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I don't think Gog actually needs to do anything at this point in terms of influencing the crowd - with the possible exception of showing replays from all different angles on the big screens at the stadium and over the glyphosphere. She's already moved all her pieces into position in creating fertile soil for when this scenario happens. Moreover, having the worms come out would give Solomon an outside influence to rally support against. Best for the crowd to be good, honest Rayubans who are hella psyched they got to see their God Emperor punched in his big, dumb face.
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Why would they reject Solomon? He's been their god and king for 3000 years. They just like a good fight.
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wiegieman posted:They just like a good fight. They'd never know that him stooping so low would mean White Chain won even harder than it already seems, right?
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wiegieman posted:Why would they reject Solomon? He's been their god and king for 3000 years. They just like a good fight. If he were to kill White Chain right now that would come off really bad, and possibly shake their faith in him.
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maswastaken posted:This - and Solomon can totally spin this. White Chain landed her hit (undeniable) and that exact moment (because time froze), she did get her wish (as he'll claim it to be) granted. Thus it's proof that he must actually be a god because how else was it supposed to happen? He can't, because they've all have now seen proof that he can be injured. And if he can be injured, he can be toppled or killed. The Celestial Empire has fundamentally stood on the Paternum being a perfect diamond, and that has now been shattered with a mere bruise.
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maswastaken posted:This - and Solomon can totally spin this. White Chain landed her hit (undeniable) and that exact moment (because time froze), she did get her wish (as he'll claim it to be) granted. Thus it's proof that he must actually be a god because how else was it supposed to happen? Solly might be able to spin this but I think that's what we're about to see - can Solomon or Gog spin this better. Gog isn't just bluntly saying 'the truth,' she's using her position and voice to try to swing things her way and now we're into a real politics-off. Which Solomon is probably not very well prepared for: his whole ruling philosophy works on the premise that he, and he alone, has a voice in the big stuff. He never faces anybody who is remotely a peer, and never has to broker or cajole or convince. As Solmon says: "I am my own justification. So say I. This is the law of kings. Either make it your own - or know your place." The only form of debate that he considers legitimate is raw, naked force, and he has so far relied on it near wholly for everything. Think about the meeting with the other demiurges when even they ask "why should we listen to you" and his argument is to just blow up the table. To Solomon, that's the only proof that matters. And it's elegant, but he doesn't only want to be the strongest guy, he wants Rayuba and his people to be healthy and happy and well-cared for (if not individually, at least collectively). He has some options here, but Gog is baiting him into rationalizing, publicly, why it's still best to have him personally be the sole ruler of the empire, challenged only on his own terms in battle, and I think he's not well prepared for it. Of course he could lose his main source of legitimacy, and try to recapture it through brutal, daily force and execute dissidents everywhere (not like he couldn't), but that would lose him his empire at a deeper level. Which I think is what WC has been trying to demonstrate this chapter.
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Hostile V posted:...is Gog-Agog a clown because traditionally a jester was the only one allowed to say the quiet parts loud and criticize in a king's court. Sometimes the sentient mass of worms in the shape of a clown is just a sentient mass of worms who appreciates the clown aesthetic
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Hostile V posted:...is Gog-Agog a clown because traditionally a jester was the only one allowed to say the quiet parts loud and criticize in a king's court. Nobody takes a clown seriously. Or, more importantly; considers them a threat. If all you see is the pitiful clown, you're forgetting that clown is a sentient hive-mind of worms spanning hundreds of thousands of worlds. And that's just the incarnations she lets people see, nevermind her innumerable wormed hosts acting as her eyes, ears, and agents.
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Rotten Red Rod posted:The MS Paint Adventure forums, but yes: https://web.archive.org/web/2016030...fruity-webcomic Ha! Abaddon straight up spelling the word "is" as "Ys" in version 1.0 kind of gives away the game.
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Schwarzwald posted:Ha! Abaddon straight up spelling the word "is" as "Ys" in version 1.0 kind of gives away the game. eh he replaced "i" with "y" all over the place there so it just comes off as being silly more than giving anything away
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Schwarzwald posted:Ha! Abaddon straight up spelling the word "is" as "Ys" in version 1.0 kind of gives away the game. AL-YIS-UN = "all is one"?  e/ although saying that, it was obvious enough when YIS is the goddess of all that is and UN is the god of all that is not. Renaissance Robot fucked around with this message at 19:36 on Aug 14, 2020 |
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Renaissance Robot posted:AL-YIS-UN = "all is one"? AL YIS UN, UN YIS AL
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Bilirubin posted:Thread's starting to read like a Dr Bronner's soap label Good.
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Posted in the ring of power discord - sound ofc required https://i.imgur.com/u83eEh7.mp4
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Technology was a mistake.
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I'll be damned. Solomon conceding victory is a swerve alright.
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The "mass" Gog refers to isn't the audience, or the population of Rayuba. She's about to go World-Devourer, I'm calling it.
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pseudorandom name posted:OK, I didn't expect him to declare her the victor. Captain Oblivious posted:I'll be damned. Solomon conceding victory is a swerve alright. It was his only smart move left, because even Solomon can read the room. Now he maintains his dignity, and instead of rioting they're gonna go out party hard enough to do riot-level damage for just a night. Also how good is that first panel, goddamn  .
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Captain Oblivious posted:I'll be damned. Solomon conceding victory is a swerve alright. I'm waiting for him to actually say it because this can still go a couple different ways.
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Neddy Seagoon posted:Also how good is that first panel, goddamn It's really, amazingly good. The ominous vibe nearly pours off the panel.
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Malpais Legate posted:The "mass" Gog refers to isn't the audience, or the population of Rayuba. The "mass" is absolutely Gog. No devouring though, at least not this book. We're supposed to be wrapping things up now. Also lol at one of the first twitter responses. Oh no nips this is so uncomfortable.
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Malpais Legate posted:The "mass" Gog refers to isn't the audience, or the population of Rayuba. I doubt it. This is her victory: Seeing Solomon submit to his own people, after all his grandstanding. This is a far greater loss for him than if he were turned into jelly by White Chain, or wormed. In this moment, he realized that he doesn't get to decide who won this fight, the audience does. Even the greatest emperor in the whole universe is only ruling by consent of the governed, in the end. The worms are
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Thank you for also being an extra bitch, Gog-Agog. I would join your worm church (or "wurch") to listen to you deliver raw-rear end lines like that on a weekly basis.
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Yeah gog is talking about the people of the empire and everyone else everywhere watching this on inter dimensional cable. Gog knows the power of numbers better than anyone
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I hadn't thought the audience was wormed, but that first panel is loving ominous, as is Gog's ranting. I'm hoping the audience isn't wormed, though watching Swolemon do a take backsies because the audience wasn't really against him would be a way for his pride to trip him up even after he's taken the first steps in the right direction.
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