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WAR CRIME GIGOLO
Oct 3, 2012

The Hague
tryna get me
for these glutes

The government flagrantly flaunts their corruption on the media and uses it to mask the corruption as freedom. We are a dimbfuck country. Also Gavin just earmarked 3.7mil for a mansion improvement.

I still like Gavin. Unfortunately there will never be a no corrupt governor of California because there is so much loving money here.

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CopperHound
Feb 14, 2012

WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:

I still like Gavin. Unfortunately there will never be a no corrupt governor of California because there is so much loving money here.
I thought moonbeam did a good job of appearing above the board despite the bad calls. I guess I never bothered to dig past the surface tho.

Spazzle
Jul 5, 2003

CopperHound posted:

I thought moonbeam did a good job of appearing above the board despite the bad calls. I guess I never bothered to dig past the surface tho.

In 30 years jerry brown will rule the state again. We will dimly remember he had previously ruled. It has always been thus.

Fill Baptismal
Dec 15, 2008
Yeah, Jerry cannot die, but the price of this immortality is that he must always remain involved in California politics.

The Cubelodyte
Sep 1, 2006

Practicing Hypnolaw since 1990
Grimey Drawer
We could and have done a lot worse.

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose
If your state's politician with a phylactery is Jerry Brown you're doing pretty good, all things considered.

Wicked Them Beats
Apr 1, 2007

Moralists don't really *have* beliefs. Sometimes they stumble on one, like on a child's toy left on the carpet. The toy must be put away immediately. And the child reprimanded.

What if Jerry Brown is Feinstein's phylactery

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

Wicked Them Beats posted:

What if Jerry Brown is Feinstein's phylactery

Fuuuuuuck

CopperHound
Feb 14, 2012

Wicked Them Beats posted:

What if Jerry Brown is Feinstein's phylactery

Cup Runneth Over
Aug 8, 2009

She said life's
Too short to worry
Life's too long to wait
It's too short
Not to love everybody
Life's too long to hate


Eh, he kinda hosed our schools and unions anyway. Sorry Moonbeam, it's for the greater good

drilldo squirt
Aug 18, 2006

a beautiful, soft meat sack
Clapping Larry
*Jerry Brown jumping from the ledge as a Diana Feinstein burst out of his chest.*

Fill Baptismal
Dec 15, 2008
I sometimes wonder if he ever regrets not throwing his hat in in 2016. In retrospect, a significant portion of the 2016 Bernie vote was probably just a Not-Hillary vote more than anything else, he's relatively well known nationally, and people like him enough here that he'd probably have this state locked up, unlike Harris. And it's not like he's without presidential ambition. Who knows what could have been?

Spazzle
Jul 5, 2003

Still Dismal posted:

I sometimes wonder if he ever regrets not throwing his hat in in 2016. In retrospect, a significant portion of the 2016 Bernie vote was probably just a Not-Hillary vote more than anything else, he's relatively well known nationally, and people like him enough here that he'd probably have this state locked up, unlike Harris. And it's not like he's without presidential ambition. Who knows what could have been?

His contract says he cannot leave the borders of California.

FilthyImp
Sep 30, 2002

Anime Deviant

Spazzle posted:

His contract says he cannot leave the borders of California.
The Gentleman from California pretty much writes itself as a non-starter since all the flyover Chuds would be "NO SIREE NO GODLESS CAW-LEE-FORNICATE IN MY USA".

Gavbot stands a chance because he's a cooler Mitt Romney model

Okuteru
Nov 10, 2007

Choose this life you're on your own
Crossposting from the C-spam COVID thread:

fits my needs posted:

https://twitter.com/sfchronicle/status/1292694152325615616?s=20

*shakes magic8ball*

recall gavin's rear end binch!!!!! :ca:
This doesn't seem good.

Kenning
Jan 11, 2009

I really want to post goatse. Instead I only have these🍄.



It's amazing how relatively good Gavin was at the beginning of this, and how hilariously he's caved to the dipshits and the money since like May.

HelloSailorSign
Jan 27, 2011

Forceholy posted:

Crossposting from the C-spam COVID thread:

This doesn't seem good.

lmao a glitch in counting cases

they done got caught fudging the numbers

The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?


Hair Elf
They were pretty open all last week that the numbers were hosed, he gave the speech Monday night about the state doing well and then started walking it back the next morning when someone informed them that the numbers were hosed.

It was in all of the newspapers

GrandpaPants
Feb 13, 2006


Free to roam the heavens in man's noble quest to investigate the weirdness of the universe!

Kenning posted:

It's amazing how relatively good Gavin was at the beginning of this, and how hilariously he's caved to the dipshits and the money since like May.

Gavbots have to obey their programming.

