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SlothfulCobra
Mar 27, 2011

I know that wealthy people have the power to just move if they want to have more of a say in their government (or have the illusion of saying more by living in an autocracy that superficially agrees with them). Nobody likes living in an autocracy that is philosophically opposed to them. I don't really know how much that effects people who are just moving to take jobs where there's money though. I think the whole horrifying wildfires and constant droughts might make some people want to leave the state more.

What's weird is that for a long while, I've felt like California is kind of a black hole for the entire entertainment industry. Anybody who gets some amount of success eventually has to move to California to be in range of other people in the industry to collaborate. I think Austin has a whole thing where they're trying to become its own little LA, I dunno if they've hit a critical mass for that.

Other than that, maybe there's some element of just the branding and marketing of the state party so that all the conservatives (of which there are plenty in California) who move in are encouraged to be confident and boisterous while everybody else gets beaten down before they even get into the state so they're more likely to just not even try engaging with politics. The Texas Dems certainly don't project much confidence, and non-republican Texans are often all shy and ashamed of where they live.

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Democratic Pirate
Feb 17, 2010

The temperature reading on my dark car got up to 116 while waiting on a curbside meal pickup yesterday.

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

SlothfulCobra posted:

What's weird is that for a long while, I've felt like California is kind of a black hole for the entire entertainment industry. Anybody who gets some amount of success eventually has to move to California to be in range of other people in the industry to collaborate. I think Austin has a whole thing where they're trying to become its own little LA, I dunno if they've hit a critical mass for that.

Silicon Valley was like this until around 2010, when alternatives started to become viable.

Dameius
Apr 3, 2006

enraged_camel posted:

Silicon Valley was like this until around 2010, when alternatives started to become viable.

Austin and Atlanta and I think somewhere else are all trying to become viable filming alternatives. Atlanta at least seemed to have some limited amount of success in the before times.

Jiro
Jan 13, 2004

Dameius posted:

Austin and Atlanta and I think somewhere else are all trying to become viable filming alternatives. Atlanta at least seemed to have some limited amount of success in the before times.

You're thinking of Triangle Park out in North Carolina for the third. Nevermind was under the impression you were referring to tech based towns.

Jiro fucked around with this message at 20:36 on Aug 15, 2020

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

Jiro posted:

You're thinking of Triangle Park out in North Carolina for the third. Nevermind was under the impression you were referring to tech based towns.

i love this wiki page

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silicon_Prairie

FBS
Apr 27, 2015

The real fun of living wisely is that you get to be smug about it.

looks like we'll hit 10,000 state-reported COVID deaths by Tuesday

Shooting Blanks
Jun 6, 2007

Real bullets mess up how cool this thing looks.

-Blade



FBS posted:

looks like we'll hit 10,000 state-reported COVID deaths by Tuesday

According to Houston Chronicle, Texas hit 10k deaths yesterday. It's saying analysis by the paper though, not sure what data they're using beyond the state data.

Turrurrurrurrrrrrr
Dec 22, 2018

I hope this is "battle" enough for you, friend.

FBS posted:

looks like we'll hit 10,000 state-reported COVID deaths by Tuesday

With 1,500 of those from this week only. Nice.

Sir Tonk
Apr 18, 2006
Young Orc

i say swears online posted:

lol when a car is broken into in the parking lot we don't even call the cops anymore unless the person requests it. it happens like four times a week since the plague started

you call the cops to get a police report for insurance, but they dont even come out if its under whatever dollar amount is set in your area

Active Quasar
Feb 22, 2011

Mistaken Frisbee posted:

Royalty Twitter. Royalty Twitter, just media about royalty, is just so bizarre, as an American. They were bizarrely and unreasonably angry and cruel towards Princess Diana and now Meghan Markle. Like, the royal family doesn't meaningfully impact anyone's lives, but folks are so angry and racist. I get they're a big part of celebrity gossip, but you would think Meghan Markle had murdered the Queen the way they speak.

I left England to escape the monarchy but you bastards just had it all set up here waiting for me.

Royalty culture is something you should stay well clear of as it's creepy as hell. People keep pictures of the queen in their house and will toast to it. Christmas day has families loyally tuning in to hear the old lady ramble on about how wonderful England was this year and how all her loyal little subjects did just great.

Markle makes a perfect Emmanuel Goldstein for the narrative.

skipdogg
Nov 29, 2004
Resident SRT-4 Expert


I laughed so hard the first time I heard the term alamosexual, because it's so dead on for so many people. My neighboorhood has a lot of people that move here from the West Coast and expect Texas to be a certain way, they buy the boots, the hats, buy Yeti cups with Come and Take it stickers, the whole 9 yards. I've had one neighbor tell me Texas is different than what he thought is was going to be.

