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I wish I could delete solo queue Novas from the game Nova in general really
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Did they undumpster her or just people picking her and being terrible?
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Aug 19, 2020 08:08
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You're just jealous she makes the big bucks.
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Aug 19, 2020 13:15
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for those wondering, zul'jin's new talent at level 20 does not generate additional on-hit stacks, making it... pretty underwhelming
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Aug 20, 2020 01:47
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Kith posted:for those wondering, zul'jin's new talent at level 20 does not generate additional on-hit stacks, making it... pretty underwhelming thank you for this warning before I play several games that end at level 15-20 trying to test the talent out
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Aug 20, 2020 06:41
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Captain Oblivious posted:I wish I could delete solo queue Novas from the game This but the 'good' trifecta of Ranged Assassins in Li-Ming/Lunara/Tass.
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Aug 20, 2020 08:23
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WITCHCRAFT posted:thank you for this warning before I play several games that end at level 15-20 trying to test the talent out try mode saves lives
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Aug 20, 2020 11:49
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I'm not sure which I hate worse, QM Illidans or Bronze League Butchers
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Aug 20, 2020 20:34
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I find with butcher you can at least lead them around a little bit, but bad illidans? Not a chance.
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Aug 20, 2020 21:46
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A bad lvl 20 Illidan might be more likely to do something than a bad Lvl 20 Butcher with no meat.
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Aug 21, 2020 04:38
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Aaod posted:Did they undumpster her or just people picking her and being terrible? pretty sure it's just "wow hot sniper lady must pick her every single time I can" see widowmaker in overwatch
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Aug 22, 2020 04:20
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What I figured since last I knew she was still garbage tier because blizzard gave up on balancing her because they can't balance her at low MMR and high MMR so they just gave up entirely.
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Aug 22, 2020 05:44
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nova is also a stealth assassin w/ massive burst damage and killing a target before they have a chance to react or meaningfully defend themselves provides a particular kind of high that a lot of people are into (see also: Stealth Archer builds in Skyrim and/or pretty much any game with Sniper Rifles in it) it also just so happens that nova is stuffed to the gills with crutch mechanics so bad players succeed with her in silver/vs AI and then take her out for a spin and whoops now they're incompetent because everyone else figured out how to play with normal characters and easily counter lovely novas Kith fucked around with this message at 10:19 on Aug 22, 2020 |
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Aug 22, 2020 10:16
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What can also make Novas so bad is how a few of them refuse to ever attack anything that is not a hero. I have seen a few Novas and Valeeras that end the game with extremely low siege damage and XP.
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Aug 22, 2020 15:55
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so the ETC buff is dumb like really dumb like really really really really really really dumb like there is zero reason to ever take any other level 13 talent for any reason 8% cooldown reduction on your heroic for each enemy hero hit with Face Melt, twice this is after ETC was widely considered to be one of the most balanced tanks in the game with high playmaking potential balanced by high skill requirements
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Aug 23, 2020 00:06
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Their plan is to nerf Loud Speakers, the level 4 range on W talent. This is generally how they do it, overbuff then apply the nerf they wanted to do afterwards.
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Aug 23, 2020 20:20
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Abathur seems to be in a good place right now. The slug is leading me to single que win streaks of 6 or 7 qm games in a row. Soaking multiple lanes gives a giant boost to bad teams early on, late game, rolling with a second symbiote gives so many spikes to a monstrosity that’s a great center of a murder ball. There’s a lot of that “hat me I’m the star player” to ignore though.
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Aug 24, 2020 13:25
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I don’t know how to play with abas for whatever reason and I always dread seeing one on my team. I don’t doubt you are one of the golden abathur lords who crush the will of peasants, but that is not the quality of Aba I get.
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Aug 24, 2020 15:29
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Nova is fun because you can get huge kill streaks and dominate teams that have poor positioning. It's not uncommon for me to get 8/1 ratios with her. But she struggles when teammates can't deal out damage for her to capitalize on, or are bad at laning generally. She can't really carry a bad team, so she's a bit of a win-more hero. And if the person playing Nova is bad at positioning, then she's just dead weight. All that being said, there is nothing funnier than playing as Abathur and repeatedly blowing up Nova with mines.
