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SlothfulCobra posted:I think that's actually supposed to be Japan? That's what showed up when I searched for "Zipangri". Ah I guess that isn't supposed to be California there then. But here's what I was thinking of: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Island_of_California
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Which river is the mississippi and what's the other? I assume the forking one?
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I have to admit Terra Florida is a awesome name. It should have stayed that way, instead of using the name just for the peninsula.
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Milo and POTUS posted:Which river is the mississippi and what's the other? I assume the forking one?
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Peaceful Anarchy posted:Given the general accuracy of that map they're probably both the Mississippi, just drawn from different information. If one is being generous, maybe one is Mobile Bay? Pretty sure the river dividing the yellow and green areas is the Rio Grande. VVV Geshtal fucked around with this message at 22:31 on Aug 13, 2020 |
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Aug 13, 2020 20:57
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I'd say the forked one is the Mississippi-Missouri. Maybe the other is the Rio Grande?
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I would say the river could be the Sabine River, which currently flows between Texas and Louisiana. It was important enough to be the international boundary between Spain and the USA, then Mexico and the USA, and finally Texas and the USA.
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Aug 14, 2020 01:02
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I'm more concerned about the 2000 mile long boat in the pacific.
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Aug 14, 2020 01:07
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a map of anglo-saxon China ( or the Cyngedom of Mideland)
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PawParole posted:a map of anglo-saxon China ( or the Cyngedom of Mideland) Are we sure Blackdrake Rush isn't a WoW dungeon
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PawParole posted:a map of anglo-saxon China ( or the Cyngedom of Mideland) There's definitely some liberties taken with this Pakled posted:Are we sure Blackdrake Rush isn't a WoW dungeon The literal translation of that region is "Black Dragon River"
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SlothfulCobra posted:
Yeah it's not noble savage poo poo, it's that the modern nation-state that can be painted on a map with hard borders is a very specifically european idea from the recent past.
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:Yeah it's not noble savage poo poo, it's that the modern nation-state that can be painted on a map with hard borders is a very specifically european idea from the recent past. That's patently false. Yes the lack of good surveying techniques and incomplete information made it exceedingly difficult to figure out what was where and in what shape, but States of all sorts have been finding ways to say "This is our poo poo and that is your poo poo and no one crosses this abstract line." since the Bronze Age on the Middle East. It is in no way a European idea. And Native Americans sure as hell had functioning states equivalent to european ones made of sedentary agricultural peoples. Aztecs, Inca's, Mayans, and others operated in the same ways old world states did. The idea they didn't is exactly the kinda "Noble Savage" myth meant to justify treating them as lesser.
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There seem to be a lot of these weird semi-myths about American natives. They were and are human beings, and they did all of the things that humans do. Many of the North American tribes were not nomadic, or only partly, and they did not 'live in harmony with nature'. There are quite a few examples of them overexploiting the environment. It is now even believed that the 'pristine' pre-Columbian Amazon rainforest was actually already shaped by human activity to a large extent. e: btw, I'm in 66,700th place right now. #journeyto5000 Phlegmish fucked around with this message at 04:25 on Aug 14, 2020 |
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galagazombie posted:That's patently false. Yes the lack of good surveying techniques and incomplete information made it exceedingly difficult to figure out what was where and in what shape, but States of all sorts have been finding ways to say "This is our poo poo and that is your poo poo and no one crosses this abstract line." since the Bronze Age on the Middle East. It is in no way a European idea. And Native Americans sure as hell had functioning states equivalent to european ones made of sedentary agricultural peoples. Aztecs, Inca's, Mayans, and others operated in the same ways old world states did. The idea they didn't is exactly the kinda "Noble Savage" myth meant to justify treating them as lesser. I feel like you're not getting my point, but it's late and I'm extraordinarily high so imma drop it. Like I agree with y'all. As recompense, I don't have a map, but I do have the greatest song ever written: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmHsKdpPTPk
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PawParole posted:a map of anglo-saxon China ( or the Cyngedom of Mideland) This is definitely not a China thing but I always wish that Imperial Japanese ships in WW2 could have their names translated in histories and it always pisses me off that they aren't.
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Aug 14, 2020 05:34
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Like I want "Hiryu" called "Flying Dragon" and such and such.
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Spazzle posted:I'm more concerned about the 2000 mile long boat in the pacific. Zipango 
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Jehde posted:Thanks, I hate them. https://twitter.com/eyeballslicer/status/1294001807614717959
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No irregular coastlines, s'fine.
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Aug 14, 2020 15:48
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I don't remember if somebody posted this already 
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Weird the countries that they left out. Oman, Qatar, Libya, Turkey, Pakistan, Armenia, Georgia, Azerbaijan, Afghanistan, and Pakistan aren't the middle east I guess.
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Oops, I posted that in the charts thread instead of here. Also note the map takes Sudan's side in its territorial dispute with Egypt.
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SlothfulCobra posted:Weird the countries that they left out. Oman, Qatar, Libya, Turkey, Pakistan, Armenia, Georgia, Azerbaijan, Afghanistan, and Pakistan aren't the middle east I guess. Libya is in Africa. Turkey, Armenia, Azerbaijan and Georgia in Transcaucasia. Afghanistan and Pakistan in South Asia.
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If anywhere is part of the "middle east", Bir Tawil is.
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SlothfulCobra posted:Weird the countries that they left out. Oman, Qatar, Libya, Turkey, Pakistan, Armenia, Georgia, Azerbaijan, Afghanistan, and Pakistan aren't the middle east I guess. Turkey and the three ex-Soviet countries (plus Cyprus) sometimes get put into Europe. And Afghanistan is the Missouri of Asia, hard to choose where it best belongs (Middle East? Central Asia? South Asia??) Pakistan though is firmly South Asia.
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Leaving out Oman and the gulf states is bizarre tho.
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To be fair if you include too much territory the printed map is going to be really small, and difficult to draw on
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I've always liked this map from Wikipedia, which shows the common "core" territories and other overlapping regions. It's pretty hard to say Armenia or Afghanistan is part of the Middle East, but for various reasons they're often included in the same discussions.
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It's not hard at all to argue that Armenia is in the Middle East.
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the middle east is quantum, and exists everywhere until you look.
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double nine posted:the U.S. Midwest is quantum, and exists everywhere until you look.
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I'm always confused as to why Pakistan is considered a part of the Middle East. The culture, language cuisine etc is almost exactly the same as North India.
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What's really fucky is the "Near East." Somehow, all of the Near East is also part of the Middle East by most definitions, and by some definitions, they're the same.
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ToxicAcne posted:I'm always confused as to why Pakistan is considered a part of the Middle East. The culture, language cuisine etc is almost exactly the same as North India. They're muslim Edit. I don't agree with it but that's probably why people think of them as ME
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Count Roland posted:I've always liked this map from Wikipedia, which shows the common "core" territories and other overlapping regions. That's just a map of Muslim majority countries minus Southeastern Asia plus the Caucasus for some reason. Grouping Central Asia with the Levant is a bit farfetched.
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Fader Movitz posted:They're muslims To be fair, so is Bangladesh and Indonesia. e: f,b
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FreudianSlippers posted:That's just a map of Muslim majority countries minus Southeastern Asia plus the Caucasus for some reason. This is extremely wrong in both the sense that everything colored is majority Muslim, and that anything not colored isn't.
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Georgia is about 10% Muslim and is colored as is Armenia which is almost entirely Christian.
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