_Shit_Fitzgerald
Feb 2, 2017





"All those lazy people, trying to get unemployment instead of exposing themselves to a virus during a pandemic!"

DarkHorse
Dec 13, 2006

Vroom vroom, BEEP BEEP!
Nap Ghost

F_Shit_Fitzgerald posted:



"All those lazy people, trying to get unemployment instead of exposing themselves to a virus during a pandemic!"

Ah yes, the many many companies currently hiring now such as...

RagnarokAngel
Oct 5, 2006

Black Magic Extraordinaire
If unemployment can potentially pay better than an actual job, I think you might be pointing fingers at the wrong people.

ZaronYeras
Sep 14, 2007

If obama is a gay pedophile shouldn't he be purchasing people's sons instead of daughters, I'm just trying to make sense of the extended universe here

F_Shit_Fitzgerald
Feb 2, 2017



"People are living high off the hog by not working! It's an outrage!"

Hmm....so does that mean that we should dramatically increase wages and benefits so that these people have more of an incentive to take the risk of being infected with covid?

"No! That'd be socialism!"

jivjov
Sep 13, 2007

But how does it taste? Yummy!
Dinosaur Gum

RagnarokAngel posted:

If unemployment can potentially pay better than an actual job, I think you might be pointing fingers at the wrong people.

Clearly the problem is the wage slaves wanting to cut the line and get the fat unemployment checks rather than slaving away for a decade to maybe surpass that figure at a "better" job the "right" way

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
We've come full circle now.

"Planes hit the towers" presented in such a way that it looks like it's the crazy conspiracy theory.

Ragnar34
Oct 10, 2007

Lipstick Apathy

DarkHorse posted:

Ah yes, the many many companies currently hiring now such as...

My mother always takes it as gospel that "everyone is hiring right now," where "right now" means "always." There is no evidence available that could change her mind, not for longer than an hour or two. One "now hiring" sign equals 200,000 positions available, she's pretty sure she saw one the other day, QED.

I'm so glad we live in California where both our votes are meaningless.

Invalid Validation
Jan 13, 2008




Yea well my dad still thinks you apply for a job by going into a business, handing them your resume, and talking to the supervisor who will hire you on the spot because of the ambition you’re showing.

jivjov
Sep 13, 2007

But how does it taste? Yummy!
Dinosaur Gum
Can you even apply in person for menial part time work any more? I worked at a grocery store for 13 years, and when I started I handed in my application in person, and over the time I was there I remember the applications being phased out in favor of a computer kiosk by customer service, and then that being phased out in favor of a pamphlet with instructions directing people to our website from their own personal devices, and then even those were phased out and we just told people "go to the website"

Medullah
Aug 14, 2003

FEAR MY SHARK ROCKET IT REALLY SUCKS AND BLOWS
I know a dude who is incredibly anti Trump and considers himself a liberal, and he shared that unemployment/now hiring comic because he manages a Wal-Mart and told us you can walk into any Wal-Mart in the country and get a job on the spot.


Like, I will never give anyone poo poo for working retail, I did Best Buy all through my 20s and early 30s, but I don't see someone who was making a great living before the pandemic risking infection working for Wal-Mart pay. It absolutely is more tempting to stay home and collect unemployment than work at Wal-Mart, but as we always say the problem there isn't that unemployment pays too much.

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011
Probation
Can't post for 5 days!

jivjov posted:

Can you even apply in person for menial part time work any more? I worked at a grocery store for 13 years, and when I started I handed in my application in person, and over the time I was there I remember the applications being phased out in favor of a computer kiosk by customer service, and then that being phased out in favor of a pamphlet with instructions directing people to our website from their own personal devices, and then even those were phased out and we just told people "go to the website"

There is a local construction site near my work that had to put up a sign stating they weren't taking job applications and to please go to the local union hall instead.

