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Devils Affricate
Jan 22, 2010
I guess you could say he's figured out where the true dough is

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Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler

Devils Affricate posted:

I guess you could say he's figured out where the true dough is

:vince:

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


Devils Affricate posted:

I guess you could say he's figured out where the true dough is

:frogout:

Dont Touch ME
Apr 1, 2018

Devils Affricate posted:

I guess you could say he's figured out where the true dough is

Holy poo poo :gizz:

ninjoatse.cx
Apr 9, 2005

Fun Shoe
https://www.pcmag.com/news/pro-china-propaganda-act-used-fake-followers-made-with-ai-generated-images

Graphics to further explanations on the page.

quote:


Pro-China Propaganda Act Used Fake Followers Made With AI-Generated Images
A pro-China propaganda campaign on social media has been creating fake followers with the help of AI-generated images of seemingly real, but fictitious people.



A pro-China propaganda campaign that’s been bashing the US on social media has been creating fake followers with the help of AI-generated images.

Since June, the campaign has been posting English-language videos critical of the Trump administration on Facebook, Twitter and YouTube, according to the research company Graphika, which has been tracking the group’s activities.

Graphika dubs the campaign “Spamouflage Dragon.” And like other propaganda activities, the pro-China group will use fake accounts to share and post comments on its content to help it gain wider circulation. However, Graphika noticed something odd with the profile photos belonging to these fake accounts: In some cases, the headshots appear to be the work of an AI program designed to create artificial human faces.

On first glance, the profile photos all look legitimate. But on closer examination, Graphika spotted strange commonalities in the images, such as the blurred backgrounds, and how the eyeball positions in the profile photos all coincidentally matched up. The odd features indicate the photos were likely the product of a “generative adversarial network” or GAN, a machine learning technology adept at creating seemingly real, but ultimately fake human faces.

The GANs can generate a synthetic face by studying existing images of real people, and learning how to recreate the facial features into a new image. However, the results aren’t always perfect. The AI program often has trouble rendering ear rings and other objects around the fake person’s face. The backgrounds are also left vague.

Nevertheless, the technology has sparked fears about bad actors exploiting AI-created media to help them pump out disinformation over social media. For instance, a reverse image search can often reveal whether a user's profile photo is legit or has been repurposed from somewhere else. But the same can't be done for a freshly-generated photo made by an AI.

In the case of Spamouflage Dragon, the pro-China group used the AI-generated photos to create fake followers on Twitter and YouTube. However, the campaign itself was pretty shoddy, according to Graphika. “The videos were clumsily made, marked by language errors and awkward automated voice-overs,” the research company said in its report.

The computer-assisted text-to-voice recordings were so bad some videos pronounced the US as “us.” Other language errors include using headlines and subtitles that mentioned “Public blamed Trump sinaction,” and “very good at be mischievous.”

As a result, the videos failed to receive any engagement from real social media users. The campaign ran from June to early August, posting videos critical of President Trump’s ban on TikTok and his approach to COVID-19. However, the social media companies have since taken down the group’s videos and the affiliated user accounts.

Whether the Chinese government was behind the campaign remains unclear. However, US intelligence officials warned last week that foreign governments, including China, Russia and Iran, will try to sway US public opinion to influence the upcoming presidential election.

Graphika says it isn’t the first time the company has encountered a propaganda campaign incorporating AI-generated photos into their schemes. But the company warns: “Given the ease with which threat actors can now use publicly available services to generate fake profile pictures, this tactic is likely to become increasingly prevalent.”

Shumagorath
Jun 6, 2001
Are there samples available so we can make our own?

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

Why the gently caress would anyone need to make fake angry comments about how lovely the USA is on the internet?

No Pants
Dec 10, 2000

Shumagorath posted:

Are there samples available so we can make our own?

The StyleGAN2 repository has instructions and pretrained networks. It also has links to a bunch of sample output.

BrainDance
May 8, 2007

Disco all night long!

Shumagorath posted:

Are there samples available so we can make our own?

https://thispersondoesnotexist.com/

It's a lot more fun to sit there refreshing it than it should be.


https://thishorsedoesnotexist.com/
The horse one gets you wonkier monstrosities.

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

BrainDance posted:

https://thispersondoesnotexist.com/

It's a lot more fun to sit there refreshing it than it should be.


https://thishorsedoesnotexist.com/
The horse one gets you wonkier monstrosities.

That is drat creepy. You can see where it starts to gently caress up though.


Deki
May 12, 2008

It's Hammer Time!
I'm glad that person doesn't exist.

