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fishing with the fam
Feb 29, 2008

Durr

CannonFodder posted:

In the bad Joplin MO tornado, the one that shifted the hospital from it's foundation, there was a group of people that sheltered in a conveience store walk in beer cooler. They survived but had some cuts and bruises because the tornado still ripped holes in the roof and wall.

Here's a long form article about it.
https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a32967/joplin-tornado-stories-1011/

There are two videos of this, during and after, that are incredibly visceral in the depiction of the power of a tornado. I'm still stunned and anxious watching these.

https://youtu.be/cQnvxJZucds
https://youtu.be/W-P4P68YyNM

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Azathoth
Apr 3, 2001

MRC48B posted:

This is osha. Did they really make the walk-in cooler their shelter area.

Most walk-ins are styrofoam walls lined with tinfoil, filled with heavily overloaded shelving that can easily tip over. :negative:
At a minimum, you're guaranteed not to eat any broken glass or flying debris.

If you're in a walk in cooler and poo poo is so bad that the shelves are falling and the tornado took out the outer walls and still has enough energy to take out the cooler too, well, there's not gonna be any place that's safe. At that point, everyone's getting hurt to some degree, and broken bones from falling shelves or food is way less than what you'd get anywhere else. The bathroom might be better, but if that's already packed full or there's not time to get there, a walk in is a close second.

Bad Munki
Nov 4, 2008

We're all mad here.


https://i.imgur.com/hikxAhq.gifv

WarpedNaba
Feb 8, 2012

Being social makes me swell!
That... went oddly without incident.

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
Why wasn't that road closed?

Fur20
Nov 14, 2007

すご▞い!
君は働か░い
フ▙▓ズなんだね!

Cojawfee posted:

Why wasn't that road closed?

no why with texan characteristics

HelloIAmYourHeart
Dec 29, 2008
Fallen Rib

CannonFodder posted:

In the bad Joplin MO tornado, the one that shifted the hospital from it's foundation, there was a group of people that sheltered in a conveience store walk in beer cooler. They survived but had some cuts and bruises because the tornado still ripped holes in the roof and wall.

Here's a long form article about it.
https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a32967/joplin-tornado-stories-1011/

About two weeks after this happened, I called a doctor's office in Joplin because they'd referred a patient to the practice I worked at, but we never got any records. The conversation went something like:

me: Hey can you fax me the last exam?

other woman: No, our office is gone.

me: Like... gone gone?

other woman: Yeah.

I don't remember how they still had a phone line, but I do remember writing something in the chart like "All previous records destroyed in tornado".

edit: I am still trying to upload all my Yuma Proving Ground pictures to imgur but it will only do a few at a time and there are dozens. Here's a teaser though, featuring my grandfather in the white shirt.

HelloIAmYourHeart fucked around with this message at 04:06 on Aug 12, 2020

Turrurrurrurrrrrrr
Dec 22, 2018

I hope this is "battle" enough for you, friend.

Have any Tornado chasers filmed getting ja caught up in one while wearing American football Gear or an Ursus Mark VI?

Pissed Ape Sexist
Apr 19, 2008

HelloIAmYourHeart posted:


edit: I am still trying to upload all my Yuma Proving Ground pictures to imgur but it will only do a few at a time and there are dozens. Here's a teaser though, featuring my grandfather in the white shirt.



I wish I had a job where I could look that casually cool and wrench on sciencey weapons poo poo. Your grandpa in his cool glasses and engineer regalia owns more than enough to bypass the obligatory 'your mom's dildo' joke

KoRMaK
Jul 31, 2012



Pissed Ape Sexist posted:

I wish I had a job where I could look that casually cool and wrench on sciencey weapons poo poo. Your grandpa in his cool glasses and engineer regalia owns more than enough to bypass the obligatory 'your mom's dildo' joke
yea I wish I worked for the military industrial complex too and got to science the hell out of American imperialism

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius

KoRMaK posted:

yea I wish I worked for the military industrial complex too and got to science the hell out of American imperialism