Killer robot
Sep 6, 2010

I was having the most wonderful dream. I think you were in it!
Pillbug

jivjov posted:

Can you even apply in person for menial part time work any more? I worked at a grocery store for 13 years, and when I started I handed in my application in person, and over the time I was there I remember the applications being phased out in favor of a computer kiosk by customer service, and then that being phased out in favor of a pamphlet with instructions directing people to our website from their own personal devices, and then even those were phased out and we just told people "go to the website"

I saw a flyer in a Taco Bell some time last year for in-person application hours but that seemed like a scheduled group thing rather than a "walk in off the street and ask for an application."

jivjov
Sep 13, 2007

But how does it taste? Yummy!
Dinosaur Gum
Yeah, my store would do open interviews from time to time, so I guess that's still a thing...but to just come in off the street and ask to apply for a job just....doesn't happen anymore.

the_steve
Nov 9, 2005

We're always hiring!

Obviously you just aren't giving the owner (who is always on site during all business hours) a firm enough handshake.

Okuteru
Nov 10, 2007

Choose this life you're on your own
My favorite useless piece of job hunting advice was persistence. Apparently, if you keep coming back again and again to apply in person, you'll wear down employers to the point where they'll give he you a job so you leave them alone.

Security? Available slots? What are those?

Pocket Billiards
Aug 29, 2007
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jivjov posted:

Can you even apply in person for menial part time work any more? I worked at a grocery store for 13 years, and when I started I handed in my application in person, and over the time I was there I remember the applications being phased out in favor of a computer kiosk by customer service, and then that being phased out in favor of a pamphlet with instructions directing people to our website from their own personal devices, and then even those were phased out and we just told people "go to the website"

You can't even request leave as an employee in person at a supermarket job now.

Medullah
Aug 14, 2003

FEAR MY SHARK ROCKET IT REALLY SUCKS AND BLOWS

Forceholy posted:

My favorite useless piece of job hunting advice was persistence. Apparently, if you keep coming back again and again to apply in person, you'll wear down employers to the point where they'll give he you a job so you leave them alone.

Security? Available slots? What are those?

This still has a glimmer of truth. I hired a guy last year that had applied 5 times for a position. He wasn't the top choice for the first 4, but he asked for feedback and actually worked on what he needed to in order to make himself a good candidate. He's a good, loyal employee now.

Edgar Allen Ho
Apr 3, 2017

by sebmojo

Medullah posted:

This still has a glimmer of truth. I hired a guy last year that had applied 5 times for a position. He wasn't the top choice for the first 4, but he asked for feedback and actually worked on what he needed to in order to make himself a good candidate. He's a good, loyal employee now.

I’m guessing that this position isn’t some variant of “service grunt”

Medullah
Aug 14, 2003

FEAR MY SHARK ROCKET IT REALLY SUCKS AND BLOWS

Edgar Allen Ho posted:

I’m guessing that this position isn’t some variant of “service grunt”

Yeah no. But honestly, when I was a manager at Best Buy I would give extra points to people that kept coming in asking about openings. I saw them as people that wanted to work there, rather than just needing a job.

Hackers film 1995
Nov 4, 2009

Hack the planet!

but how will they know im good employee unless i can submit my (meticulously crafted) resume online, and then fill out the exact same information into boxes in a poorly constructed website that doesnt always save everything that i entered in correctly? i cant wait to never even hear from them after spending 45 minutes doing this

socialsecurity
Aug 30, 2003

Hackers film 1995 posted:

but how will they know im good employee unless i can submit my (meticulously crafted) resume online, and then fill out the exact same information into boxes in a poorly constructed website that doesnt always save everything that i entered in correctly? i cant wait to never even hear from them after spending 45 minutes doing this

Sorry your resume didn't get past the filters it was looking for 10 years experience in a product that has existed for 5.

