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Finished the Bill Cooper episodes, and the talk about how good the cover of Behold a Pale Horse is reminded me of how I once taught a class on conspiracy theories, and I went over Cooper briefly. At the end of the semester a student told me that she looked up Behold a Pale Horse after I mentioned it, liked the cover, bought it, and had started reading it. Not one of the better ends of the semester, though hopefully the class had sunk in enough that she didn't take it as the truth.
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I listened to Evans guesting on Michael Moore's podcast this afternoon. Lot of people in that episode's comments section arguing that Bellingcat is a CIA front.
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Jul 28, 2020 02:32
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If Robert is a fed stooge then maybe there’s hope for me after all.
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Jul 28, 2020 04:28
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I’ve seen that theory in CSPAM too, it’s kinda weird but having both one of the breeding grounds for the alt right movement and a CIA front originate on SA would be pretty hilarious who knows, maybe Lowtax’s next strategy for blaming other people for his lovely actions will be to claim that his exes are Russian agents
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Jul 28, 2020 05:03
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DC Murderverse posted:I’ve seen that theory in CSPAM too, it’s kinda weird but having both one of the breeding grounds for the alt right movement and a CIA front originate on SA would be pretty hilarious its because robert hates assad for being a monster and various parts of cspam/left dont.
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Jul 28, 2020 13:16
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Wanderer posted:I listened to Evans guesting on Michael Moore's podcast this afternoon. Lot of people in that episode's comments section arguing that Bellingcat is a CIA front. Bellingcat (and Brown Moses in particular) do a lot of Ukraine and Syria investigations that ruffle the "principled anti-imperialists" like Max Blumenthal, John Dolan and others in that section of the lefty Internet
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Jul 28, 2020 14:03
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Am I nuts, or did Robert kinda blame the Columbine massacre on the campus police not stopping Harris and Klebold? And then criticizes the presence of police on school campuses?
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Jul 28, 2020 14:40
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BigDave posted:Am I nuts, or did Robert kinda blame the Columbine massacre on the campus police not stopping Harris and Klebold? The regular police. They had been alerted to Harris and jlebold by a number of smaller cases and they kept ignoring it, until columbine.
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Jul 28, 2020 15:10
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rotinaj posted:The regular police. They had been alerted to Harris and jlebold by a number of smaller cases and they kept ignoring it, until columbine. Yeah, sounds like a bunch of other killers. A not insignificant number of serial killers could have been stopped by the police much sooner than they were, but the cops said "eh," and let them roam free a bit longer
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Jul 28, 2020 15:27
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Dapper_Swindler posted:its because robert hates assad for being a monster and various parts of cspam/left dont. It's more like he's very pro-intervention when it has a long history of making things worse. BTB is a pretty good podcast, but Robert has major blinders when it comes to Foreign Policy due to his background. Comes with listening to anyone really: you gotta know their biases and sutff
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Jul 28, 2020 15:35
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BigDave posted:Am I nuts, or did Robert kinda blame the Columbine massacre on the campus police not stopping Harris and Klebold? Even if this were accurate, I think that's a coherent complaint. Why have campus police if they go hide when there are actual dangerous situations where trained people could make a difference by intervening?
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Jul 28, 2020 15:43
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BigDave posted:Am I nuts, or did Robert kinda blame the Columbine massacre on the campus police not stopping Harris and Klebold? My bad, I got to this part of the episode. He’s more saying that the cops on campus do no good, so why increase the amount of them?
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Jul 28, 2020 16:38
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MonsieurChoc posted:It's more like he's very pro-intervention when it has a long history of making things worse. i really don't know how you could interpret robert as being "very pro-intervention". really hating assad and really believing that obama hosed up handling syria doesn't necessitate believing the us should invade and regime change. you can't be pro rojava and in favor of that, imho, since rojava would definitely disappear in any major intervention.
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Jul 29, 2020 02:26
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BigDave posted:Am I nuts, or did Robert kinda blame the Columbine massacre on the campus police not stopping Harris and Klebold? he was talking about the regular cops. Harris and klebold both had records and also once the shooting started the cops were on scene and basically sat outside the library. the school officer actually tried to do his job but got chased off by gun fire i believe.
