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Endorph's one of those people who immediately assumes the worst when it comes to ambiguous wording because heaven forbid people not be an enemy, especially when it comes to those who are less NT. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Acerbatus posted:Did you not see the bolding?  I just read to the underlined portion and responded to that. I thought that was the highlighted question.
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Aug 14, 2020 18:24
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Vinny Possum posted:Probably a question that's been asked a billion times. Here's an article w/ an interview with Gengoroh Tagame talking about BL and gay manga: http://mangacomics.wpengine.com/tcaf-2015-gengoroh-tagame-talks-gay-manga-bara-bl-and-scanlation/ and it also names a few other manga artists that have had work published in English you might look for. He specifically talks about what Endorph also mentioned, how there's not really a clear divide between the two: quote:GENGOROH: Also a lot of the nomenclature just boils down to "what kind of magazine was this published in?" and is used for marketing purposes (another person in that article also talks about this a bit). So it's not always that helpful to think in terms of say, "BL is like this, but gay comics are like that" since tropes and conventions overlap a lot, as well as author and readership demographics. What might be more helpful is to figure out something like: I want to read stories that talk about X, or I don't like stories that do Y and then look for suggestions that fit that. I do want to mention Okura who has a couple of titles available in English, specifically That Blue Sky Feeling which is a school-setting romance and I Think My Son is Gay which is a slice-of-life from a supportive mom's POV
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Aug 14, 2020 18:28
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school zone never makes me laugh but its charming
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Aug 14, 2020 18:36
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Watermelon Daiquiri posted:Endorph's one of those people who immediately assumes the worst when it comes to ambiguous wording because heaven forbid people not be an enemy, especially when it comes to those who are less NT. 
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Aug 14, 2020 18:59
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dunno about you but assuming someone's super great and neurotypical for brownie points is probably more lovely than whatever crime you believe endorph committed
Aurora fucked around with this message at 19:29 on Aug 14, 2020 |
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Aug 14, 2020 19:03
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Watermelon Daiquiri posted:Endorph's one of those people who immediately assumes the worst when it comes to ambiguous wording because heaven forbid people not be an enemy, especially when it comes to those who are less NT. does nt mean neurotypical? because im autistic, shithead its incredibly loving exhausting how theres an entire genre of person who acts like im their evil stepmom or whatever just because i make post on a forum in a way they dont like and i literally went 'yeah thats fair it was just unfortunate wording' so i dont know why you're jumping into a conversation thats literally resolved just to get some weird own in, but you've made me intensely uncomfortable, so thanks for that? Endorph fucked around with this message at 19:27 on Aug 14, 2020 |
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Aug 14, 2020 19:23
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Everything Burrito posted:Here's an article w/ an interview with Gengoroh Tagame talking about BL and gay manga: http://mangacomics.wpengine.com/tcaf-2015-gengoroh-tagame-talks-gay-manga-bara-bl-and-scanlation/ and it also names a few other manga artists that have had work published in English you might look for. He specifically talks about what Endorph also mentioned, how there's not really a clear divide between the two:
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Aug 14, 2020 19:29
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Yeah, and mangaka tend to be pretty private so a lot of the time you just have no idea.
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Aug 14, 2020 19:58
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please inject this straight into my veins, tia
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Aug 14, 2020 20:28
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Dryad Office Lady Yuri https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/she_becomes_a_tree_ch01
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Aug 14, 2020 21:23
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Brainamp posted:Dryad Office Lady Yuri Looks like the mangaka read Kase-san and wanted to up the ante 
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Aug 14, 2020 21:34
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https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/with_her_who_likes_my_sister_ch02#1 With she who likes my sister updated.
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Aug 14, 2020 22:25
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Brainamp posted:Dryad Office Lady Yuri Can love bloom in the workplace? yes, yes it can
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Aug 14, 2020 22:40
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 time once again to get Useless
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Aug 16, 2020 06:06
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Kinda fallen off of that a bit but I hope izuma and iroha kiss by the end. (outlook unlikely)
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Aug 16, 2020 07:13
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Massive dump of Wotakoi just showed up on Mangadex. https://mangadex.org/chapter/996294/1
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Aug 16, 2020 09:13
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Acerbatus posted:Kinda fallen off of that a bit but I hope izuma and iroha kiss by the end. I think it is fairly likely.
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Aug 16, 2020 09:20
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i say someone in the 90s for percentage it is likely to happen
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Aug 16, 2020 10:47
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I’d love a Wotakoi spinoff off just Nao & Kou hanging out, they are very cute together imho E: I searched Wotakoi on twitter and the first hit is an ANN post saying the next volume of the manga included a ova focusing on the two Lube Enthusiast fucked around with this message at 11:39 on Aug 16, 2020 |
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Aug 16, 2020 11:06
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Endorph posted:oh im sure, just uhhh, weird wording Yeah, basically. Sorry about that. As I understand and have experienced it (and I might be wrong), yuri tends to be couched in typical manga tropes and its own structures and expectations, whereas I tend to prefer works that break the mold or at least do something new and interesting. Bonus points if its autobiographical. I also understand that yuri isn’t really representative of WLW in the real world, at least not the majority of it. The stuff that is is great and I would like more opportunities to see more down-to-earth depictions and situations. Pollyanna fucked around with this message at 17:15 on Aug 16, 2020 |
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Aug 16, 2020 17:11
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i mean yuri is no less representative of real-world relationships than the romance genre as a whole is of relationships in general. there's a discussion to be had about common yuri genre tropes and embellishments and why that would lead some stories about lesbian relationships to preferring using a different descriptor but overall i don't think it's fair to blanket so much of it like that. ultimately it's still media that lots of lesbians both create and relate to
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Aug 16, 2020 17:20
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That’s fair. I guess it’s not about the genre itself. I still enjoy it, as I would any other romance genre.