Edgar Allen Ho
Apr 3, 2017

by sebmojo

Hackers film 1995 posted:

but how will they know im good employee unless i can submit my (meticulously crafted) resume online, and then fill out the exact same information into boxes in a poorly constructed website that doesnt always save everything that i entered in correctly? i cant wait to never even hear from them after spending 45 minutes doing this

don't forget the 100 question personality test with such gems as "would you scream at customers" and "what should you do if a fellow employee is stealing from the company"

StealthArcher
Jan 10, 2010




Will you bootlick and die for you lovely wage slave job you should actively want?

World Famous W
May 25, 2007

BAAAAAAAAAAAA
Now please complete this 150 question ethics/personality test before we'll accept the application

Most of my poo poo service/kitchen jobs I still work to this day is because someone in my circle already worked there

jivjov
Sep 13, 2007

But how does it taste? Yummy!
Dinosaur Gum

World Famous W posted:

Now please complete this 150 question ethics/personality test before we'll accept the application

Most of my poo poo service/kitchen jobs I still work to this day is because someone in my circle already worked there

That's most jobs honestly. Even my nice new job in the insurance industry was secured with the help of a referral from my old boss from the grocery store job who moved over there a year before I did...and he got referred in by his his mother-in-law. Personal connections beat out experience/resume any day.

Medullah
Aug 14, 2003

FEAR MY SHARK ROCKET IT REALLY SUCKS AND BLOWS

Hackers film 1995 posted:

but how will they know im good employee unless i can submit my (meticulously crafted) resume online, and then fill out the exact same information into boxes in a poorly constructed website that doesnt always save everything that i entered in correctly? i cant wait to never even hear from them after spending 45 minutes doing this

The best part about this is with our online system it takes the text from the resume and crams it into a text only field, so any pretty formatting is gone immediately.

TVs Ian
Jun 1, 2000

Such graceful, delicate creatures.

Medullah posted:

I know a dude who is incredibly anti Trump and considers himself a liberal, and he shared that unemployment/now hiring comic because he manages a Wal-Mart and told us you can walk into any Wal-Mart in the country and get a job on the spot.

Around 2009 or so, I was out of work for like 8 months. And I tried applying at the local Wal-Mart, and McDonalds, and Wendy's, and Best Buy, and any other place that had applications open. Never heard back from any of them.

I don't know if it was the personality tests, that I was making twice what the pay was at my previous job so they figured I'd leave when I found something better (which to be fair - true), or that I had been let go from my last job due to sales numbers (hard to sell new lines of cell phone service to people that come up with $500 per line deposits).

Eventually I wound up with 2 offers at once, and took the better one. Target was the one I didn't take and it had gotten as far as the drug test referral. I called the lady that hired me to say I was declining the offer, and not long after Target sent me a letter saying I was (temporarily?) blacklisted for refusing a drug test.

Invalid Validation
Jan 13, 2008




I’ve seen people fired for bad poo poo and get hired back on later in retail. I would hazard to guess they don’t keep a ~Blacklist~ for very long if they even have one to begin with. That would cost extra money and they sure as poo poo don’t want to do that.

jivjov
Sep 13, 2007

But how does it taste? Yummy!
Dinosaur Gum
AFAIK most retail blacklists don't go beyond that one store. I had coworkers fired for theft get hired on at a different store in the company, just in the next city over

a fatguy baldspot
Aug 29, 2018


Cousin posted this. Jesus

Eh! Frank
Mar 28, 2006

Doctor gave me these, I said what are these?
He said that they'll cure an existential type disease

World Famous W posted:

Now please complete this 150 question ethics/personality test before we'll accept the application

And many of the questions are the same ones found on tests that are used to diagnose/screen for mental health disorders like depression or anxiety

the_steve
Nov 9, 2005

We're always hiring!

a fatguy baldspot posted:


Cousin posted this. Jesus

I don't get it. Harris is a horrible human being on her own merits, why would you need to make poo poo up when there is so much documented evidence of things she has actually said and done?

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Ragnar34
Oct 10, 2007

Lipstick Apathy
Because as with so many of the worst dems, her worst qualities are in fact appealing to conservatives.

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