Once he built missiles, a nation's defense
Now he can't even buy birthday presents

Scratch Monkey
Oct 25, 2010

👰Proč bychom se netěšili🥰když nám Pán Bůh🙌🏻zdraví dá💪?

ekuNNN
Nov 27, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
https://twitter.com/BBCScotlandNews/status/1293513410697744385

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


VectorSigma posted:

A fully stocked chest freezer will go several days before even starting to thaw, provided you open it sparingly and briefly, and it isn't in a space that requires A/C to not be 90°F in August in Iowa. Ice can be used to fill air space in freezers and add to thermal mass, moving to a cooler will only hasten loss. While the freezer portion of a typical fridge ain't got poo poo on a good chest freezer, it still beats a cooler.

I lasted over a fortnight with a house of 5 on 2 eskys and a regular standup fridge/freezer after a cyclone. We setup a triage of sorts on importance of storage and usage. All the seafood I'd caught prior were first to be cooked and eaten, then slowly worked through the frozen meats. Luckily the freezer was old and was half frosted over so that ice helped in the long run. My beers were sunk to bottom of the pool in the deep shady end and would stay 'kinda cool'.

LifeSunDeath
Jan 4, 2007

still gay rights and smoke weed every day

Goddamn alpha nerds

TorpedoFish
Feb 19, 2006

Tingly.

shame on an IGA posted:

Walk-in freezers are a great place to be in a weather event and a terrible place to be in a fire

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamlet_chicken_processing_plant_fire

When you're being weighed against triangle shirtwaist and texas city in the 1990s it... ain't great.

quote:

Recommendations Edit
The final report made ten recommendations. A summary:[2]

Life safety codes must be enforced. Proper enforcement of existing regulations must occur in future.
The building had no fire alarm system, no sprinklers, and multiple exits were padlocked and/or boarded up by management "to prevent theft". And there had never been a single safety inspection in the 11 years of operation.

But don't worry, the owner, who had ordered the doors locked, was sentenced to 19 years but served less than 4 in prison!

Phanatic
Mar 13, 2007

Please don't forget that I am an extremely racist idiot who also has terrible opinions about the Culture series.

KoRMaK posted:

yea I wish I worked for the military industrial complex too and got to science the hell out of American imperialism

It’s pretty cool.

resting bort face
Jun 2, 2000

by Fluffdaddy

CannonFodder posted:

In the bad Joplin MO tornado, the one that shifted the hospital from it's foundation, there was a group of people that sheltered in a conveience store walk in beer cooler. They survived but had some cuts and bruises because the tornado still ripped holes in the roof and wall.

Here's a long form article about it.
https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a32967/joplin-tornado-stories-1011/

I was going to post this exact article. Terrifying.

Bacon Taco
Jun 8, 2006

Now with extra narwhal meat!
HAIKOOLIGAN
Dinosaur Gum

A few years before I went to high school in rural Wisconsin, a light plane did this to our school bus. Just a little one-runway airstrip, just off the highway, with no tower; the plane came in a little low. Sadly I wasn't on the bus, and even if I had been, it was the 80s so no cell phone camera. They put up signs on the highway afterwards to warn of low-flying aircraft, though! The signs are still there 35 years later.

https://goo.gl/maps/vSwcnFzBE6k7v6486

Drone_Fragger
May 9, 2007



Texas blows up one Beirut a week in unregulated, unreported fertiliser and chemical plant accidents, and you're asking why a fairly safe barn demolition would need a road to be closed?

Cartoon Man
Jan 31, 2004


https://i.imgur.com/lhPnD5Q.mp4

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
Is it just the poor quality of the video or did she just will that drill bit into existence?

Lurking Haro
Oct 27, 2009

Cojawfee posted:

Is it just the poor quality of the video or did she just will that drill bit into existence?

Yes.