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Aug 16, 2020 18:35
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Not gonna lie: My favorite revelation concerning "stock shoujo/romance" clichés was Nozaki-kun saying "Uh, yeah, unless the bike accomodates for it, that whole thing with the Romantic Bike Ride is Illegal and not kosher anymore".
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Aug 16, 2020 18:42
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Pollyanna posted:Yeah, basically. Sorry about that. As I understand and have experienced it (and I might be wrong), yuri tends to be couched in typical manga tropes and its own structures and expectations, whereas I tend to prefer works that break the mold or at least do something new and interesting. Bonus points if its autobiographical.
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Aug 16, 2020 20:02
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it's pretty much pointless to view these kinds of things under a blanket because in reality all it comes down to is personal taste. when you start judging something's status as a true lgbt story under arbitrary metrics things just start getting kind of absurd, like you're trying to grade things on an invisible, undefinable spectrum
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Aug 16, 2020 20:54
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Lube Enthusiast posted:I’d love a Wotakoi spinoff off just Nao & Kou hanging out, they are very cute together imho They are my favorite pairing in the series and good on Yokishi trying to support them.
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Aug 16, 2020 21:10
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LGBT manga is the Harada comic where a bigshot guy at a company gets transferred out to the country in disgrace because he was discovered getting pegged by the president's daughter, and meets a layabout dude who's also really into pegging, and because there's no women to peg them they get drunk and gently caress eachother in the rear end also Jealousy by Scarlet Beriko
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Aug 16, 2020 22:53
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DisDisDis posted:LGBT manga is the Harada comic where a bigshot guy at a company gets transferred out to the country in disgrace because he was discovered getting pegged by the president's daughter, and meets a layabout dude who's also really into pegging, and because there's no women to peg them they get drunk and gently caress eachother in the rear end
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Aug 16, 2020 22:59
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IIRC that's Tamamusi, sso now you know
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Aug 16, 2020 23:02
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DisDisDis posted:IIRC that's Tamamusi, sso now you know Wow..
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Aug 16, 2020 23:46
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tamamusi is one of the greatest lesbian manga authors ever just for doing a manga with a panel where two women are lying on a bed and one, as she's preparing to shove her face in the other's pussy, is like "Just let me know if you're tired of me, okay? I don't like messy relationships. I'm gonna lick you now."
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Aug 16, 2020 23:49
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Wark Say posted:Not gonna lie: My favorite revelation concerning "stock shoujo/romance" clichés was Nozaki-kun saying "Uh, yeah, unless the bike accomodates for it, that whole thing with the Romantic Bike Ride is Illegal and not kosher anymore". I'm just surprised that bike pegs never caught on apparently. I loved those things as a kid
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Aug 17, 2020 00:04
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Honestly I'm trying to think of a single Yuri or even, like, yuri-y SoL piece I've watched/read that is definitely made by a dude and the only one I can think of is New Game. Certainly all the really popular ones I can think of - Nakatani, Saburouta, Canno, Hagino, Hiromi Takashima, etc - are women.
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Aug 17, 2020 00:14
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ZeusCannon posted:I'm just surprised that bike pegs never caught on apparently. I loved those things as a kid Or, as promptly explained by this goofy non-chart 
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Aug 17, 2020 00:28
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the only popular modern yuri thing i can think of thats by a dude is virgins' empire, and thats nearly ten years old and didnt even really start as a yuri series, it just grew into being that
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Aug 17, 2020 01:00
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Endorph posted:i forget who drew it but ill never forget the autobiographical oneshot some yuri manga artist drew where she describes seeing two of her classmates at an all girls school kissing backstage during a play they were putting on and how it completely changed her life and made her realize she could do that too and made her awaken to her sexuality and her desire to make lesbian art and then the manga ends with her relating this to them at a class reunion fifteen years later and they both reply 'wait, you're a dyke? weird.' https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/i_saw_some_yuri
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Aug 17, 2020 01:21
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a few yuri works by male authors that come to mind are that the prism/vampeerz mangaka is a guy, right? and the adachi and shimamura ln author is too
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Aug 17, 2020 01:33
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the final runaway with me https://mangadex.org/chapter/997759/1 it made me cry
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Aug 17, 2020 04:01
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I'm bad at making lists of my top manga but that is definitely one of them that ending was absolutely beautiful
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