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StormDrain posted:That was a good post, I wanted to refute that statement but I would not have done it as well. I think a lot of it is that older homes that are still standing tend to be better built, as all the lovely ones got torn down or massively remodeled. My 1911 house is not an example of this principle tho. Leviathan Song posted:They seem to be uses a lot in slab foundations with plumbing underneath. I honestly don't understand how you're supposed to replace the plumbing without razing the building. Someone in AI had an in-slab sewer connection leak, solution is to jackhammer around it, it's very expensive. My kitchen is on a slab, at some point rather than trench it to run the sink drain, they piped it through the wall and into the gorge.
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Elviscat posted:I think a lot of it is that older homes that are still standing tend to be better built, as all the lovely ones got torn down or massively remodeled. That's bad enough in a regular slab but can you even jackhammer a tension slab? Wouldn't you have to carefully avoid the cables?
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Leviathan Song posted:That's bad enough in a regular slab but can you even jackhammer a tension slab? Wouldn't you have to carefully avoid the cables? Yes, you x-ray it, or something similar. Looking forward to 30 years from now when yahoos are making repairs and modifications on all the lovely multifamily being built now.
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Elviscat posted:My kitchen is on a slab, at some point rather than trench it to run the sink drain, they piped it through the wall and into the gorge. Geologically still piped into a trench
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tinytort posted:The pants vs shorts thing is because on a construction site (or in a factory) is because you're working with sharp materials that can cut through skin easily, as well as stuff that you don't want making skin contact. If you're wearing long pants, you're usually wearing denim jeans, which are sturdy enough to provide a good layer of protection; shorts mean bare skin from the knee to the socks. Maybe you missed the point, which is that different countries have different standards, norms and expectations. These australians would call you an idiot for wearing full length pants in 100 degree heat to save you from possibly getting a scratch that wouldn't need a bandage.  If I instead posted a photo of a japanese workman, someone would say that his pants are dangerously baggy, and liable to get caught on something, causing potential accidents 
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Southeast Asia construction crew, everyone in sandals and shorts chain-smoking.
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Sloppy posted:Yes, you x-ray it, or something similar. Looking forward to 30 years from now when yahoos are making repairs and modifications on all the lovely multifamily being built now. Sunken tub 2 gonna be lit
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someone repost that video of the guys piledriving a post into the ground by stomping on a board in time to a song the foreman sings.
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This one? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shqaQopEmhY
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Ok, that was cool.
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I remember a slightly different video, but it works. thanks.
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The IUPAT allows painters and drywall finishers to wear shorts, but often aren't allowed by GCs due to liability insurance issues
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Slanderer posted:If I instead posted a photo of a japanese workman, someone would say that his pants are dangerously baggy, and liable to get caught on something, causing potential accidents I will say that those split-toe boots look great - I bet they give noticeably better control on difficult footing.
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Just don't ever play that song after the house is built.
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Computer viking posted:I will say that those split-toe boots look great - I bet they give noticeably better control on difficult footing. They come in steel toe versions too and I'll be damned if they aren't the most  
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Megillah Gorilla posted:They come in steel toe versions too and I'll be damned if they aren't the most If someone else foots the bill I'll wear those on patrol all day.
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Slanderer posted:This thread and the OSHA thread have both revealed a bunch of trades that are done differently in America, the UK and Europe, and everyone insists they are doing it Correctly despite having maybe witnessed alternative techniques and standards once 20 years ago. With the exception of really obvious deficiencies (ring mains in the UK, US electrical plugs being unsafe (but compact)), there's rarely any data or science presented to to show why (for example) construction workers in Australia wearing shorts is an unacceptable risk compared to them wearing long pants in the US. It's fascinating watching people from around the world exchanging notes and being baffled to the point of incomprehension that someone would install a split AC instead of central AC in a home, and insist that it's impossible and no one sells them (or vice versa), despite google being a click away. I still remember fondly that one  goon house build thread where half the thread threw a collective fit over a roof access ladder that was permanently installed, as is the standard in Finland. 
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Loezi posted:I still remember fondly that one What's the alternative?
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Loezi posted:I still remember fondly that one Hey that was me and I didn't think there was much fussing over my pool ladder, now the wallpaper... That got people riled up.
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His Divine Shadow posted:Hey that was me and I didn't think there was much fussing over my pool ladder, now the wallpaper... That got people riled up. I think it was just me, because I have good taste. e: Oh wait Americans have some really weird notions about the existence of wallpaper, regardless of pattern.
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tater_salad posted:More like AWORSTOS amirite? It would be ASworstos. I work in a construction related industry. Geotechnical and environmental drilling. I wear shorts all the time, except when I'm on a site where the overall contractor in charge of the job says they are not allowed. Railroad jobs for example. Or Big construction sites etc. Every now and then the Ministry of Labour will show up and every time I've asked the person if I'm allowed to wear shorts on a "construction site", as my sites, regardless of what is going on there are deemed to be construction sites. Thus far they've all told me that its up to whoever is in charge of the site to allow or not allow. Anecdotal story, yes, but in 17+ years, I've stabbed myself in the leg once.