SyNack Sassimov
May 4, 2006

Let the robot win.
            --Captain James T. Vader


Cojawfee posted:

Is it just the poor quality of the video or did she just will that drill bit into existence?

:confused:

It's just a pop-out drill bit? You can get them from anywhere, Home Depot, Amazon etc. They're really handy for working on marg machines.

Slanderer
May 6, 2007

Nothing wrong with a DIY hammer drill

Cartoon Man
Jan 31, 2004


https://i.imgur.com/5iMPW9I.gifv

haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



Toilet Rascal

Cojawfee posted:

Is it just the poor quality of the video or did she just will that drill bit into existence?

That unlocks at Smithing 80-something

The Lone Badger
Sep 24, 2007

Bacon Taco posted:

A few years before I went to high school in rural Wisconsin, a light plane did this to our school bus. Just a little one-runway airstrip, just off the highway, with no tower; the plane came in a little low. Sadly I wasn't on the bus, and even if I had been, it was the 80s so no cell phone camera. They put up signs on the highway afterwards to warn of low-flying aircraft, though! The signs are still there 35 years later.

https://goo.gl/maps/vSwcnFzBE6k7v6486

So... what are the drivers supposed to do about the low-flying planes?

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin

The Lone Badger posted:

So... what are the drivers supposed to do about the low-flying planes?

Watch out for them, if you see one, come to a stop to make sure you don't hit it. The plane can't exactly come to a stop and wait for you.

Content:

https://twitter.com/brianwhelton/status/1293581577843351553

Memento fucked around with this message at 01:21 on Aug 13, 2020

ncumbered_by_idgits
Sep 20, 2008


Good night fellas, ima go reevaluate my life choices up until today because clearly I’ve come up short compared to this guy. My mind is loving blown.

Batterypowered7
Aug 8, 2009

The mist that chills you keeps me warm.

https://i.imgur.com/tvAxNPn.mp4

Moms_Not_Home.mp4

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012


Ok so I looked up this incident because I was curious about what I thought I saw on the runway, and turns out my suspicions were correct. This is the north end of 52F, Northwest Regional Airport in Roanoke, Texas:



In the satellite photo we can see the road perpendicular to the runway and the white fence, confirming that the airplane was landing on runway 17 (flying south). The relevant markings here are the yellow bar and white arrows. The yellow centerline denotes that the beginning of the paved surface is a taxiway, and may not be used for any takeoff or landing operations. That is, you need to taxi up to the solid yellow demarcation bar before starting your takeoff roll. The yellow bar followed by the white arrows is what's called a "displaced threshold" -- this is a segment of the runway that cannot be landed on. You can start your takeoff roll in the displaced threshold, or you can use it in the opposite direction for your landing rollout, but you need to touch down after the heavy white line that represents the beginning of the runway landing area. Displaced thresholds are common when there are obstacles at the approach end of the runway that would make it unsafe to land right at the start of the pavement, such as trees, berms, fences, or roads. By moving the touchdown point down the runway, you raise the approach enough to keep clear of things on the ground.

In order to clip the car, the plane's wheels had to be about 6 feet off the ground as he came over the road. That's already in ground effect, already in the landing flare, way too soon to touch down beyond the threshold. You can see from his shadow that he barely clears the fence, too. He probably would have landed on the taxiway segment. Some basic math shows that if he'd been on a standard 3-degree glide slope aimed directly for the numbers, he would have been 35 feet in the air when crossing the road, not 6.

It was a student pilot, but he still should have known better. Students get trained and tested on runway markings before they're allowed to fly solo. This one is total pilot error, unfortunately.

Bacon Taco posted:

A few years before I went to high school in rural Wisconsin, a light plane did this to our school bus. Just a little one-runway airstrip, just off the highway, with no tower; the plane came in a little low. Sadly I wasn't on the bus, and even if I had been, it was the 80s so no cell phone camera. They put up signs on the highway afterwards to warn of low-flying aircraft, though! The signs are still there 35 years later.

https://goo.gl/maps/vSwcnFzBE6k7v6486

You will notice on the satellite view that both ends of your runway also have the displaced threshold markings.