Centrist Committee
Aug 6, 2019

HelloSailorSign posted:

lmao a glitch in counting cases

they done got caught fudging the numbers

yeah a """"""""""""""""""""""""glitch"""""""""""""""""""""""""""" lol

Henrik Zetterberg
Dec 7, 2007

2 of my kids started online middle school today.

They had Champion's Academy lined up as the platform, but when Placer county got placed on the watch list, everyone had to go online. They said "lol oops we can't afford this platform for all students, so uhhh, bbl."

Last week, they announced they were using Otus as their new platform for all students. 30 mins before school starts, the servers predictably had a nuclear meltdown and no one could log on for a couple hours. The teachers had to email out direct links for their Zoom meetings instead of using Otus to post them. Also predictably, some students (none in my kids' classes) forwarded the emails out to all their friends, so the class Zooms got carpet bombed with constant swearing and porn.

One of my kids' teachers sent out an email that said basically "ya know what, gently caress it, see you tomorrow, hopefully it'll work then. I hate 2020."

My highschooler starts on Wednesday and we had him try to get up at 6:30am to get back into the schedule. He woke up at 3:30pm.

Mom and I started drinking at 11am while in our own work meetings.

Going real well.

Cup Runneth Over
Aug 8, 2009

She said life's
Too short to worry
Life's too long to wait
It's too short
Not to love everybody
Life's too long to hate


computers... r bad

Anonymous Zebra
Oct 21, 2005
Blending in like it ain't no thang
Public schools started today in the city of Riverside. From talking to the parents at work who tried to give it a go, it's going exactly as expected, which is to say that it's exactly like the distance learning that they ad-libbed in the middle of March. Early childhood teachers are unable to focus their video lessons in a way to keep young or special needs children focused, and older students aren't showing up to the online meetings. And of course technical difficulties abound. I hate that I basically called this a month and a half ago, but I'm also glad I predicted it and got the girls out of the public schools while there were still slots available.

Centrist Committee
Aug 6, 2019

Anonymous Zebra posted:

got the girls out of the public schools while there were still slots available

what's the alternative experience like

e: I assume this is for-profit?

Aeka 2.0
Nov 16, 2000

:ohdear: Have you seen my apex seals? I seem to have lost them.




Dinosaur Gum

Anonymous Zebra posted:

Public schools started today in the city of Riverside. From talking to the parents at work who tried to give it a go, it's going exactly as expected, which is to say that it's exactly like the distance learning that they ad-libbed in the middle of March. Early childhood teachers are unable to focus their video lessons in a way to keep young or special needs children focused, and older students aren't showing up to the online meetings. And of course technical difficulties abound. I hate that I basically called this a month and a half ago, but I'm also glad I predicted it and got the girls out of the public schools while there were still slots available.

My 3rd grade twins thankfully were able to sit through it, some technical difficulties with the apps, but we were mostly able to push through it.

FilthyImp
Sep 30, 2002

Anime Deviant

Anonymous Zebra posted:

I'm also glad I predicted it and got the girls out of the public schools while there were still slots available.

Nice pod, man

Fill Baptismal
Dec 15, 2008

This is one of those things where I don’t at all judge or blame the parents doing it (it’s your loving kids, I’d do the same if I was in that position) but probably should be illegal. I don’t think that’s what that poster was referencing though, I vaguely remember them mentioning some other option.

FilthyImp
Sep 30, 2002

Anime Deviant

Still Dismal posted:

This is one of those things where I don’t at all judge or blame the parents doing it (it’s your loving kids, I’d do the same if I was in that position) but probably should be illegal. I don’t think that’s what that poster was referencing though, I vaguely remember them mentioning some other option.
Yeah, I get it. I can't imagine being stuck with an elementary kid or a middle schooler and a high schooler, much less a special needs kid, while also having the boss asking why I'm not in on that morning's 3 hour zoom check-in.

I know also this is the best the districts can do short of massively reworking the entire thing like (Riverside?) did by just mass-enrolling everyone with all the teachers they have.

But man if it's not ousting a laser focus on inequalities eh.

Kenning
Jan 11, 2009

I really want to post goatse. Instead I only have these🍄.



This is just additional proof of the fact that a 40 hour workweek is completely insane without huge social structures to support the workers. Realistically if you have to be expected to maintain your home and also educate/raise children you're good for like 15 hours per week, and like, that should suffice jfc. Nobody works for 8 hours per day. If you're lucky you put in 6 good hours, I suspect most people are truly good for 4 or 5.