GotLag
Jul 17, 2005

食べちゃダメだよ

Mr Luxury Yacht posted:

I mean maybe at this moment although I'm not sure all those Syrian hospitals that got bombed by Russian jets would agree. But it's not like if the US vanished tomorrow, Russia would stay in the exact same state it is right now forever.
Isn't the US military also in Syria?

Budzilla
Oct 14, 2007

We can all learn from our past mistakes.

I find this more of a damnation of Australian foreign policy. PNG is almost a colony of Australia and we allow this to happen.

Dandywalken
Feb 11, 2014

GotLag posted:

Isn't the US military also in Syria?

Hmm good point hmmmmm

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler
Not very topical, and sort of out of left field, but would anyone care to translate these? The friend who had his wife disappear to China (earlier in the thread) found an old phone of hers and these were sent via wechat (along with some pretty explicit selfies) over the past two years. My wife refuses to look at them, on the grounds that it's an invasion of privacy, but I think it's some sort of superstition thing with her (acknowledge bad things, and they might happen?).



I "cleaned" them up in photoshop and tried a few image->text translation sites/apps, but no luck. He says he's "over it" but I think this is the final nail in the coffin he needs to finally move on with his life.

I'll take these down if they're too, "internet detective" or creepy.

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

Blistex posted:

Not very topical, and sort of out of left field, but would anyone care to translate these? The friend who had his wife disappear to China (earlier in the thread) found an old phone of hers and these were sent via wechat (along with some pretty explicit selfies) over the past two years. My wife refuses to look at them, on the grounds that it's an invasion of privacy, but I think it's some sort of superstition thing with her (acknowledge bad things, and they might happen?).



I "cleaned" them up in photoshop and tried a few image->text translation sites/apps, but no luck. He says he's "over it" but I think this is the final nail in the coffin he needs to finally move on with his life.

I'll take these down if they're too, "internet detective" or creepy.

Those are written on skin?

Did she end up taking money?

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler

MarcusSA posted:

Those are written on skin?

Yeah, he sent me some heavily cropped pics, but from his description and what was visible before further cropping and colour/brightness tweaking, they were pretty explicit.

MarcusSA posted:

Did she end up taking money?

She managed to sneak off with well over half their liquid assets, but considering he has a bought-and-paid-for house in Toronto, he came out ahead.

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

Blistex posted:

Yeah, he sent me some heavily cropped pics, but from his description and what was visible before further cropping and colour/brightness tweaking, they were pretty explicit.


She managed to sneak off with well over half their liquid assets, but considering he has a bought-and-paid-for house in Toronto, he came out ahead.

Yeah I remember her sneaking off and drat finding that stuff must be rough. What a kick in the dick

BrainDance
May 8, 2007

Disco all night long!

Blistex posted:

Not very topical, and sort of out of left field, but would anyone care to translate these? The friend who had his wife disappear to China (earlier in the thread) found an old phone of hers and these were sent via wechat (along with some pretty explicit selfies) over the past two years. My wife refuses to look at them, on the grounds that it's an invasion of privacy, but I think it's some sort of superstition thing with her (acknowledge bad things, and they might happen?).



I "cleaned" them up in photoshop and tried a few image->text translation sites/apps, but no luck. He says he's "over it" but I think this is the final nail in the coffin he needs to finally move on with his life.

I'll take these down if they're too, "internet detective" or creepy.

傻啊你, How stupid are you
升something公 (I cant read that middle character) 稀罕你,傻瓜 I need you, fool
打你 hit you. I dont know a non-literal meaning for that that fits here.

BrainDance fucked around with this message at 07:41 on Aug 15, 2020

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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BrainDance posted:

傻啊你, How stupid are you
升something公 (I cant read that middle character) 稀罕你,傻瓜 I need you, fool
打你 hit you. I dont know a non-literal meaning for that that fits here.

lol

Shumagorath
Jun 6, 2001
Leverage the explicit selfies to recover what she stole.

Malkina_
May 13, 2020

by Fluffdaddy
:rip:

An objective obituary:

https://twitter.com/profwolff/status/1294299491076431873?s=21

It can be summed up in this conversation I came across recently, which is not in the article above.

quote:

Isaac: Maybe the Luminous Path, but China knows that the Red Arrow are business owners, entrepreneurs, community leaders, and that they protect the city from outside influences.
JC Denton: You said 'outside influences.' What does China fear?

Isaac: China is the last sovereign country in the world. Authoritarian but willing - unlike U.N.-governed countries - to give its people the freedom to do what they want.
JC Denton: As long as they don’t break the law.

Isaac: Listen to me. This is real freedom, freedom to own property, make a profit, make your life. The West, so afraid of strong government, now has no government. Only financial power.
JC Denton: Our governments have limited power by design.

Isaac: Rhetoric--and you believe it! Don’t you know where those slogans come from?
JC Denton: I give up.