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Yeah but how badly. "I've been at this job 25 years, and I've only had a leg cut off once!" 
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My Lovely Horse posted:Yeah but how badly. https://youtu.be/O8YfgxF3APY
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My Lovely Horse posted:Yeah but how badly. Any wound that would be significantly reduced by jeans isn't going to require stitches.
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Blue Footed Booby posted:Any wound that would be significantly reduced by jeans isn't going to require stitches. That's absolute bullshit. People like you are why there's a 0 on the big sign at work.
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https://twitter.com/WxKanost/status/1292875141777694722 Frank Gehry’s new project looking derivative
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Platystemon posted:https://twitter.com/WxKanost/status/1292875141777694722 
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3D Megadoodoo posted:That's absolute bullshit. People like you are why there's a 0 on the big sign at work. Slanderer posted:This thread and the OSHA thread have both revealed a bunch of trades that are done differently in America, the UK and Europe, and everyone insists they are doing it Correctly despite having maybe witnessed alternative techniques and standards once 20 years ago. With the exception of really obvious deficiencies (ring mains in the UK, US electrical plugs being unsafe (but compact)), there's rarely any data or science presented to to show why (for example) construction workers in Australia wearing shorts is an unacceptable risk compared to them wearing long pants in the US. It's fascinating watching people from around the world exchanging notes and being baffled to the point of incomprehension that someone would install a split AC instead of central AC in a home, and insist that it's impossible and no one sells them (or vice versa), despite google being a click away.
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Wait what? "An incident with a pigeon?" What the hell is that about?!
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Blue Footed Booby posted:Any wound that would be significantly reduced by jeans isn't going to require stitches. Beyond stitches, basically any kind of abrasion injury will be either delayed or eliminated by protective clothing. Likewise for contact burns. Accidentally back in to the generator exhaust with your bare leg and you're probably going to have a proper burn, where if your pants hit first it'll still hurt but you have some time to react before doing real damage. --- We can definitely debate the relative value of that level of protection versus worker comfort when working on hot climates, and I am 100% a "only wear long pants if I really have to" person, but there is no doubt that durable clothing can significantly reduce the severity of a number of minor to moderate injuries compared to bare skin.
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I've put massive holes in good pairs of jeans just by brushing up against uncapped rebar ends. They protect against minor hazards at best.
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I wear heavy duck pants and get burn holes and sharp metal corners all the time. I could wear lighter stuff but I'd wind up getting burnt more. Shorts are for yard work.
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Agrinja posted:I wear heavy duck pants and get burn holes and sharp metal corners all the time. I could wear lighter stuff but I'd wind up getting burnt more. Shorts are for yard work. I worked in a factory where it was 100 degrees on the first floor and my job frequently took me to the second and third up on catwalks. The thermometer up there got close to 120 Shorts were the only way to go. I did get some small burns and cuts that jeans would have prevented, but aside from the maintenance folks, we pretty much all wore shorts. 12 hours in 100+ temps in long pants is insanity
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The Bloop posted:I worked in a factory where it was 100 degrees on the first floor and my job frequently took me to the second and third up on catwalks. The thermometer up there got close to 120 Get a battery powered ball chiller that attaches to your pants!
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Leviathan Song posted:They seem to be uses a lot in slab foundations with plumbing underneath. I honestly don't understand how you're supposed to replace the plumbing without razing the building. Well, in the case of my house, you tunnel under from the side and route new plumbing out and around the foundation instead:    The construction fail was that they used copper from the sink, washer, and AC drains, then joined them into cast iron. The cast iron cracked, the copper was paper thing on the bottom at the join, and we had no idea how far that extended. Might have been fine if the foot or so we had access through the hole in my foundation was replaced (which it was for temporary use, since we were in there), but I decided not to gamble. Elviscat posted:I think a lot of it is that older homes that are still standing tend to be better built, as all the lovely ones got torn down or massively remodeled. This is true for anything that is brought up as an example of "they built it better back then. No, they built *those particular ones* better back then. quote:Someone in AI had an in-slab sewer connection leak, solution is to jackhammer around it, it's very expensive. Hello! edit: you guys got me looking at steel toe tabis, but I've got giant (for Japanese) size US13 feet. So now I'm looking at Blaklader and Jobman work pants instead.... Darchangel fucked around with this message at 00:26 on Aug 14, 2020 |
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Methylethylaldehyde posted:Get a battery powered ball chiller that attaches to your pants! I loving wish Ice dipped neck wrap was the best bet
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The Bloop posted:I loving wish I read a thing written by someone who used to be a costumed performer in Disneyland parades (like, inside a giant Pluto costume). He said on real hot days, they'd wear these icepack vests which was really nice at first. Then ten minutes in, it's all melted and and you're wearing a sloshy, warm water vest with a half hour to go.
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I'm having my concrete patio taken out, and the good news is there's another concrete patio under my concrete patio.
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tater_salad posted:Xhibit.jpg That was my first thought
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