Anonymous Zebra
Oct 21, 2005
Blending in like it ain't no thang
The short answer to the question of what alternatives we ended up going with is that my youngest is in a private Kindergarten that is part of a childcare center that has fulfilled state guidelines to stay open, while the older two are in a pod similar to what is being talked about on the news and on NPR, which is managed by a private school that is using it's resources to run the pods and teach the students by state standards. In each case the class sizes are extremely small (far less than the 10 kids they originally set as the max per pod). In both instances the people running the show have spent the better part of the last two months renovating the spaces so that each student is in their own personal space within a room where airflow does not flow past any two students, and large parts of the day (including eating) takes place in artificial shaded areas outside so that the time spent indoors is minimal. All students and teachers are masked (except during meals), and there are daily health-checks at the door. There are a bunch of other details of how they are running the pods, but the basic gist is that it's entirely families that take COVID very seriously which puts us at ease somewhat for how safe everyone is being.

It's also, as you can probably infer from that level of prep, expensive as gently caress and we are basically putting all disposable income into paying for this system. My feelings on the issue of schooling in the time of COVID are very complicated, and I kind of find it difficult to fully articulate the conflicting forces that are constantly coloring my decision making as these last 5 months have gone by. Observations of how late school systems were deciding on the best course of action made it clear to me that the public schools would be unable to fully educate the girls to the degree that would be good for them, and so very early on we made the decision to bail and managed to slip our way into these places before most parents came to the same realization. I mentioned it already in this thread, but the lack of in-person schooling (or a well thought out distance learning system) is going to leave so many children behind, that we are likely to see a tangible societal effect of these events for a generation in this country. I'm conflicted because I feel terrible for those families, but at the same time I cannot let my girls be one of those children.

I think the best summary of my feelings is that COVID-19 is an unprecedented event in modern history, which destroyed the concept of "normality" in this country and that the response to COVID requires creative and innovative thinking that is not shackled by the "normal" institutions that existed before the pandemic started. Small groups and individuals are capable of this level of innovative thinking, but large institutions (in the absence of good leadership) have shown immense sluggishness in taking the necessary actions. To narrow this down to the topic at hand, schools, I witnessed 3 consecutive RUSD school board meetings where one of the board members repeatedly asked, "Can we delay starting the school year until after Labor Day? It's obvious that the district in unprepared to start August 10th." only to be told each time that union negotiations and contracts prevented any shift in the start of the school year. It was a degree of inflexibility that was rooted in an old normal that made no sense when the action that was being taken would directly help the teachers the union theoretically exists to protect.

At the department level at the university we started planning for online Fall classes in APRIL as a just in case option. Again, it was the actions of forward thinking individuals (the assorted department heads at UCR) who moved to make decisions faster than the upper administration of the UC system. Because of that extra time, we were able to develop actual tested online teaching techniques that will make our classes much more usable for the students who take them (but not all departments did this unfortunately). If virtual classes were always going to be the fall back, then Newsom should have been directing districts to develop those classes in the Spring when the shutdown started. Instead almost every district I've read about decided to go online in the month of July, leaving little time for underpaid and overworked teachers to figure out how to teach like that.

I'm still convinced that if a couple of big brains sat on Zoom for a week throwing ideas at the wall, that we could have gotten most of the RUSD student population into pods that were safe. It would have required not doing things the old way, like for example just to spitball, there is no reason that the entirely empty UCR campus could not be used to house a large number of small pods in their giant 200+ person lecture halls. Or there's no reason that Tyler Mall (which I believe is still shutdown) couldn't be used as space for additional pods. That's just the poo poo I'm thinking of at 12:40am with no thought, so better ideas are probably out there to be thought of.

Cicero
Dec 17, 2003

Jumpjet, melta, jumpjet. Repeat for ten minutes or until victory is assured.
SF rents continue to decline, down 10% + extras now since the pandemic started: https://socketsite.com/archives/2020/08/asking-rents-in-san-francisco-down-nearly-20-percent-from-peak.html

quote:

With listing activity having spiked, the weighted average asking rent for an apartment in San Francisco has dropped another hundred dollars ($100), or roughly 3 percent, over the past two weeks and is now down to a little under $3,600 a month, continuing a trend which shouldn’t catch any plugged-in readers by surprise.

While $3,600 a month still isn’t “cheap,” it’s over 10 percent or $500 per month cheaper than just five months ago, 17 percent ($700) cheaper than at the same time last year and nearly 20 percent ($850) cheaper than a 2015-era peak of around $4,450 per month. And the average asking rent for a one-bedroom in the city, versus an average-sized apartment with 2.4 bedrooms when counting a studio as having one, is now back under $3,100 a month, having peaked at closer to $3,700, as well.

At the same time, offers of complimentary rent and cash concessions haven’t waned, driving effective rents down even more. And as we noted last month when listed activity spiked, with over twice as many apartments now being advertised for rent in the city than there were at the same time last year, including one-off rentals as well as units in larger developments, expect even more downward pressure on both asking and effective rents in the near-term.