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Mr. Fix It posted:i really don't know how you could interpret robert as being "very pro-intervention". really hating assad and really believing that obama hosed up handling syria doesn't necessitate believing the us should invade and regime change. you can't be pro rojava and in favor of that, imho, since rojava would definitely disappear in any major intervention. There at least one time he goes on a huge rant about people who thought they shouldn't have intervened, as well as comment he made about Venezuela and stuff. It's a thing. 
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Dapper_Swindler posted:he was talking about the regular cops. Harris and klebold both had records and also once the shooting started the cops were on scene and basically sat outside the library. the school officer actually tried to do his job but got chased off by gun fire i believe. i was making the point that the presence of SROs in schools is often justified by arguing that they will prevent mass shootings. the fact that there were armed officers in columbine who failed to prevent the violence is relevant because, in general, cops are pretty useless at stopping mass shootings i've spent enough time arguing with terminally online leftists about intervention, from Milosevic stans who will tell me that srebrinica never happened to folks who insist that assad never deployed chemical weapons it's cool if you don't think intervention is ever justified, i disagree with you in specific instances but it's a stance someone can make an evidence-based argument to support. when people straight-up deny acts of genocide and war crimes because they were committed to someone opposed to the U.S., i think those people are pieces of poo poo. i'm through arguing with them. if you think assad's chemical weapon attacks were faked or Ukraine shot down MH17 or whatever, you can suck my dick. edit: also the "you can suck my dick" was not directed at anyone in this thread, necessarily, but was more aimed at the set on twitter who spend hours finding reasons to argue that shellshocked syrian children are really crisis actors or what-the-gently caress-ever
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GunFondler42069 posted:i was making the point that the presence of SROs in schools is often justified by arguing that they will prevent mass shootings. the fact that there were armed officers in columbine who failed to prevent the violence is relevant because, in general, cops are pretty useless at stopping mass shootings makes sense. i watched an amature but very good documentary about stoneman Douglass and they went a bit into how the deputy didnt do his job but its also clear that neither did the sheriffs department when they arrived either. i think there is like 2 occasions where cops have stopped a mass shooting in progress and they were both off duty and it was right as the shooter walked in or started shooting. but yeah, some cops standing around schools wont stop shootings. also yeah same on the intervention stuff. Dapper_Swindler fucked around with this message at 23:13 on Jul 29, 2020 |
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yeah I'm definitely not arguing "cops should do a better job of protecting schools" and more saying "cops are virtually incapable of protecting people and maybe we shouldn't have them"
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GunFondler42069 posted:yeah I'm definitely not arguing "cops should do a better job of protecting schools" and more saying "cops are virtually incapable of protecting people and maybe we shouldn't have them" good point. wasnt trying to start anything. anyway i was thinking of school murder monsters and i think you should cover andrew Kehoe someday. dudes the ultimate NIMBY nutjob, blew up a school and than sucide bombed the survivors because he was pissed that his tax money went toward the school. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B085CHTTJ6 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Kehoe Dapper_Swindler fucked around with this message at 23:17 on Jul 29, 2020 |
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I haven't yet listened to the latest episode, but oooh boy did Robert choose a doozy of a bastard. I did notice something missing from the footnotes. If anyone is interested in reading a whole lot more, have a look at the reports from the truth and reconcilliation commission. http://nctr.ca/reports.php
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The episode is absolutely worth a depressing as all get out listen to! The bit about the nutritional studies reminds me of the history behind Lördagsgodis/Saturday Candy in Sweden. So in short, Swedish teeth were getting totally hosed up, and the (then) National Swedish Board of Health conducted a study to see if eating sweets and carbs and cavities were related. Spoiler alert! They absolutely are. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vipeholm_experiments?wprov=sfti1 posted:
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Or like the Quaker Oats radiation study. Basically Quaker Oats funded an MIT study on how the body absorbs radiation, which it did by creating a bogus "science club" at a school for mentally handicapped boys and secretly feeding them oatmeal that had been laced with radioactive materials. The crazy thing is that Quaker Oats did this to get good promotion at a time when they were competing against Cream of Wheat, and this is part of the reason why Quakers Oats became so dominant and Cream of Wheat faded.