Isaac: Well-paid researchers - how do you say it? - 'think tanks,' funded by big businesses. What is that? A 'think tank'?
JC Denton: Hardly as sinister as a dictator, like China’s Premier.

Isaac: It’s privately-funded propaganda. The Trilateral Commission in the United States for instance.
JC Denton: The separation of powers acknowledges the petty ambitions of individuals; that’s its strength.

Isaac: A system organized around the weakest qualities of individuals will produce these same qualities in its leaders.
JC Denton: Perhaps certain qualities are an inseparable part of human nature.

Isaac: The mark of the educated man is the suppression of these qualities in favor of better ones. The same is true of civilization.


There was a famous Bulgarian communist who warned us about fascism 85 years ago:

quote:

"Fascism is not a form of state power "standing above both classes -- the proletariat and the bourgeoisie," as Otto Bauer, for instance, has asserted. It is not "the revolt of the petty bourgeoisie which has captured the machinery of the state," as the British Socialist Brailsford declares. No, fascism is not a power standing above class, nor government of the petty bourgeoisie or the lumpen-proletariat over finance capital. Fascism is the power of finance capital itself. It is the organization of terrorist vengeance against the working class and the revolutionary section of the peasantry and intelligentsia. In foreign policy, fascism is jingoism in its most brutal form, fomenting bestial hatred of other nations.... The development of fascism, and the fascist dictatorship itself, assume different forms in different countries, according to historical, social and economic conditions and to the national peculiarities, and the international position of the given country."

Malkina_ fucked around with this message at 12:49 on Aug 15, 2020

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler

Shumagorath posted:

Leverage the explicit selfies to recover what she stole.

He has had zero contact with her since she disappeared. So even if he wanted to commit extortion, he couldn't contact anyone she wouldn't want to see the pictures.

Shumagorath
Jun 6, 2001

Blistex posted:

He has had zero contact with her since she disappeared. So even if he wanted to commit extortion, he couldn't contact anyone she wouldn't want to see the pictures.
Copy the Me Sowing / Me Reaping tweet onto Weibo?

oohhboy
Jun 8, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Malkina_ posted:

:rip:
It can be summed up in this conversation I came across recently, which is not in the article above.

Hahha nice, but I didn't ask for this.

Things are bad and messy, not existential, well maybe for Trump it is. Things look worse than they are as we can see all of it. The frustrating thing is America is more than able to fix the vast majority of its problems, its not a question of resources.

China is disturbingly opaque, but we can safely infer more aggressive, asinine the positive stories are, more leaks, the worse things are. I wonder why there is this sudden push to not waste food as a virtue which runs completely in the opposite direction to cultural expectations. There are multiple factors pointing to food insecurity. We have seen this before else where like the stock markets. Hmmm.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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lol we're at like 4 decades of idiots saying this poo poo and counting

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
---------------------------->

oohhboy posted:

I wonder why there is this sudden push to not waste food as a virtue which runs completely in the opposite direction to cultural expectations. There are multiple factors pointing to food insecurity. We have seen this before else where like the stock markets. Hmmm.

It's okay the CCP made sure to diplomatically alienate all of the world's largest agricultural producers

looking forward to when the PRC reports positive GDP growth in 2020 and everyone believes them

Nessus
Dec 22, 2003

After a Speaker vote, you may be entitled to a valuable coupon or voucher!



MarcusSA posted:

That is drat creepy. You can see where it starts to gently caress up though.


That guy's gonna dance all night.


Baronjutter posted:

Why the gently caress would anyone need to make fake angry comments about how lovely the USA is on the internet?
You have to give the millions of people who want to become slogan repeaters a slogan to repeat or else they'll find someone else's!

Nam Taf
Jun 25, 2005

I am Fat Man, hear me roar!

Budzilla posted:

I find this more of a damnation of Australian foreign policy. PNG is almost a colony of Australia and we allow this to happen.

We’ve dropped the ball in a big way. It’s astounding how little we’ve worked to defend our geopolitical power in our backyard. We could’ve supported all of the pacific islands with aid to directly counter Chinese interests but we’ve pissed away whatever home ground advantage we had through inaction and forcing them to look elsewhere.

BrainDance
May 8, 2007

Disco all night long!

Blistex posted:

He has had zero contact with her since she disappeared. So even if he wanted to commit extortion, he couldn't contact anyone she wouldn't want to see the pictures.

He's a lot more stoic than I would be about this.

Because I'm ridiculously immature I'd be tracking that poo poo down. I'm not gonna guess at your friends relationship but Christ, kinda seems like he just paid for a very expensive life upgrade not having her around.

BrigadierSensible
Feb 16, 2012

I've got a pocket full of cheese🧀, and a garden full of trees🌴.

