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xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

Orvin posted:

Best I can tell is that the police shot a 15 year old yesterday. Understandably, many people were upset with that event. The CPD mobilized, and started patrolling the area armed with assault rifles, and things just kinda escalated.

Mainstream media is reporting it was a 20 year old with a gun, fired shots towards police as he fled and got gunned down.

But the police are handing out the information so who the gently caress knows if they're withholding important context.

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Dexo
Aug 15, 2009

A city that was to live by night after the wilderness had passed. A city that was to forge out of steel and blood-red neon its own peculiar wilderness.
yeah the initial social media reporting was Cops shot a 15 year old.

When all follow up reporting seems to say it was a 20 year old who opened fire on the cops first, who has a fairly long and bad rap sheet.

mastershakeman
Oct 28, 2008

by vyelkin

Dexo posted:

yeah the initial social media reporting was Cops shot a 15 year old.

When all follow up reporting seems to say it was a 20 year old who opened fire on the cops first, who has a fairly long and bad rap sheet.

Luckily, the cops made sure to not have body cams , so no one will ever know!

The X-man cometh
Nov 1, 2009
I still think it's bad that the cops shot a 20-year-old. It's a miracle he survived.

I bet his gun was really a phone.

Oracle
Oct 9, 2004

In better news...

quote:

The Executive Committee of the University of Illinois Board of Trustees on Monday created a new university-related organization as part of a broad effort to expand the reach of saliva-based testing pioneered by U of I researchers that supports widespread testing with rapid results to limit spread of the COVID-19 virus.

Known as Shield T3, the new organization will make the technology available nationally and was established in response to inquiries from universities and institutions across the country. Interest surged after researchers in Urbana-Champaign unveiled the technology to promote safety when on-campus instruction resumes later this month. Since then, it has been expanded to the U of I System’s universities in Chicago and Springfield.

Along with the new university-related organization, the U of I System has already created a new internal unit that is working to make the tests available in Illinois. The unit, known as SHIELD Illinois, will continue building current testing capacity, and hopes to ultimately offer testing to institutions and entities across the state.

The new initiatives grew from the breakthrough SHIELD program developed by Urbana-Champaign researchers. The name is a reference to their efforts to shield the campus community from the COVID-19 virus.

It features a saliva-based test that is easy-to-administer, scalable, sensitive and specific to SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19. The test produces rapid results, at costs significantly below current alternatives such as nasal swabs. Results are available within 2-6 hours rather than three to four days or more.

The quick turnaround time for test results is a key in curbing the virus, allowing isolation early enough to limit spread of the infection as well as narrowing down past exposure to allow more-effective contact tracing. It also identifies and isolates people with asymptomatic cases who would otherwise spread the virus unknowingly.

SHIELD gave rise to the new university-related organization created Monday, Shield T3, which will take the program nationwide. The name is a reference to the strategy’s three-part approach – targeting, testing and telling – and the new organization will operate independently from the statewide SHIELD Illinois program.

Shield T3 will operate as a limited liability company, and will be governed by a nine-member board of managers. Board members will be designated by the U of I Board of Trustees based on recommendations from the system president and the Urbana and Chicago chancellors. Staff will be named promptly after the entity is officially formed.

The statewide program, SHIELD Illinois, is already working to increase current testing capacity to serve institutions and entities in Illinois that have expressed interest in the new technology.

This test only costs $10 per, only needs some kind of test tube-like receptacle and a plastic ziploc type bag to seal it in, doesn't require any expensive or hard to get reagents, can be run in a high school science lab (they repurposed a vetmed lab at this university to exclusively run tests), and if you know how to spit in a tube you can self-administer in a matter of minutes, which reduces the need for PPE for collectors to gloves and masks. If this can become the new standard (its 88.9% accurate, retest of samples brings it up to 100%, which is better than the nasal swab) we could really speed up testing and get a handle on how widespread it really is.

Bizarro Kanyon
Jan 3, 2007

Something Awful, so easy even a spaceman can do it!


Also in good news, Darren Bailey just had all of his Clay county lawsuits against Pritzker moved for Sangamon County because the Illinois legal system is tired of the Chudge down there making stupid rulings or non-rulings.

Bobulus
Jan 28, 2007

Any articles about what tech they're using for the saliva covid test? I doubt the average high school lab has a qPCR machine, so are they just doing old-fashioned reverse transcription, pcr, and agarose gel?

