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Dr Pepper posted:Wait let me see if I've got this straight. It's even more hosed because the results (it is presumed due to rounding errors but noone knows) are actually significantly more unequal than the results in any of the three previous years, according to a study commissioned by schools. And it was already loving unequal before; posh independent school? 48% quota for students with top grades. State school? 16%. Oh and - the results are used as practically the exclusive measure for university admission. Hope you have the money to pay about a median salary in tuition/lodging fees and living expenses or your kids aren't getting that university degree. Better enjoy your prole jobs you prole kids, cause that's your life now. e: Also it is not normally possibly to retake the exam for better results. This time it is, supposedly, by paying 100 quids for an appeal, though because there were so many appeals the Office for Qualification and Examination Regulation (ofqual) withdrew its appeals guideline so nobody knows?? Ofqual chief: 'This is the fairest way to award grades without exams' quote:Results day, whether for GCSEs or A-levels, is an emotional moment for young people across the country. This year, it will be especially so as grades are being awarded without students having had the chance to prove their knowledge and skills in exams. Instead, they are being awarded grades on the basis of teacher judgments that have been moderated to ensure, as far as possible, consistency and fairness. Look, it's very Fair and Objective that poor kids have worse results and get hosed in university admissions, so that's naturally what we strive to ensure. Of course the twat did the article paywalled in Telegraph. (a.k.a. Torygraph, the unofficial newspaper of the conservative party) Private Speech has issued a correction as of 08:43 on Aug 17, 2020 |
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the grades thing is about the most demented poo poo i've ever seen, it's unbelievably dysfunctional and it blows my mind that *anyone* is defending it
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This was good https://labourlist.org/2020/08/tories-delete-tweet-criticising-scottish-results-after-english-a-level-scandal/ The same thing happened in Scotland a week before. Scottish Tories accused Sturgeon of presiding over a scandal. Then the English govt did the same thing - tweet mysteriously disappears
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V. Illych L. posted:the grades thing is about the most demented poo poo i've ever seen, it's unbelievably dysfunctional and it blows my mind that *anyone* is defending it The media and rightwingers in general are extremely well trained at this point to defend anything because the Tories or their favourite right wing figure have done It, rather than any assessment of what it is.
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Aug 17, 2020 11:54
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is WAG the british WAP
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Aug 17, 2020 18:42
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it’s established canon that Sarah Vine has a DAP https://twitter.com/pippacrerar/status/677024011658919936?s=21
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Aug 17, 2020 19:19
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Third World Reagan posted:where is brexit Brexit - its delicate, but potent. Teddy told me that in Greek Brexit literally means “the pain from an old wound.” It’s a twinge in your heart far more powerful than memory alone. This policy isn’t a spaceship, it’s a time machine. It goes backwards, and forwards… it takes us to a place where we ache to go again.
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Bryter posted:it’s established canon that Sarah Vine has a DAP Considering Gove's career to date it seems like he loves getting publicly humiliated so this is probably their version of foreplay
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Dr Pepper posted:Wait let me see if I've got this straight. when doing A-levels, your teachers assign predicted final grades based on your coursework, mock exams during the course, and prior exam results in that subject. This contains several subtle inequalities - state schools have far less resources, much larger class sizers and pay teachers less (dropout rate of teacher training has, in recent years, been well over half). The result of all this is that students in state schools have less contact time with educators than public and private school students, in schools that have less staff with less experience. Combine this with the fact the parents are working and aren't anywhere near as likely to have private tutors or nannies, and you see very large disparities in grades despite the fact that anyone that's ever met private school kids (or seen a tory speak) knows they're horrible inbred brainless shites about 90% of the time. All of this, as I say, is inherently factored into grade predictions. Because exams are a loving impossible mess, and the huge amount of missed lesson time, the exam boards decided that predictions would now be the final result. The government then decided to upgrade all the results of fee-paying schools while massively downgrading state school results because "fee schools get better results". They also decided this should be done with a grading curve, so anyone that succesfully appeals their downgraded results ensures that everyone elses results (up to their new place on the curve) has their results instantly downgraded. Everyone can appeal, but you can't stop anyone else getting further downgraded if your appeal is succesful. I'm not sure if you get downgraded after your own appeal but I think the answer is yes. I'm not sure about the algorithm stuff. I think it's just a lie tbh. The whole scandal has now ended with the government reversing their intervention and making predictions final again, because they've already announced the abolition of public health england and no longer need to distract the newspapers.
