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Andy Dufresne
Aug 4, 2010

The only good race pace is suicide pace, and today looks like a good day to die
So I guess this isn't a good time to tell the thread that my LBS has the $5000 road bike I was thinking about buying in stock in my size

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kimbo305
Jun 9, 2007

actually, yeah, I am a little mad
Some MTBs don’t have bottle cages in the main triangle :thunk:

bicievino
Feb 5, 2015

Andy Dufresne posted:

So I guess this isn't a good time to tell the thread that my LBS has the $5000 road bike I was thinking about buying in stock in my size

What color?

e.pilot
Nov 20, 2011

sometimes maybe good
sometimes maybe shit

bicievino posted:

What color?

Asking the important questions :hmmyes:

Lyndon LaRouche
Sep 5, 2006

by Azathoth

Andy Dufresne posted:

So I guess this isn't a good time to tell the thread that my LBS has the $5000 road bike I was thinking about buying in stock in my size

Have you considered spending that $5000 not on a road bike, but on a TT bike.

Andy Dufresne
Aug 4, 2010

The only good race pace is suicide pace, and today looks like a good day to die
Turquoise and red https://www.specialized.com/us/en/tarmac-sl7-expert---ultegra-di2/p/175295

Andy Dufresne
Aug 4, 2010

The only good race pace is suicide pace, and today looks like a good day to die

paperwind posted:

Have you considered spending that $5000 not on a road bike, but on a TT bike.

Those don't look good tho

Lyndon LaRouche
Sep 5, 2006

by Azathoth

Andy Dufresne posted:

Those don't look good tho
Not this?


Or this?


OR THIS?

spf3million
Sep 27, 2007

hit 'em with the rhythm

Andy Dufresne posted:

Those don't look good tho
This guy gets it, welcome to the bike club friend

bicievino
Feb 5, 2015


Have you seen it in person?

That's... I mean, hey, if you love it then I guess I'm happy for you.

becoming
Aug 25, 2004

Bat/Rabies update - got checked out by my (new) primary care physician today, she recommended me for the post-exposure prophylaxis at the local hospital; I called them, they referred me to my county's Health Department, and the rabies specialist there agreed that physical contact with a bat, especially at a spot of broken skin, was an exposure and that I should receive the PEP. I went to the ER and after waiting a few hours for the on-site pharmacy to send down the human rabies immunoglobulin (HRIG) and the first vaccination, I received my shots. They dose the HRIG by weight, and for me (6'1", 210) this was 14cc spread out over five different shots - left quad (3cc), right quad (3cc), left delt (2cc), and then repeats in my quads. In my right delt I got the first dose of the vaccine. I'll receive the second dose Friday morning, the third dose next Tuesday morning, and the fourth (final) dose the Tuesday after that. The HRIG costs about $15,000 USD before insurance pays their share, and each dosage of the vaccine is about $300 USD.

My quads are sore, my delts are sore, but I probably won't develop rabies and that's some relief.

As a point of information for the thread, every single healthcare professional that I talked to about this instantly and adamantly stated that I should receive the PEP after physical contact with a bat, even when no bite or scratch was believed to have occurred. The rabies specialist at the Health Department didn't seem to care whether the skin was broken - "You and the bat touched, we don't have the bat to test, that counts as an exposure and you are getting the PEP."

Lessons learned - If you hit a bat while riding your bicycle, try to collect it (without physically touching it ideally) so it can be tested for rabies. If you don't collect it, but you made physical contact with it, you are probably going to need the post-exposure prophylaxis, and this will cost you somewhere between a crankset and two new top-of-the-line Tern GSDs depending on how good your health insurance is. This is by all accounts still preferable to contracting rabies, no matter how badly one wants a Tern GSD.

e.pilot
Nov 20, 2011

sometimes maybe good
sometimes maybe shit

Andy Dufresne posted:

Those don't look good tho

lol look at this guy that’s never seen the Canyon Speedmax

HAIL eSATA-n
Apr 7, 2007


Terrible Taste

Lyndon LaRouche
Sep 5, 2006

by Azathoth

becoming posted:

The HRIG costs about $15,000 USD before insurance pays their share, and each dosage of the vaccine is about $300 USD.