Nam Taf posted:

We’ve dropped the ball in a big way. It’s astounding how little we’ve worked to defend our geopolitical power in our backyard. We could’ve supported all of the pacific islands with aid to directly counter Chinese interests but we’ve pissed away whatever home ground advantage we had through inaction and forcing them to look elsewhere.

Australia's foreign policy, and has been since Howard is "We are friends with America. America is big and scary. So don't mess with us. Did I do good Mr American? Your boot is so tasty. Oh, by the way reffos out."

Even now, ScoMo's push for an independent inquiry or whatever into COVID-19, that is causing so much "hurt feelings", is basically a way to follow behind and suck up to the US.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Being a close US ally does not equate to "licking boot." If anything Australia was rather flippant regarding China from an American perspective.

Nam Taf
Jun 25, 2005

I am Fat Man, hear me roar!

The worst part is that since the US is basically imploding and won’t be paying any attention to foreign policy, we’re hiding behind a wet tissue.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
---------------------------->

Nam Taf posted:

The worst part is that since the US is basically imploding and won’t be paying any attention to foreign policy, we’re hiding behind a wet tissue.

This is a pretty big misreading of the situation. The US is a clusterfuck domestically and Trump is a bad diplomat but US hard power is fine and isn't going anywhere.

Squalid
Nov 4, 2008

related to the previous post, this tweet is from yesterday:

https://twitter.com/duandang/status/1294485837862723585

Nam Taf
Jun 25, 2005

I am Fat Man, hear me roar!

Fojar38 posted:

This is a pretty big misreading of the situation. The US is a clusterfuck domestically and Trump is a bad diplomat but US hard power is fine and isn't going anywhere.
Eh, my read of it is that whilst the gears are still turning there (and won’t stop no matter who is in charge), the ability for the US to shape public discourse about an issue is somewhat paralysed. What’s already underway will stay in place, but I don’t see the US being a leader in the same capacity as previously.

The executive has an outsize role in US politics from a public perspective. Especially overseas, you rarely hear about what the Congress is doing, it’s pretty much only ever Trump. Given he is clearly just flailing around trying to do whatever he can to increase his re-electability, I don’t see the US (through him) being able to provide a consistent narrative that will unite countries in an effort to push back.

Sure, the gears of the US foreign relations will continue to turn but that’s not the same as a rallying call of leadership that I think’s necessary for dealing with this.

I’ll concede I phrased it fairly poorly and made it sound like the US is worthless diplomatically. They’re absolutely not, but I don’t think they’re currently doing a great deal of leadership either.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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The upshot is that China is an even worse clusterfuck domestically and Xi is a worse diplomat than Trump.

WarpedNaba
Feb 8, 2012

Being social makes me swell!
Gonna second on that. Even the tinfoils over here aren't all for participating in sinic irrumatio - a far cry from what it used to be like a decade ago when the propaganda was relatively new.

Haramstufe Rot
Jun 24, 2016

Exercise in how "I have nothing to hide" of tankies is, well, just do a rewatch of laowhy on youtube.

You know, pro China mostly, fun bike and travel videos, not really having a problem with the "system" - just a foreigner doing harmless things.
[time passes]
Now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7CPqROtanA
Guy with breaking voice sitting, completely paranoid and separated from family, in a HK park, reporting how he just made it across the border thanks to some lazy border office because he is actually being looked for in China by the military for trumped up charged of illegal journalism because he interviewed someone years back. And his friend is missing.

Like, I feel sorry for this dude but also lmao.

The whole thang is an immersive experience of why fascism is bad for you even if you aren't even fighting against the CCP.


Someone should make like a supercut education video about this. Show it to tankies.
"Am I safe in a fascist state if I don't really want to be a problem for them?"

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Ugly In The Morning
Jul 1, 2010
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Haramstufe Rot posted:

Exercise in how "I have nothing to hide" of tankies is, well, just do a rewatch of laowhy on youtube.

You know, pro China mostly, fun bike and travel videos, not really having a problem with the "system" - just a foreigner doing harmless things.
[time passes]
Now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7CPqROtanA
Guy with breaking voice sitting, completely paranoid and separated from family, in a HK park, reporting how he just made it across the border thanks to some lazy border office because he is actually being looked for in China by the military for trumped up charged of illegal journalism because he interviewed someone years back. And his friend is missing.

Like, I feel sorry for this dude but also lmao.

The whole thang is an immersive experience of why fascism is bad for you even if you aren't even fighting against the CCP.


Someone should make like a supercut education video about this. Show it to tankies.
"Am I safe in a fascist state if I don't really want to be a problem for them?"

I can basically guarantee they would just call him a CIA plant and ignore it.

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