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If there was an algorithm then the only thing that makes sense was it looked at the inherent grade inequalities between fee and state schools and then applied the disparity after predictions, which is still deliberate, evil, and indefensibly stupid. Oh also Gavin Williamson said a thing about not wanting state school kids to get over-promoted later in life. You'll remember him as spider boy, the guy that the military openly laughed at when he got made their boss, and the minister nominated to head up government intelligence who lost the job because he didn't notice his colleagues were plotting against him. The over-promotion thing also just assumes that Universities don't exist, and ignores that everything you learn at A-levels is firmly in the "useful but objectively wrong in every way" category
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Spangly A posted:deliberate, evil, and indefensibly stupid The Something Awful Forums > Debate & Discussion > C-SPAM: The Void that Screams Back > UK Politics thread: deliberate, evil, and indefensibly stupid
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the grading stuff legitimately blows my mind, as is the apparently unanimous consensus that teachers are assholes who hate their students to the extent that one big exam is more reasonable
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V. Illych L. posted:the apparently unanimous consensus that teachers are assholes who hate their students to the extent that one big exam is more reasonable it's projection, of course. these people simply cannot imagine anyone actually enjoying working with children
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Spangly A posted:Oh also Gavin Williamson said a thing about not wanting state school kids to get over-promoted later in life. the naked classism of britain never fails to astound in the US a statement like that would be veiled behind a concern that the state school kids "wouldn't be able to perform in university", which is quite condescending but at least attempts not to sound evil. meanwhile you all have folks spouting off about how the poor can never be allowed outside their station and that's just normal edit: for the record im not saying that the US is any better in general, just that this kind of thing comes off a bit like walking into a room and immediately hearing an earnest discussion of racial phrenology Jazerus has issued a correction as of 23:07 on Aug 17, 2020 |
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Spangly A posted:If there was an algorithm then the only thing that makes sense was it looked at the inherent grade inequalities between fee and state schools and then applied the disparity after predictions, which is still deliberate, evil, and indefensibly stupid. The government intelligence committee fuckup was actually Chris Grayling, who, if possible, is even worse.
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Jazerus posted:the naked classism of britain never fails to astound I think it's the difference between Nouveau Rich aristocracy, and ye olde ancien regime aristocracy.
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therattle posted:The government intelligence committee fuckup was actually Chris Grayling, who, if possible, is even worse. grayling is the most comically inept politician i've ever seen and I follow four countries' politics fairly closely it's astonishing that the man hasn't fallen into a puddle and drowned, much less stopped being a quite senior MP
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therattle posted:The government intelligence committee fuckup was actually Chris Grayling, who, if possible, is even worse. state school education strikes again!
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https://twitter.com/businessinsider/status/1298188530620014592 Brexit achieved Covid defeated time to retire
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Third World Reagan posted:where is brexit upstaged again! the sun will rise on Empire once more! 
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Reality Protester posted:https://twitter.com/businessinsider/status/1298188530620014592 wow he looks like poo poo
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Aug 25, 2020 20:58
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Quit while you're ahead, I say: leave before the crash out.
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Aug 25, 2020 21:00
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Ahahahah how is this joke of a country even real?