Oracle
Oct 9, 2004

Bobulus posted:

Any articles about what tech they're using for the saliva covid test? I doubt the average high school lab has a qPCR machine, so are they just doing old-fashioned reverse transcription, pcr, and agarose gel?

Paper is here.
They just heat it up.

quote:

Up-front heating of freshly collected saliva samples is attractive as a simple method to inactivate the virus without having to open the collection vessel. Indeed, heat treatment is often used to inactivate saliva patient samples,29,30 thus conferring added biosafety by decreasing the likelihood of viral transmission via sample handling by personnel. Common conditions for SARS-CoV-2 inactivation are heating at 56-60°C for 30-60 min,30,31 although other temperature and times have been examined.30 Using intact, γ- irradiated SARS-CoV-2 spiked into fresh human saliva (that was confirmed to be SARS-CoV-2 negative), we observed dramatic time- and temperature-dependent improvement in SARS-CoV-2 detection by direct RT- qPCR, without the use of RNA extraction. When incubated at ambient temperature (no heat treatment), no SARS-CoV-2 genes were detectable (Figure 2). As temperature and incubation time were increased, substantial improvement in virus detection was observed, with 100% identification of all SARS-CoV-2 genes, in all replicate samples, being detected following a 30 min incubation at 95°C. Importantly, a short heating time (5 minutes) at 95oC (as has been examined by others29,32) does not allow for sensitive detection; the 30 minute duration is essential, as it is likely that this extended heating inactivates components of saliva that inhibit RT-qPCR. Thus, proper heating of patient samples allows for virus detection without the need for RNA extraction, with the added benefit of inactivating the samples, thus substantially reducing biohazard risks.

Bugsy
Jul 15, 2004

I'm thumpin'. That's
why they call me
'Thumper'.


Slippery Tilde
I know Kinzinger has been talked about before, but :lol: at him being only gop dude to say anything bad about qanon and then attacked by the trump campaign for doing so.

https://twitter.com/MattWolking/status/1293598066247962627

brugroffil
Nov 30, 2015


There are going to be multiple believers in that cult in Congress come January, lol

Rod Hoofhearted
Jun 18, 2000

I am a ghost




FOID update:

I posted about submitting an application for an FOID on 5/22. It was approved and sent out on 8/7 and I just got it today, so... 84 days instead of 30 + 10.

I'm fine with it, they just need to update the language to say within 90 days or whatever. I'm pro-FOID, but maybe the state police aren't the best people to process it? I dunno.

Also, they never emailed me an update to say it was approved, just sent it out, so I was surprised when it arrived today.

brugroffil posted:

There are going to be multiple believers in that cult in Congress come January, lol

I couldn't resist replying to Kizinger's tweet earlier today:

"In a few short years, the majority of the House GOP caucus will be QAnon nuts and you'll be derided as a RINO.

Conservatism is a cult, and it's getting more cult-like every day."

MadDogMike
Apr 9, 2008

Cute but fanged

Oracle posted:

Paper is here.
They just heat it up.

Thanks for the link, that was a really well considered experiment and the results are pretty promising.

Oracle
Oct 9, 2004

MadDogMike posted:

Thanks for the link, that was a really well considered experiment and the results are pretty promising.

The guy who came up with it was on NPR All Things Considered today, right after some Trump stooge who said they were having the FDA approve ‘a saliva test’ as early as next week. Between that and the formation of this LLC to help roll out testing to more places I can’t help but read between the lines and think it’s this one. They’ve even got an app that you can opt in for contact tracing like in Hong Kong where it uses your phones proximity to other phones to alert you if you’ve been near someone who’s tested positive.

dwarf74
Sep 2, 2012



Buglord
... and now my district's 4,000+ new chromebooks have been delayed 4-6 weeks by the federal government's slapfight with China/Lenovo.

We can manage I think? But wow. The hits just keep coming

Lager
Mar 9, 2004

Give me the secret to the anti-puppet equation!

dwarf74 posted:

... and now my district's 4,000+ new chromebooks have been delayed 4-6 weeks by the federal government's slapfight with China/Lenovo.

We can manage I think? But wow. The hits just keep coming

Yeah, that's just loving delightful.