White Light
Dec 19, 2012

SlothfulCobra posted:

Other than that, maybe there's some element of just the branding and marketing of the state party so that all the conservatives (of which there are plenty in California) who move in are encouraged to be confident and boisterous while everybody else gets beaten down before they even get into the state so they're more likely to just not even try engaging with politics. The Texas Dems certainly don't project much confidence, and non-republican Texans are often all shy and ashamed of where they live.

And unless something radical changes it's going to stay that way for the next forty years. Really getting sick of being stuck in a state that has to be dragged kicking-and-screaming across the line via nation-wide legislation. A metric fuckton of boomers and some gen-Xers are still salty as gently caress over the equal marriage rights act that was passed in 2015, they're going to act the same way when police reform or marijuana legalization hits the scene in 2050.

The rest of us trapped in this political iron grip with no way out are gonna have to sit here and take it like chumps.

Edgar Allen Ho
Apr 3, 2017

by sebmojo

Parrotine posted:

And unless something radical changes it's going to stay that way for the next forty years. Really getting sick of being stuck in a state that has to be dragged kicking-and-screaming across the line via nation-wide legislation. A metric fuckton of boomers and some gen-Xers are still salty as gently caress over the equal marriage rights act that was passed in 2015, they're going to act the same way when police reform or marijuana legalization hits the scene in 2050.

The rest of us trapped in this political iron grip with no way out are gonna have to sit here and take it like chumps.

Texas is really the best and worst state and I hate/love it

biceps crimes
Apr 12, 2008


As a lifelong resident, the state has a cool name, cool shape, but I’ve had enough of the rest. I’ve also felt like this since I was a teenager, yet here I still am 20 years later.

SlothfulCobra
Mar 27, 2011

The only real solution is to somehow crack the two-party system wide open so that people may find a new political freedom, but that's not very likely to happen.

It's very very theoretically possible that the Republicans will gently caress up and circumstances will mobilize their opposition enough to disrupt the current autocratic single-party hegemony, and all of the people will come out of the woodwork and either it'll be the new awakening of politics in the state, or it'll all die down in a couple years as a new hegemony establishes itself.

Also the Come and Take it flag is about lying about the size of your dick and the Alamo was a bunch of idiot dumbasses who died because they were morons, and both of them have as much bearing on modern Texas as Alexander the Great has on gyros.

Number_6
Jul 23, 2006

BAN ALL GAS GUZZLERS

(except for mine)
Pillbug

Sinten posted:

As a lifelong resident, the state has a cool name, cool shape, but I’ve had enough of the rest. I’ve also felt like this since I was a teenager, yet here I still am 20 years later.

I'd really like to move to a California beach house with a nice view of the Pacific but I can't unless the price of houses like that drops to about $250,000.

Edgar Allen Ho
Apr 3, 2017

by sebmojo

Number_6 posted:

I'd really like to move to a California beach house with a nice view of the Pacific but I can't unless the price of houses like that drops to about $250,000.
East coast or Rockies friend never go to California

Yngwie Mangosteen
Aug 23, 2007

Edgar Allen Ho posted:

Texas is really the best and worst state and I hate/love it

Sinten posted:

As a lifelong resident, the state has a cool name, cool shape, but I’ve had enough of the rest. I’ve also felt like this since I was a teenager, yet here I still am 20 years later.

Ayup.

i say swears online
Mar 4, 2005

the plains are beautiful and nature will reclaim them someday inshallah

FBS
Apr 27, 2015

The real fun of living wisely is that you get to be smug about it.

skipdogg posted:

I laughed so hard the first time I heard the term alamosexual, because it's so dead on for so many people. My neighboorhood has a lot of people that move here from the West Coast and expect Texas to be a certain way, they buy the boots, the hats, buy Yeti cups with Come and Take it stickers, the whole 9 yards. I've had one neighbor tell me Texas is different than what he thought is was going to be.

The only people who can still pull off cowboy hats in public are hispanic dudes over 50

FBS
Apr 27, 2015

The real fun of living wisely is that you get to be smug about it.

Anyway I think I'm going to move to the Rust Belt this fall

Dameius
Apr 3, 2006
I've said it a million times, the best and worst thing about this state are the people.

Edgar Allen Ho
Apr 3, 2017

by sebmojo

FBS posted:

Anyway I think I'm going to move to the Rust Belt this fall

don't unless it's Canada

Sir Tonk
Apr 18, 2006
Young Orc

FBS posted:

Anyway I think I'm going to move to the Rust Belt this fall

I liked Portland when I was up there ten years ago, but gently caress all that actual cold weather.

