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ded posted:crabdad first mcpon from the reserves Would a reservist MCPON be considered ADOS or...?
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Aug 15, 2020 02:11
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Crabdad has broken the Navy and it owns.
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Aug 15, 2020 02:21
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:Crabdad has broken the Navy and it owns. Seriously, when someone figures it out they're either going to send an assassin or make him a recruiter.
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Aug 15, 2020 02:33
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Godholio posted:Seriously, when someone figures it out they're either going to send an assassin or make him a recruiter. I tell my Marines stories about my reservist Navy buddy who somehow hits the jackpot on everything he does.
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Aug 15, 2020 04:50
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McNally posted:Would a reservist MCPON be considered ADOS or...? American Descendants of Slavery what
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Aug 15, 2020 06:14
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Godholio posted:Seriously, when someone figures it out they're either going to send an assassin or make him a recruiter. Oh god I would have to go down to E5 to be a recruiter so.... shucks I get I missed that bullet. orange juche posted:You've escaped from the skate-est rank in the Navy though sadly enough, now you're actually going to be expected to do poo poo. I fear this is the truth. However I really do get something out of helping new arrivals to my unit. Getting dumped unceremoniously into a NOSC then a unit is a very lovely experience. I may not be a great or even good Navy IT but if I can assist newcomers I'll feel fine about this advancement. I've had some great E6s in my last 3 units that just so happened to be my last three evals really pull for me and I hope to pay it forward someday soon. So my original plan of not bothering to mobilize until I was 1rst class has come to fruition. Now I got a couple years to focus on getting a really good mobilization to a command were I can actually do my job instead of send requests to a civilian to fix everything because we don't have any permissions.
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Aug 15, 2020 06:48
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LingcodKilla posted:So my original plan of not bothering to mobilize until I was 1rst class has come to fruition. Now I got a couple years to focus on getting a really good mobilization to a command were I can actually do my job instead of send requests to a civilian to fix everything because we don't have any permissions. If they have a MOB still to RSHQ/USFOR-A in Kabul as an IT1 take it. The guy that I was there in 16-17 was a VA IT govvie who actually enjoyed just doing basic help desk lvl1 compared to his actual GS job due to the simpleness of it
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Aug 15, 2020 06:52
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ded posted:American Descendants of Slavery Active Duty for Operational Support.
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Aug 15, 2020 07:08
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ded posted:American Descendants of Slavery I thought it was Actively Desecrating Other Sailors.
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Aug 15, 2020 17:47
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LingcodKilla posted:Oh god I would have to go down to E5 to be a recruiter so.... shucks I get I missed that bullet. Haha there are plenty of e6 recruiting billets friend. Not to mention those are typically more of a suggestion.
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Aug 15, 2020 18:29
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Navy Remote Maintenance I dont understand why the 'Machinery Space Laptops' aren't replaced with cell phones or tablets and why people are carrying portable servers around.
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Aug 16, 2020 19:40
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It looks like that's more of a developmental prototype that someone fast-tracked, but honestly getting connectivity between systems anywhere in the navy is always a massive pain in the rear end, so hauling around the server may legitimately be the best solution. I had $25,000 worth of Samsung tablets sitting in a box under my desk because "we're going to paperless flight pubs" but nobody bothered to provide any support for them or figure out a way to actually load products onto them, because they're not compatible with NMCI and can't connect to classified mission planning systems.
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Aug 16, 2020 19:54
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Wingnut Ninja posted:It looks like that's more of a developmental prototype that someone fast-tracked, but honestly getting connectivity between systems anywhere in the navy is always a massive pain in the rear end, so hauling around the server may legitimately be the best solution. Not my desk, but we had literally the same scenario at Fallon.
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Aug 16, 2020 20:11
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Has anyone seen any literature on this phenomena of how hard it is to actually make these systems work in the dod cyber beauracracy?
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Aug 16, 2020 20:55
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piL posted:Has anyone seen any literature on this phenomena of how hard it is to actually make these systems work in the dod cyber beauracracy? GAO type reports can sometimes - enlighten your world, but my assumption is anything current is going to be FOUO or higher. There have been case studies on various USG IT projects that have gone off the rails. This one in particular has some good reports. https://www.infoworld.com/article/2672020/anatomy-of-an-it-disaster--how-the-fbi-blew-it.html
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Aug 16, 2020 21:10
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piL posted:Has anyone seen any literature on this phenomena of how hard it is to actually make these systems work in the dod cyber beauracracy? The ATO process is absolute insanity.