Rod Hoofhearted
Jun 18, 2000

I am a ghost




All the "small-government conservatives" sure don't seem to mind the current administration interfering with our lives in a 100 little ways day-to-day.

dwarf74
Sep 2, 2012



Buglord

Lager posted:

Yeah, that's just loving delightful.
Like, at this point the clear answer would be "delay the start of school until the district gets its crap together" but that would have been the right call when they switched to online-only a week ago. Right now it would just be too much whiplash for parents, teachers, and all of the childcare places that are now putting together 'school camps' or whatever.

Bugsy
Jul 15, 2004

I'm thumpin'. That's
why they call me
'Thumper'.


Slippery Tilde

LabyaMynora posted:

All the "small-government conservatives" sure don't seem to mind the current administration interfering with our lives in a 100 little ways day-to-day.

Only when they aren't in power just like the deficit.

Bird in a Blender
Nov 17, 2005

It's amazing what they can do with computers these days.

LabyaMynora posted:

All the "small-government conservatives" sure don't seem to mind the current administration interfering with our lives in a 100 little ways day-to-day.

They only care when the government interferes with them making more money.

Rod Hoofhearted
Jun 18, 2000

I am a ghost




Bird in a Blender posted:

They only care when the government interferes with them making more money.

This post office thing is kind of interfering with a lot of small businesses making money, and I'm sure it's not just liberal Etsy dealers and what not.

Lotta Chudly boomers on eBay selling stupid "collectibles" that are going to be put out.

brugroffil
Nov 30, 2015


They'll blame it on the union and government

The X-man cometh
Nov 1, 2009

LabyaMynora posted:

This post office thing is kind of interfering with a lot of small businesses making money, and I'm sure it's not just liberal Etsy dealers and what not.

Lotta Chudly boomers on eBay selling stupid "collectibles" that are going to be put out.

Those assholes probably use UPS because they don't trust their Black or Latino mailman.

Rod Hoofhearted
Jun 18, 2000

I am a ghost




The X-man cometh posted:

Those assholes probably use UPS because they don't trust their Black or Latino mailman.

OTOH USPS is cheaper... so hard to get into the boomer mind and figure out if cheapness overrides racism or the other way around. :thunk:

Sarcastro
Dec 28, 2000
Elite member of the Grammar Nazi Squad that

LabyaMynora posted:

OTOH USPS is cheaper... so hard to get into the boomer mind and figure out if cheapness overrides racism or the other way around. :thunk:

Their ideological forebears were so committed to racism that they preferred to built two sets of bathrooms and drinking fountains rather than share. Racism is first and foremost.

Bizarro Kanyon
Jan 3, 2007

Something Awful, so easy even a spaceman can do it!


My hometown opened school up on Tuesday. Thursday they announced that a staff member tested positive but had not been at the building (high school and junior high building) since Monday. They said that due to this, they could continue on with school.

Today, they called all the parents because a junior high teacher had tested positive so all of the junior high is on remote learning for the next two weeks. No mention about what the high school should do since they are in the same building. 3 days!

My wife took a test on 8/3 and did not get her results until 8/11 (she tested negative but worked from home just in case). 8 days between testing and results means that a lot of people will go about their routine while spreading the virus.

Also, Oklahoma had a case where a student knowingly tested positive but went to school anyways because he was asymptomatic and thought he could not spread it.

brugroffil
Nov 30, 2015


This was obviously the only way this was going to go and why attempts to open'r up at all were so dumb. Now they're just left for even more last second scrambling and the inability for anyone to plan anything more than a day in advance.

Sarcastro
Dec 28, 2000
Elite member of the Grammar Nazi Squad that
Our district (in DuPage) recently released its plan for in-person return, with an option to do all-virtual (the choice could then be revisited at the trimester). My wife and I ultimately decided to opt for all-virtual, and our kids were basically okay with this. A large part of our decision was based on an assumption that there was no way an in-person return could be sustained, especially since it's a semi-large district and we're in the largest of the elementary schools. Very few families opted for virtual, meaning that the schools were going to be pretty much at full capacity, except somehow distanced. The school board is meeting tomorrow to reassess, and I'm about 95% certain they're going to pull the plug on the in-person return.

Thwomp
Apr 10, 2003

BA-DUHHH

Grimey Drawer
I do feel for the state leaders/school boards/county officials (at least the non-chud ones) who are in a true bind.

They shut everything down in the spring and hoped the feds would come in with assistance given the feds were the only ones who could.

Local and state governments were strapped before the pandemic and now they’ve lost most of their revenue sources for months on end.