FilthyImp
Sep 30, 2002

Anime Deviant

Anonymous Zebra posted:

The short answer. . .
Thank you for a thoughtful post in response to my admittedly poo poo'n drop of the pod article.

It is going to be very, very interesting to see the landscape of education in 3 years. Personally, I think the districts will have to devote a lot of time and energy to get additional content coaches and supplemental classes to shore up all the lost educational time. And we will most definitely see poo poo like middle schoolers having trouble with fractions because there was no way for intervention to help when they were struggling with online worksheets and Zoom.

I can tell you that the reason the large districts aren't going with pod-style instruction is not only due to the various Unions, but also because of the PR/legal nightmare that would ensue if one pod (much less one school) were to get exposed. When LA was mulling over going into quarantine in March, all the administrators had on their mind was "what do we do if someone tests positive". Keep in mind also that a lot of educators aren't comfortable returning until there's a vaccine or definite contact-tracing steps in place to control the spread. In that respect, the union objections are in place to help ensure that their membership is being taken care of.

One of my coworkers volunteered to help with local school food distribution in the first month. He likely contracted Corona and quarantined himself immediately. Now, in all fairness this was before the district developed more streamlined and distanced processes for meal distribution, but this was out in the open air, with about 5 feet between himself and the public, with PPE/sanitizer and gloves available. It's not surprising the prospect of being in a classroom is worrisome for both parents and teachers.

I'll also be very honest and agree that all the districts have had a "wait and see" attitude with respect to what this semester would look like. The range of prep has been anything from "Legally we can't contact teachers during summer" to "plan for hybrid instruction with 1-2 days of in-person schooling and the rest online" to "we plan to open so don't prep any online work". If everyone had just said in May "plan for online" we may have been in a better state. There's still a host of educational situations that can't be replicated online -- shop class, theatre, technical classes, in-class supports -- for which I honestly can't imagine a solution.

And finally, online instruction itself is hard to get right. The first month, all the educators and students were stressed it because they were trying to cram their in-person workload into an online space. Teachers were harried, students were overwhelmed with work, and in the case of LA the union stepped in to limit instruction guidelines and instead focus on a more college-like schedule (lecture, office hours, less assignments per week but more emphasis on critical thinking/etc). I think current guidelines are 90 minutes live instruction per week, and parents think it needs to be bumped up. And yeah, this obviously could work for middle or high schoolers, but elementary kids need way more in-person/interactive stimulation. I said a while back that the special needs kids should probably be prioritized for a return to the classroom but someone noted that the comorbidities of that group make implementation a nightmare.

Anonymous Zebra posted:

I'm still convinced that if a couple of big brains sat on Zoom for a week throwing ideas at the wall, that we could have gotten most of the RUSD student population into pods that were safe.
The weird "it'll be fine by then" expectations during this whole thing torpedo any planning like this. Add the layer of "how do we pay/what are the liabilities" and the prospect of negotiation with the unions and it just results in absolutely no pressure to be forward thinking regarding this. Plus, any efforts to get kids in class again are stymied by anti-mask idiots.

I'm terms of "this is absolutely stupid", I'm scheduled for a department/classification meeting next week -- a general 2 hour slog of "hey remember these guidelines and regs" that is a ling powerpoint presentation and some documents. The supervisors have "kindly suggested" we dial into this Zoom meeting from our work sites.

FilthyImp fucked around with this message at 16:10 on Aug 11, 2020

The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?


Hair Elf
Biden is picking Kamala for VP per everyone

Cicero
Dec 17, 2003

Jumpjet, melta, jumpjet. Repeat for ten minutes or until victory is assured.
That means special election for new CA senator if they win, right?

The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?


Hair Elf

Cicero posted:

That means special election for new CA senator if they win, right?

Governor gets to appoint someone to fill the rest of the term, so congrats Senator Newsom

Sydin
Oct 29, 2011

Another spring commute

The Glumslinger posted:

Governor gets to appoint someone to fill the rest of the term, so congrats Senator Newsom

lmao

Stunt_enby
Feb 6, 2010

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

The Glumslinger posted:

Biden is picking Kamala for VP per everyone
yes president copmala is exactly what we need during a time where literally everyone hates the police, smooth loving move lmao
i can already picture the attack ads in my mind

withak
Jan 15, 2003


Fun Shoe
Finally some law enforcement representation in the executive branch.

Cicero
Dec 17, 2003

Jumpjet, melta, jumpjet. Repeat for ten minutes or until victory is assured.
Aw man, was hoping for Senator Weiner.

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Wicked Them Beats
Apr 1, 2007

Moralists don't really *have* beliefs. Sometimes they stumble on one, like on a child's toy left on the carpet. The toy must be put away immediately. And the child reprimanded.

Senator Gavin Newsom

Senator Loretta Sanchez

Senator Tom Steyer

So many chambers and a bullet in each one.

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