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Rexicon1 posted:I don’t know how to play with abas for whatever reason and I always dread seeing one on my team. I don’t doubt you are one of the golden abathur lords who crush the will of peasants, but that is not the quality of Aba I get. I love you. Tell me your're bnet name.
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Aug 25, 2020 07:01
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slug slug slug Tier one: Pressurized Glands It gives enough range to make hatting minions really worth it Tier two: Needlespine Range and damage, just mash q w and e over and over. Tier three: Networked Carapace It can shield a whole wave of minions, Tyrael does this well too. It gives them so much more soak potential Tier four: Heroic - Both are good, but I prefer monster for the uninitiated. It gives you skin in the game, helps you make a murderball after L20 Tier five: Soma Transference More heal for your monster, or whatever hero you hat Tier six: Envenomed Spikes You can really light a squirrely enemy up, people dont often notice the hat on non players. Trap people, help them escape, tank with the monster (Volatile Mutation is actually good too if you can work the monster) Tier seven: Hivemind This thing hats two people, that's so much spike in the murderball, esp with something like Volatile Mutation Soak early game, maybe pop on for the first clash in middle lane. If there's nobody in a lane, pop in and collect globes. Practice getting from one pack of minions to the next efficiently, simultaneously watching the map, your slug butt, your team. Dont type, you have something better to do. Dont try to be a healer unless youre really lacking for things to do, or you see you can help one really effective player. Dont do what people in QM tell you to do. Post level 20 try to herd up with everybody to really make that radiant damage/mass shield heal felt. Locust build is fun if you're playing a really short map, like the one with the altars and cannons and poo poo I forget, it's so short they can kick over lanes if you follow this spec, but replace with locust talents.
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Aug 25, 2020 07:19
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I haven't played in like two years, can you still deep tunnel into the enemy base, pop some locusts, hearth out, hat the locusts and kill a keep (either 100-0 during curse on Cursed Hollow or 2-3 trips on other maps)?
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SoundwaveAU posted:I haven't played in like two years, can you still deep tunnel into the enemy base, pop some locusts, hearth out, hat the locusts and kill a keep (either 100-0 during curse on Cursed Hollow or 2-3 trips on other maps)? No, they fixed that years ago.
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W.T. Fits posted:No, they fixed that years ago. No, you can totally still do this, you just have to get closer on account of no longer having the global mines range talent.
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Aug 25, 2020 14:43
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you 100% can still do that and fan caused an emergency patch by going on a ~28 game winstreak in masters by abusing the gently caress out of it on stream edit: yeah this https://news.blizzard.com/en-us/heroes-of-the-storm/23305953/heroes-of-the-storm-balance-patch-notes-february-12-2020#abathur it's still doable but takes a lot more wrangling Kith fucked around with this message at 15:14 on Aug 25, 2020 |
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Aug 25, 2020 15:05
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To be fair, it was absurd to have locusts do that kind of structure damage and I don't know what the devs were thinking at all. It was hilarious watching Abathur singlehandedly destroy every keep without risk, but not balanced in the slightest.
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Huh, I thought that strategy died after they nerfed the range on the ranged locusts. My bad.
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W.T. Fits posted:Huh, I thought that strategy died after they nerfed the range on the ranged locusts. My bad. They reintroduced the issue after a patch where they buffed locust damage to structures. This video exemplified the tactic (particularly after 13:00) https://youtu.be/VrehQeWIZU8
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Aug 25, 2020 17:50
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It’s entirely possible that I’m wood league and soaking multiple lanes is a viable strategy in QM. It seems like as I do better, they match me with newer and newer people till I’m hatting some boob trying desperately to lick a window. The slug takes the two lanes that are completely ignored in these matches and pours experience into the team. Fan can play a whole match as Maive without taking a hit. I’ve never had gameplay with anybody ever doing anything like that. I was watching Pally for a while because he seems not as good, for some reason I like that.
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Aug 25, 2020 19:38
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Pushing/Soaking builds still work often in QM because people are so focused on team fights. I have seen plenty of matches with a abby or azmo slowly pushing to victory while my team or the enemy team barely bats an eye at them.