Since the feds didn’t step in, the choices they’re left with are either 1) remain locked down and go bankrupt (which may not even be an option for some localities/states) or 2) attempt to reopen as “safely” as possible and hope to limp long on a fraction of revenue until the crisis passes or the feds actually do arrive.

Unless I’m misreading the situation.

Bird in a Blender
Nov 17, 2005

It's amazing what they can do with computers these days.

Our formerly imprisoned governor!
https://twitter.com/jonathanvswan/status/1295355084692389889

Deathlove
Feb 20, 2003

Pillbug

Sarcastro posted:

Our district (in DuPage) recently released its plan for in-person return, with an option to do all-virtual (the choice could then be revisited at the trimester). My wife and I ultimately decided to opt for all-virtual, and our kids were basically okay with this. A large part of our decision was based on an assumption that there was no way an in-person return could be sustained, especially since it's a semi-large district and we're in the largest of the elementary schools. Very few families opted for virtual, meaning that the schools were going to be pretty much at full capacity, except somehow distanced. The school board is meeting tomorrow to reassess, and I'm about 95% certain they're going to pull the plug on the in-person return.

Also in DuPage (CUSD 200/Wheaton), until last week, we were under the same plan until 89 (Glen Ellyn/Lombard) decided to scratch all in-person stuff and just go full virtual, then we followed their plan, so, fingers crossed you're the next domino!

Jows
May 8, 2002


I think if you're impeached, removed from office, disallowed from ever holding public office ever again, and imprisoned for the crimes that led to A, B, and C, you shouldn't be allowed the use of the honorific of "Gov." anymore.

Poque
Sep 11, 2003

=^-^=
I love how they think it's a win that the convicted criminal supports republicans now

dwarf74
Sep 2, 2012



Buglord

Poque posted:

I love how they think it's a win that the convicted criminal supports republicans now
It'll be awesome to watch the cognitive dissonance from local Republicans who were calling for his head a few years ago, and now have to fit the 'Blago is on our side now' into their political schema.

Niwrad
Jul 1, 2008

Poque posted:

I love how they think it's a win that the convicted criminal supports republicans now

Sad thing is it probably does resonate with their base. DEEP STATE GOT TO HIM!

dwarf74
Sep 2, 2012



Buglord
If you're in the area and sad they're keeping the address secret, smart money (according to a friend) is that it'll be at the Baker Hotel.

brugroffil
Nov 30, 2015


Metro East has reached 'mitigation level' and will face new restrictions in Illinois. Here's the tough new crackdown:



https://capitolfax.com/2020/08/16/state-announces-mitigation-effort-in-metro-east/



quote:

Once a region meets resurgence criteria, mitigations will be implemented. For Region 4, mitigation measures taking effect August 18, 2020, include the following:

• Meetings, social events, and other gatherings are now limited to the lesser of 25 individuals or 25 percent of overall room capacity
• All bars, restaurants, gaming facilities, and casinos will close at 11 pm, matching the newly imposed closing times for St. Louis
• All reception halls closed
• Party buses not allowed to operate
• Reservations required for each party at restaurants and bars, and no congregating indoors or outdoors
• Indoor tables reduced to six people or less
• No dancing indoors
• Removal of bar stools at bars to help prevent congregating
• Tables should continue to be six feet apart


I'm sure this will do the trick!

Bird in a Blender
Nov 17, 2005

It's amazing what they can do with computers these days.

No dancing? What is this, Footloose? Yea, that is barely any sort of mitigation plan.

brugroffil
Nov 30, 2015


Definitely time to add Pritzker to the list of failed COVID governors. Is there anyone not on that list?

Rod Hoofhearted
Jun 18, 2000

I am a ghost




Poque posted:

I love how they think it's a win that the convicted criminal supports republicans now

Yeah, it’s like they could have hung him around Democrats’ necks as a symbol of sleazy corruption, but I guess sleazy corruption is the GOP’s brand now.

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xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

brugroffil posted:

Definitely time to add Pritzker to the list of failed COVID governors. Is there anyone not on that list?

WTF is he supposed to do when law enforcement refuses to enforce, every chud lawyer is filing lawsuits crying about how unconstitutional his orders are, and everyone else ignores the order because Americans are loving stupid and don't give a poo poo who they kill?

Sure, objectively, he failed to stop or even slow the plague. But so has the entire loving country.

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