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teen witch posted:The episode is absolutely worth a depressing as all get out listen to! The bit about the nutritional studies reminds me of the history behind Lördagsgodis/Saturday Candy in Sweden. I intend to finish listening, I just chimed in prematurely. I've listened to a bit of it so far, and Robert absolutely nails the summary of what Canada is, and how we've gone about developing our modern aparthied state via slow, quiet genocide. I feel a large amount of shame at what my people have done, and an equal amount of rage for the large contingent of Canadians who shrug this off with the "what's the Indians' problem?" attitude. It's a tough listen, but I'm greatful this story is being told to a wider audience. You would probably find agreement with the summary in the D&D Canpol thread. Eta: got 20min left, and lol, are people in other countries getting ads? Because, ain't nobody buying ads in the version I got from google in Canada. B33rChiller fucked around with this message at 04:24 on Aug 14, 2020 |
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Chairman Capone posted:Or like the Quaker Oats radiation study. Basically Quaker Oats funded an MIT study on how the body absorbs radiation, which it did by creating a bogus "science club" at a school for mentally handicapped boys and secretly feeding them oatmeal that had been laced with radioactive materials. The crazy thing is that Quaker Oats did this to get good promotion at a time when they were competing against Cream of Wheat, and this is part of the reason why Quakers Oats became so dominant and Cream of Wheat faded. So they ran a radiation experiment...to advertise oats? 
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teen witch posted:The episode is absolutely worth a depressing as all get out listen to! The bit about the nutritional studies reminds me of the history behind Lördagsgodis/Saturday Candy in Sweden. I skimmed the first part then got excited that there was a BtB about Swedish candy
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Don't milkshake duck Swedish Fish please.
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I think all the racist Swedish candy has been discontinued, you might be safe
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B33rChiller posted:Eta: got 20min left, and lol, are people in other countries getting ads? Because, ain't nobody buying ads in the version I got from google in Canada. I'm in Japan and I exclusively get ads for I Heart Radio shows, including, not infrequently, Behind the Bastards.
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Snowy posted:I think all the racist Swedish candy has been discontinued, you might be safe While I can’t think of any candy offhand, there are definitely racist foodstuff in Sweden.
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Rochallor posted:I'm in Japan and I exclusively get ads for I Heart Radio shows, including, not infrequently, Behind the Bastards. ditto and ditto
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The first ad for me is almost always Robert trying to sell me ExpressVPN.
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Rochallor posted:I'm in Japan and I exclusively get ads for I Heart Radio shows, including, not infrequently, Behind the Bastards. For a while I thought it was a long con joke that the ad breaks for products and services contained no ads for products or services, just other podcasts.
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Testekill posted:The first ad for me is almost always Robert trying to sell me ExpressVPN. I get the ad where Robert is pitching a service that allows you to text your therapist as many times as you want, which seems like a really bad deal for the therapists, and maybe not the most healthy thing
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Aug 17, 2020 21:26
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I usually get ads. Other podcasts, robert recorded selling home security systems, and therapy, etc. It's just the episode on residential schools had the ad break music, followed immediately by the return from ads music.
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B33rChiller posted:I usually get ads. Other podcasts, robert recorded selling home security systems, and therapy, etc. It's just the episode on residential schools had the ad break music, followed immediately by the return from ads music. Oh I had six months of some ads just not playing which was a blessing, but then I’d also have moments in the latter third of an episode where it plays, skips back 20 or so seconds and then continues to play regularly
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You don't know true suffering until you've gotten the "he never passes the rock" Geico ad twice in a row during the same break.
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I'm sure Dani Shapiro is a lovely person but my God, did I get sick of hearing her voice from the Family Secrets ad. Glad that seems to have subsided.
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Generic American posted:You don't know true suffering until you've gotten the "he never passes the rock" Geico ad twice in a row during the same break. God I hated that one.
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