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Aug 16, 2020 22:53
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At least part of the DoD recognizes part of the problem: https://innovation.defense.gov/software/ I recommend - Vignette 3 – Making It Hard to Help: A Self-Denial of Service Attack for the SWAP Study - DIB Guide: Detecting Agile BS - Vignette 6 – JMS: Seven Signs That Your Software (Program) Is in Trouble
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Aug 16, 2020 23:35
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Thats pretty bad. Private sector has had systems like this in place for shore side equipment for almost two decades. That is a completely different environment as the O&M vendor can just about take complete control, patch at will, start/stop equipment, whatever but there's no reason suitable gaps and procedures could not be implemented. With the Navy skills shortage it may even make sense to concentrate expertise and push it out remotely. Systems will only be increasing in complexity and therefore knowledge and expertise required. I'm rather surprised that effectively implementing such a system hasn't been at the top of the list for the last several decades. lightpole fucked around with this message at 23:59 on Aug 16, 2020 |
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Aug 16, 2020 23:55
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ManMythLegend posted:The ATO process is absolute insanity. That much is true, and its certainly been a thorn in my side before. I thought the RMF was going to get rid of it, but it didnt. MancXVI posted:At least part of the DoD recognizes part of the problem: https://innovation.defense.gov/software/ lightpole posted:Thats pretty bad. Private sector has had systems like this in place for shore side equipment for almost two decades. That is a completely different environment as the O&M vendor can just about take complete control, patch at will, start/stop equipment, whatever but there's no reason suitable gaps and procedures could not be implemented. Goldwater-Nichols ensures that nobody who buys/makes the stuff are the same people who use the stuff. Combine that with military style hierarchy, and its impossible for our decision makers to have a real sense of what the workers do--they call a week ahead, Sailors do extra cleaning, and announce the Admiral's presence on general announcing--nobodys working because all hands are at the all hands. A star is about as dangerous to a Sailor's career or liberty as a fuel oil leak. I suspect the flags are scared to ask questions because they know their inquisitiveness is often interpreted as direction and like the position and velocity of a particle, they can't ask without affecting the scene. To me, this means that flags will rarely observe the force wide implications of a broken piece of software or a missing part of implementation. So whatever project just slowly dies behind the scenes unless its somebody's baby.
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Aug 17, 2020 01:15
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Wingnut Ninja posted:
We made the switch over at the start of the year to the Samsung tablets. Instead of plugging into NMCI or any of our normal networked stuff to upload/install pubs, we buddy load all our stuff on the tablets from a spare CF-20 the pilots use to update all their pubs. The fun part was we made the switch, but the tablets weren't authorized to be in the simulator for the first month due to not being authorized electronic devices. 
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Aug 17, 2020 03:40
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When I transferred from the Navy to NOAA they gave me my own laptop and an iPad mini with Foreflight and cell data. It was... confusing? I was blown away after 8 years of sharing two computers amongst the wardroom and having a fleet of PFPS and JMPS laptops nobody knew how to update or connect to the network.
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Aug 17, 2020 12:49
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Every flight I flew as an instructor NFO I had a tablet with me. I still had everything I needed in my nav bag but flying with a tablet was so much more convenient.
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Aug 17, 2020 20:39
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Wonder Free posted:When I transferred from the Navy to NOAA they gave me my own laptop and an iPad mini with Foreflight and cell data. It was... confusing? I was blown away after 8 years of sharing two computers amongst the wardroom and having a fleet of PFPS and JMPS laptops nobody knew how to update or connect to the network. Hey, are you just on the P-3, or do you fly the Gulfstream as well? Between amazon and ya’ll, the FAA went ahead and made Lakeland tower a 24hr operation. In 2020. The worst timeline. It might be the only expansion of service I see in my career.
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Aug 17, 2020 23:01
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P-3 only. You only fly one or the other since their primary mission is hurricanes and you can’t be in two crews at once. The 24 hour tower will be nice since we fly all sorts of odd hours for hurricanes and other stuff. I would guess Lakeland’s next move is to try to lure commercial airline service back in again. Looking at a possible deployment for a wave coming across the Atlantic now. A bunch of tracks bring it into Florida next week, so that’ll be a mess again.
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Aug 18, 2020 12:01
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https://twitter.com/CavasShips/status/1295818350262616064?s=20 "I am sure the LCS MCM module will prove as effective," as I take a big sip of coffee and think of the Gulf and SOH yes I see that the Bahrain based ships are staying there
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Aug 18, 2020 21:37
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Nick Soapdish posted:https://twitter.com/CavasShips/status/1295818350262616064?s=20 Whats the most effective ship for MCM operations? Partnerships.
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Aug 18, 2020 22:16
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Why did we even have MCMs in San Diego? Apart from training I guess, what mines they looking to find out there? Bahrain and Japan I get yes, San Diego I don't see why.