God bless America.

BeastPussy
Jul 15, 2003

im so mumped up lmao

e.pilot posted:

lol look at this guy that’s never seen the Canyon Speedmax


have you? :barf:

HAIL eSATA-n
Apr 7, 2007


paperwind posted:

God bless America.

Worse than triathletes

Lyndon LaRouche
Sep 5, 2006

by Azathoth

HAIL eSATA-n posted:

Worse than triathletes

You know that America invented triathlon right.

EvilJoven
Mar 18, 2005

NOBODY,IN THE HISTORY OF EVER, HAS ASKED OR CARED WHAT CANADA THINKS. YOU ARE NOT A COUNTRY. YOUR MONEY HAS THE QUEEN OF ENGLAND ON IT. IF YOU DIG AROUND IN YOUR BACKYARD, NATIVE SKELETONS WOULD EXPLODE OUT OF YOUR LAWN LIKE THE END OF POLTERGEIST. CANADA IS SO POLITE, EH?
Fun Shoe

becoming posted:

Bat/Rabies update
14cc spread out over five different shots - left quad (3cc), right quad (3cc), left delt (2cc), and then repeats in my quads.

Starting to think the doctor I went to just wanted to stab someone in the rear end.

quote:

The HRIG costs about $15,000 USD before insurance pays their share, and each dosage of the vaccine is about $300 USD.

What the gently caress America.

HAIL eSATA-n
Apr 7, 2007


:patriot:

Feels Villeneuve
Oct 7, 2007

Setter is Better.
I was writing up a big effort op but after these last posts
I'm deleting it and just saying that aero is fake and aero frames are ugly and should be trashed

e.pilot
Nov 20, 2011

sometimes maybe good
sometimes maybe shit

Feels Villeneuve posted:

I was writing up a big effort op but after these last posts
I'm deleting it and just saying that aero is fake and aero frames are ugly and should be trashed

must suck being too slow to take advantage of an aero bike

HAIL eSATA-n
Apr 7, 2007


Aero frames look like little plastic toys from the pasts vision of the future

HAIL eSATA-n
Apr 7, 2007


e.pilot posted:

must suck being too slow to take advantage of an aero bike

Gives me more time to appreciate the ride :colbert:

kimbo305
Jun 9, 2007

actually, yeah, I am a little mad

Feels Villeneuve posted:

I was writing up a big effort op but after these last posts
I'm deleting it and just saying that aero is fake and aero frames are ugly and should be trashed

But the newbies need the contenttttt.

Feels Villeneuve
Oct 7, 2007

Setter is Better.
"aerodynamics" was a scam pseudoscience invented by Canadians in 2003 to sell ugly bicycles. Few know this

Levitate
Sep 30, 2005

randy newman voice

YOU'VE GOT A LAFRENIÈRE IN ME

vikingstrike posted:

Don’t spend 5k on a road bike. Spend 5k on MTB. At the same time, you will also be buying the best most versatile gravel bike on the market.

You've sold me on the idea, take my money!

e:

e.pilot posted:

lol look at this guy that’s never seen the Canyon Speedmax



Someone who posts in this thread (sometimes) has this bike...

Levitate fucked around with this message at 04:11 on Aug 12, 2020

becoming
Aug 25, 2004

EvilJoven posted:

Starting to think the doctor I went to just wanted to stab someone in the rear end.


What the gently caress America.