The Lone Badger posted:

So... what are the drivers supposed to do about the low-flying planes?

Well, the pilots are supposed to be able to fly their plane to avoid clipping things on the ground. On a checkride you have to demonstrate the techniques required to land on a shortened runway and steepen your approach to avoid obstacles. I think the sign is more to prevent drivers from being startled when a plane suddenly roars over their car. But coming to a stop so that you don't pass directly underneath the airplane, just in case something goes wrong, is probably a good idea.

Sagebrush fucked around with this message at 01:52 on Aug 13, 2020

Cartoon Man
Jan 31, 2004


Go home bridge builder, you’re drunk.









Space Kablooey
May 6, 2009


Sagebrush posted:

Ok so I looked up this incident because I was curious about what I thought I saw on the runway, and turns out my suspicions were correct. This is the north end of 52F, Northwest Regional Airport in Roanoke, Texas:



In the satellite photo we can see the road perpendicular to the runway and the white fence, confirming that the airplane was landing on runway 17 (flying south). The relevant markings here are the yellow bar and white arrows. The yellow centerline denotes that the beginning of the paved surface is a taxiway, and may not be used for any takeoff or landing operations. That is, you need to taxi up to the solid yellow demarcation bar before starting your takeoff roll. The yellow bar followed by the white arrows is what's called a "displaced threshold" -- this is a segment of the runway that cannot be landed on. You can start your takeoff roll in the displaced threshold, or you can use it in the opposite direction for your landing rollout, but you need to touch down after the heavy white line that represents the beginning of the runway landing area. Displaced thresholds are common when there are obstacles at the approach end of the runway that would make it unsafe to land right at the start of the pavement, such as trees, berms, fences, or roads. By moving the touchdown point down the runway, you raise the approach enough to keep clear of things on the ground.

In order to clip the car, the plane's wheels had to be about 6 feet off the ground as he came over the road. That's already in ground effect, already in the landing flare, way too soon to touch down beyond the threshold. You can see from his shadow that he barely clears the fence, too. He probably would have landed on the taxiway segment. Some basic math shows that if he'd been on a standard 3-degree glide slope aimed directly for the numbers, he would have been 35 feet in the air when crossing the road, not 6.

It was a student pilot, but he still should have known better. Students get trained and tested on runway markings before they're allowed to fly solo. This one is total pilot error, unfortunately.


You will notice on the satellite view that both ends of your runway also have the displaced threshold markings.


Well, the pilots are supposed to be able to fly their plane to avoid clipping things on the ground. On a checkride you have to demonstrate the techniques required to land on a shortened runway and steepen your approach to avoid obstacles. I think the sign is more to prevent drivers from being startled when a plane suddenly roars over their car. But coming to a stop so that you don't pass directly underneath the airplane, just in case something goes wrong, is probably a good idea.

so youre saying that they should have raised the plane?

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
If they were driving a Miata, they wouldn't have been hit.

Miata
Is
Always
The
Answer

Cartoon Man
Jan 31, 2004


https://i.imgur.com/Yb0y26r.mp4

HelloIAmYourHeart
Dec 29, 2008
Fallen Rib

Eventually the fish on either side will evolve into completely separate species.

Atticus_1354
Dec 10, 2006

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Cartoon Man posted:

Go home bridge builder, you’re drunk.



I hope there's a hole in the bottom so it doesn't fill up when it rains.

Jet Jaguar
Feb 12, 2006

Don't touch my bags if you please, Mr Customs Man.




He can't weigh nearly enough for that to be worth doing. Unless his bones are neutronium or something.

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Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin

Jet Jaguar posted:

He can't weigh nearly enough for that to be worth doing. Unless his bones are neutronium or something.

Nope, all he's doing is adding to the casualty count if that thing goes over.

I don't know as much about cranes as other posters but I think if your jack leg thingies start lifting up, you're overloaded.

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