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Reality Protester posted:https://twitter.com/businessinsider/status/1298188530620014592 This is something that will forever amaze me. This guy could have just chilled with all kinds of money and been like some advisor to some shadowy think tank to add to whatever obscene wealth he already has but he just wants to live the most painful life leading the country. It's almost as if he was indoctrinated from an early age to "rule" at his own expense for powers beyond his control or w/e here we are. Just take the money and run and get a nice suntan. Eton people are loving weird.
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Imagine putting yourself through this poo poo when you could live in a nice house forever, times 100.
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perc2 posted:This is something that will forever amaze me. This guy could have just chilled with all kinds of money and been like some advisor to some shadowy think tank to add to whatever obscene wealth he already has but he just wants to live the most painful life leading the country. It's almost as if he was indoctrinated from an early age to "rule" at his own expense for powers beyond his control or w/e here we are. Just take the money and run and get a nice suntan. Eton people are loving weird. He wanted to be PM because he wanted to be PM. Not to accomplish anything, but just to satisfy his ego and ambition. And now that he has it he has no idea what to do with it. Thus the heavy reliance on Cummings.
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perc2 posted:This is something that will forever amaze me. This guy could have just chilled with all kinds of money and been like some advisor to some shadowy think tank to add to whatever obscene wealth he already has but he just wants to live the most painful life leading the country. It's almost as if he was indoctrinated from an early age to "rule" at his own expense for powers beyond his control or w/e here we are. Just take the money and run and get a nice suntan. Eton people are loving weird. There's so many great details to this too, like how he's always had contempt for people taking sick leave and insisted everyone working for him work through their illness, or how he refused to stop shaking hands with people even when front page news was the government saying DO NOT SHAKE HANDS WITH PEOPLE. Just the most avoidable incident in the world which he practically insisted happen because he genuinely internalised all that insane stoic public school poo poo and refused to take even the most basic measures to protect himself, all whilst being a rapidly aging overweight alcoholic.
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therattle posted:He wanted to be PM because he wanted to be PM. This motherfucker never had a lucid moment where he thought he wanted to be PM because of any kind of political conviction... he is a product of a system that needs to keep freaks like him at the helm
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multijoe posted:There's so many great details to this too, like how he's always had contempt for people taking sick leave and insisted everyone working for him work through their illness, or how he refused to stop shaking hands with people even when front page news was the government saying DO NOT SHAKE HANDS WITH PEOPLE. Just the most avoidable incident in the world which he practically insisted happen because he genuinely internalised all that insane stoic public school poo poo and refused to take even the most basic measures to protect himself, all whilst being a rapidly aging overweight alcoholic. I think it’s less stoicism and more entitlement and privilege. “This illness affects other people but it won’t get me because I’m special”.
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perc2 posted:This is something that will forever amaze me. This guy could have just chilled with all kinds of money and been like some advisor to some shadowy think tank to add to whatever obscene wealth he already has but he just wants to live the most painful life leading the country. It's almost as if he was indoctrinated from an early age to "rule" at his own expense for powers beyond his control or w/e here we are. Just take the money and run and get a nice suntan. Eton people are loving weird. denigrating a man for devoting his life to public service to the point it nearly killed him smdh
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I'm glad i finally clicked through to the articlequote:"If you put a horse back to work when it's injured, it will never recover," The Times quoted him as saying. horse johnson
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V. Illych L. posted:boris johnson, like a lot of the very upper class of british society, has been thoroughly brutalised since childhood and likely has a deeply damaged psyche. in a very real sense, he's a survivor of serious abuse and deserves pity; the horrific part is that this system of abuse is the ritual reproduction of the british upper class, and the scars are considered emblems of leadership and intellect. the dude thought that winning the biggest popularity contest of them all and embracing his destiny would fulfill him, but it didn't and i'd be shocked if he has any idea how to stop feeling so empty all the time The entire boarding school system seems designed to create brutal sociopaths that can do the job of running a cruel empire.
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Dr Pepper posted:The entire boarding school system seems designed to create brutal sociopaths that can do the job of running a cruel empire. Working as intended
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