Yeeeeep. I was sitting in the ER today thinking about how lucky I am that I happen to make a pretty good salary and have good health insurance. I’ll pay somewhere between $380 and $1200 out of pocket, depending on how the vaccine from the health department gets billed, and while that’s certainly money I could spend on something else, it’s not enough that it’s even a question of whether or not I’d get the treatment - I’ll happily pay it and have the peace of mind that I won’t develop rabies... but there’s a significant portion of America that is uninsured or underinsured, and for those folks there may be an actual question of whether to just chance it and live with the risk that they might some day develop rabies. I was varying levels of worried about this for three full days, I can’t imagine waiting out an incubation period that’s been known to last as long as eight years. Three days kinda sucked, imagine going through the stress of trying to figure out a way to pay for it, deciding that you can’t, and then going “welp, I guess I just hope I don’t die”.

I guess with something like rabies, if you can’t afford the treatment you just get it anyway and deal with the bills/collections later. So instead of the stress of “will I die a horrible death?” it’s the stress of “will I survive this medical-debt bankruptcy?”

Anyway, not trying to make this a Big Thing but basically Don’t Touch American Bats, It Is Expensive.

The Wiggly Wizard
Aug 21, 2008


kimbo305 posted:

But the newbies need the contenttttt.

lol the OP is making me blush please just delete it and put links for the other bike threads

e.pilot posted:

This is the Bicycle Megathread and we're here to help

...

The modern bicycle is nearly 140 years old, and typically consists of two roughly equally sized wheels, a metal (or carbon fibre) frame, some pedals, and various parts to turn your pedalling into forward motion and let you steer and brake.

...

Unicycles are not bicycles, because they only have one wheel. I don't think we need a unicycle thread.

...

E-Bikes
No.

...

Generally a set of components will the called a "gruppo".

....

for newer bikes you can find great info on parktools.com.

Andy Dufresne
Aug 4, 2010

The only good race pace is suicide pace, and today looks like a good day to die

bicievino posted:

Have you seen it in person?

That's... I mean, hey, if you love it then I guess I'm happy for you.

I'm going to take a look at it tomorrow while I buy some shoes but I won't walk out with it. The pictures look good to me though.

I'm in the conundrum of my existing bike being old and bad and I've already got the money set aside for my new ride. The three bikes I've focused on so far are that Tarmac, this Canyon, and this Madone. The red Madone is in stock about 30 miles away but tbh I like the yellow one more. I'm all ears for other bikes in the range I should look at. Genuinely not afraid of aggressive positioning or a stiff ride, I just want to go fast and eventually clip on some tri bars (Canyon has previously made tri bars for that cockpit but I'm not sure if they still do).

becoming posted:

Bat/Rabies update

This is a genuinely disappointing story, and I'm so sorry this happened to you :(

Lyndon LaRouche
Sep 5, 2006

by Azathoth

Andy Dufresne posted:

The red Madone is in stock about 30 miles away but tbh I like the yellow one more.

I'll help make this decision-making easier for you. Trek makes cop bikes so gently caress them.

Modal Auxiliary
Jan 14, 2005

Also Specialized has a fairly well-deserved reputation as an industry bully and the blue fade on that Aeroad absolutely fucks. Canyon all the way.

I am, however, a Crux-riding hypocrite, so my opinion could very well be based on subconscious guilt.

Modal Auxiliary fucked around with this message at 04:53 on Aug 12, 2020

Levitate
Sep 30, 2005

randy newman voice

YOU'VE GOT A LAFRENIÈRE IN ME

paperwind posted:

I'll help make this decision-making easier for you. Trek makes cop bikes so gently caress them.

This is the correct answer.

Good Dog
Oct 16, 2008

Who threw this cat at me?
Clapping Larry

Levitate posted:

You've sold me on the idea, take my money!

e:


Someone who posts in this thread (sometimes) has this bike...

Mine is all black and more expensive than that model and you bet your rear end I commuted to work on it today.


Let's convince Andy to get a TT bike so he can be a top 1% triathlete just based on his running ability.

bicievino
Feb 5, 2015

Andy Dufresne posted:

I'm going to take a look at it tomorrow while I buy some shoes but I won't walk out with it. The pictures look good to me though.