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Aug 19, 2020 12:08
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Al Capwn posted:Why did we even have MCMs in San Diego? Apart from training I guess, what mines they looking to find out there? Bahrain and Japan I get yes, San Diego I don't see why. They were transplants from Ingleside which is where NMAWC was before Ingletuckey got BRAC'd and they needed a new home. (That's also part of the reason they went up to 4x in Sasebo from the 2x they used to have.) The stateside sweeps were there to train MCM crews as they rotated to the Bahrain hulls and provide a fleet concentration area for the mine force. But, really, they were all built in the late '80s/early '90s as a countermeasure if the USSR decided to get froggy and mine US harbors.
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AlternateNu posted:(That's also part of the reason they went up to 4x in Sasebo from the 2x they used to have.) Well, that and the odds that at any given time at least one of the four sweeps was operational enough to do something more than anchor in the harbor over the weekend.
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Aug 19, 2020 14:20
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My current CO was a commander of a sweeper and I want to ask him how many sailors he sent to mast for touching weenies but I'm not sure that's a stereotype outside the forums.
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Aug 19, 2020 14:53
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Hekk posted:Well, that and the odds that at any given time at least one of the four sweeps was operational enough to do something more than anchor in the harbor over the weekend. It's been a clip since I was on mine, but we were only down hard for maybe 2-3 weeks total during my tour. Of course, this doesn't count our MMGTG which was down for 7 months because we had a sea water leak at the heat exchanger into the lube oil system corroding the entire loving thing.  LingcodKilla posted:My current CO was a commander of a sweeper and I want to ask him how many sailors he sent to mast for touching weenies but I'm not sure that's a stereotype outside the forums. Can't speak for the whole mine force, but I had to mast a kid and boot him out for touching weenies. I also had to ADSEP a kid who should never had been recruited. He had to take the ASVAB three times to get his 37 score, and the recruiter somehow got him signed up as an AO. But surprise, surprise, he could never get through the AO pipeline, so they rate-transferred him to EN and sent him to us. If it was in my power, I would take everyone in the kid's recruiting + training pipeline and would court martial them for gross negligence and dereliction of duty.
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Al Capwn posted:Why did we even have MCMs in San Diego? Apart from training I guess, what mines they looking to find out there? Bahrain and Japan I get yes, San Diego I don't see why. While during the rotational crew days they were there as training ships, after the MCMs went to single crews back 5 or 6 years ago they remained stateside due to a combination of NORTHCOM homeland defense requirements, cost to move to FDNF, and political will of the host nations to increase force laydown. LingcodKilla posted:My current CO was a commander of a sweeper and I want to ask him how many sailors he sent to mast for touching weenies but I'm not sure that's a stereotype outside the forums. I had a handful of gay guys on my sweep. I never had issues with unauthorized penis touching. However, 2 years before I got there there was serial molester that was touching dudes weiners while they were sleeping in their racks. He got caught in the act and had to be removed from the ship due to death threats.
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Aug 19, 2020 17:46
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ManMythLegend posted:However, 2 years before I got there there was serial molester that was touching dudes weiners while they were sleeping in their racks. He got caught in the act and had to be removed from the ship due to death threats. I didn't know if this was real or minemen making things up for conversation during watch. I should never have doubted.
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piL posted:Whats the most effective ship for MCM operations? Brute force, of course
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Aug 19, 2020 23:44
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The SS Bridgeton https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS_Bridgeton lightpole fucked around with this message at 00:45 on Aug 20, 2020 |
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Aug 20, 2020 00:41
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Got frocked today and that dropping "ping" sound I heard while getting my crows put on ended up being important a few minutes later when a Lieutenant Commander congratulated me by shaking my hand and idly slapping my crows.
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Aug 21, 2020 09:41
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LingcodKilla posted:Got frocked today and that dropping "ping" sound I heard while getting my crows put on ended up being important a few minutes later when a Lieutenant Commander congratulated me by shaking my hand and idly slapping my crows. You've been hazed friend. You must report this to the nearest admiral. Congrats!
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Aug 21, 2020 12:58
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LingcodKilla posted:Got frocked today and that dropping "ping" sound I heard while getting my crows put on ended up being important a few minutes later when a Lieutenant Commander congratulated me by shaking my hand and idly slapping my crows. Lol but oof I bet that poo poo smarts
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LingcodKilla posted:Got frocked today and that dropping "ping" sound I heard while getting my crows put on ended up being important a few minutes later when a Lieutenant Commander congratulated me by shaking my hand and idly slapping my crows. The DOD assassin strikes! Alternately, try putting in for a Purple Heart like the dude from F Troop.
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