Edgar Allen Ho
Apr 3, 2017

by sebmojo

Sir Tonk posted:

I liked Portland when I was up there ten years ago, but gently caress all that actual cold weather.

The weather is the only good part of the american rust belt (which Portland, Maine isn't a part of but)

Forseti
May 26, 2001
To the lovenasium!

SlothfulCobra posted:

The only real solution is to somehow crack the two-party system wide open so that people may find a new political freedom, but that's not very likely to happen.

It's very very theoretically possible that the Republicans will gently caress up and circumstances will mobilize their opposition enough to disrupt the current autocratic single-party hegemony, and all of the people will come out of the woodwork and either it'll be the new awakening of politics in the state, or it'll all die down in a couple years as a new hegemony establishes itself.

My biggest fear is that the most poo poo democrats and least poo poo republicans will form a giant centrist party and nobody else will have any power. Which great that the tea party psychos have no power but boo that the socialists have no power.

SlothfulCobra
Mar 27, 2011

Forseti posted:

My biggest fear is that the most poo poo democrats and least poo poo republicans will form a giant centrist party and nobody else will have any power. Which great that the tea party psychos have no power but boo that the socialists have no power.

That has been one of the game plans the Democrats have been trying for a while now.

The secret twist is that pure centrism is a meaningless political stance that's incredibly hard to muster enthusiasm for in your voter base, because there's only so much hollow promises about nebulous economic improvement while everything stays the same can do for you. Also at the end of the day, wherever you plant your centrist flag will actually include some political stances that will eventually become non-centrist. It'll either decay into conservatism as the world around it moves on or it'll accidentally adopt to changing circumstances.

The only time that that centrism can triumph on its own without piggybacking on something bigger than itself is when there's very obviously some radical movement that there's widespread resistance to, and even then it can be a longshot.

Edgar Allen Ho
Apr 3, 2017

by sebmojo
I'm really homesick for Texas atm y'all.

Doom Rooster
Sep 3, 2008

Pillbug

Edgar Allen Ho posted:

I'm really homesick for Texas atm y'all.

It’s 103 outside, in one of the worst states for the pandemic.

Where the hell are you right now? Abu Ghraib?

smoobles
Sep 4, 2014

Edgar Allen Ho posted:

I'm really homesick for Texas atm y'all.

Gimme ur address and I can freeze and send some genuine In N Out Burger from Dallas

Edgar Allen Ho
Apr 3, 2017

by sebmojo

Doom Rooster posted:

It’s 103 outside

Oh yeah gently caress that but send for me in november, maybe

Kunabomber
Oct 1, 2002


Pillbug

Forseti posted:

My biggest fear is that the most poo poo democrats and least poo poo republicans will form a giant centrist party and nobody else will have any power. Which great that the tea party psychos have no power but boo that the socialists have no power.

They tried this in the UK. It's not doing too well.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Democrats_%28UK%29?wprov=sfla1

Sab0921
Aug 2, 2004

This for my justices slingin' thangs, rib breakin' kings / Truck, necklace, robe, gavel and things / For the solicitors seein' them dissents spin and grin / That robe with the lace trim that win.
Yeah - there just aren't that many lawyers, doctors, finance bros, and management consultants in the world to make that viable.

Active Quasar
Feb 22, 2011

No, come on, there's an even funner failure in the UK
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Change_UK/

the "party" that managed to do a racism within the first hour of existing by referring to a demographic as being of "a funny tinge". The Lib Dems however managed to achieve all their aims in 2010 by stealing a massive number of votes from young people and handing them to the Tories.

Edgar Allen Ho
Apr 3, 2017

by sebmojo

smoobles posted:

Gimme ur address and I can freeze and send some genuine In N Out Burger from Dallas

please never mail that to me

Also do y'all know how hard it is to get some fuckin queso or proper tortillas around here?

Dameius
Apr 3, 2006
Whataburger has a new pico burger that is pretty good.

Yngwie Mangosteen
Aug 23, 2007

Edgar Allen Ho posted:

please never mail that to me

Also do y'all know how hard it is to get some fuckin queso or proper tortillas around here?

My parents moved to Kansas a few years ago, so I can imagine.

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

Dameius posted:

Whataburger has a new pico burger that is pretty good.

it's real good with jalapenos

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Shooting Blanks
Jun 6, 2007

Real bullets mess up how cool this thing looks.

-Blade



Edgar Allen Ho posted:

please never mail that to me

Also do y'all know how hard it is to get some fuckin queso or proper tortillas around here?

You can't buy Velveeta and Rotel?

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