I'm in the conundrum of my existing bike being old and bad and I've already got the money set aside for my new ride. The three bikes I've focused on so far are that Tarmac, this Canyon, and this Madone. The red Madone is in stock about 30 miles away but tbh I like the yellow one more. I'm all ears for other bikes in the range I should look at. Genuinely not afraid of aggressive positioning or a stiff ride, I just want to go fast and eventually clip on some tri bars (Canyon has previously made tri bars for that cockpit but I'm not sure if they still do).


This is a genuinely disappointing story, and I'm so sorry this happened to you :(

Yeah, it didn't tickle me personally but I dislike red, and just can't stop thinking it'd look better if it were just the blue/teal of the rear triangle.
But, people like different colors, so if you dig it, of those three I would *absolutely* go for the Specialized. The Canyon is super dated at this point, and Trek makes cop bikes.

I would ask 'em about how hard it's gonna be to do clip-on aerobars though... I haven't seen anything about that, and I know with some bars it's just straight up not a thing (even when advertised as such - ask e.pilot about the clipons for his giant propel).

TobinHatesYou
Aug 14, 2007

wacky cycling inflatable
tube man

Andy Dufresne posted:

I'm going to take a look at it tomorrow while I buy some shoes but I won't walk out with it. The pictures look good to me though.

I'm in the conundrum of my existing bike being old and bad and I've already got the money set aside for my new ride. The three bikes I've focused on so far are that Tarmac, this Canyon, and this Madone. The red Madone is in stock about 30 miles away but tbh I like the yellow one more. I'm all ears for other bikes in the range I should look at. Genuinely not afraid of aggressive positioning or a stiff ride, I just want to go fast and eventually clip on some tri bars (Canyon has previously made tri bars for that cockpit but I'm not sure if they still do).


I know you said aggressive geometry is fine, but make sure to double-check... The Aeroad is particularly long and low in most sizes. Also while aero bikes do chase some real wattage savings, the majority of the aero drag comes from the rider...then the cockpit and wheels. Putting deep wheels and an integrated aero bar/stem on the SL7 is primarily how they made it "as fast as a Venge." You *will* feel the extra weight of the Madone SL when riding up hills.

TobinHatesYou fucked around with this message at 07:12 on Aug 12, 2020

bicievino
Feb 5, 2015

Probably impossible to test ride, but if you're looking at Canyon maybe that isn't a dealbreaker.
You might also consider this Orbea: https://www.orbea.com/us-en/bicycles/road/orca/cat/orca-m20iteam

In contrast to Trek, the cop-bike-sellers, Orbea is a neat employee-owned cooperative.
They've also got a custom paint scheme like Trek but more reasonably priced.

Feels Villeneuve
Oct 7, 2007

Setter is Better.
I still can't believe Specialized threatened to sue someone for using "Roubaix" in their Cafe name when it turned out they didn't even own the rights to that brand but were licensing it from the owners of Fuji. Just incredible.


I actually really like old Specialized bikes but I'll never get a new one after stories like that.

bicievino
Feb 5, 2015

Feels Villeneuve posted:

I still can't believe Specialized threatened to sue someone for using "Roubaix" in their Cafe name when it turned out they didn't even own the rights to that brand but were licensing it from the owners of Fuji. Just incredible.


I actually really like old Specialized bikes but I'll never get a new one after stories like that.

Yeah, that was super lovely.
What they've been doing with supporting greater representation in the sport in more recent years is enough to turn my opinion, though.

rope kid
Feb 3, 2001

Warte nur! Balde
Ruhest du auch.

Longshot, but does anyone have experience with early- to mid-70s Gitane TdFs or Olympics? I have a stupid idea I can't let go of and it involves a 650b conversion on an old Gitane. I'd like to know what the 700c max widths are at the fork and chainstays.

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kimbo305
Jun 9, 2007

actually, yeah, I am a little mad
Hope much is a frame? Why not just roll the dice? FWIW, I was only able to go 700x23 to 650Bx32, and the ~1cm BB drop is noticeable. Not to the point of weird, but different.

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