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Aug 26, 2020 05:15
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Charles Bukowski posted:a bad Lvl 20 Butcher with no meat. you've already lost. i am all for fighting to the last, and pulling VITAL uses of long cooldown skills, but if it's lvl 20 and your butcher hasn't grilled 200 meats? you're hosed. Butcher needs to thrive early to make use of anything. If it's late game and he is still trying to finish his HERO SPECIFIC EARLY-GAME BUILD-IDENTIFYING QUEST; THIS IS THE THING THAT MAKES BUTCHER WORTH PICKING AT ALL There are plenty of heroes that can recover from a losing early game and turn it around. Butcher's specific thing is landing early game ganks and balling out of control. If your Butcher fucks up his early game, and somehow still isn't hitting 200 BBQ by level 20 you are hosed It takes a long rear end time to hit 20. If any hero hasn't finished a level 1 quest by level 20 they are dead weight. Butcher is a special case where that's 300% true.
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ToxicToast posted:Pushing/Soaking builds still work often in QM because people are so focused on team fights. I have seen plenty of matches with a abby or azmo slowly pushing to victory while my team or the enemy team barely bats an eye at them. This is the Dumb Trick. If it works, you can win even if your 4 teamates are worse than Beginner bots. You can single handedly win the actual match while your team loses 4v5 objectives and the enemy team ignores pushes. I've done this plenty with Abathur and Zagara. Probably still works with Sylvanas too. If you push during an objective and they don't respond, GO HAM. You will reach their core with no issue. Worst case scenario, they realize you are soloing core and then your team wins the mid/late game objective that is much more powerful than the early game wins. I've enjoyed playing mine build Abathur recently. I think it is one of his worst builds, but it excels against predictable players. With certain maps, you can place your mines with devastating accuracy to completely shut down gankers, and you get to force the best players on the enemy team (who are first to show up to objectives) and make them retreat/hearth when the poo poo starts to hit the fan. Any time a runner dies from your mines is the most satisfying kill ever.
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I said words once upon a time about MMR Hell and unless something has drastically changed (not likely) they're still accurateKith posted:I've been leveling a smurf for the sole purpose of being able to play Cho'Gall with an amusingly inappropriate name. In doing so, I have been reminded how awful incredibly awful it is to labor away in the MMR Mines, and I am here to share with you all some things I've learned/relearned:
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I find this pretty accurate pre platinum another strategy is figuring out who is the worst player on the team and repeatedly murdering them so that their team is always one person down when fighting for objectives. What you said also means playing anything but damage or certain tanks tends to lead to a MMR drop.
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Aug 26, 2020 18:04
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WITCHCRAFT posted:This is the Dumb Trick. If it works, you can win even if your 4 teamates are worse than Beginner bots. You can single handedly win the actual match while your team loses 4v5 objectives and the enemy team ignores pushes. I've done this plenty with Abathur and Zagara. Probably still works with Sylvanas too. If you push during an objective and they don't respond, GO HAM. You will reach their core with no issue. Worst case scenario, they realize you are soloing core and then your team wins the mid/late game objective that is much more powerful than the early game wins. Been playing Murky a lot recently and generally winning from massive experience leads while mostly ignoring what's going on with the rest of the map. With Zagara enemies will at least try to force you out of lane occasionally, with Abathur maybe a stealth hero will make it behind the wall and kill you, with Murky nobody ever wants to deal with you because it feels like a waste of time then they end up so far behind on levels that it's impossible to come back. Add in consistently bribing camps on their side of the map and it almost feels like cheating at low ranks.
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Aug 27, 2020 20:51
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Smurfing with a murky is legit therapeutic
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Aug 28, 2020 20:16
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Rexicon1 posted:Smurfing with a murky is legit therapeutic gently caress off, smurfing is a lovely thing to do.
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Aug 29, 2020 01:01
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SirSamVimes posted:gently caress off, smurfing is a lovely thing to do. So is playing Murky, but there's no way to stop people from doing either of them. 
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Aug 29, 2020 01:12
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Nah playing Murky is fine, intentionally getting queued against people below your skill level is not.
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This game still has matchmaking? I assumed it was desperately trying to find 10 people on the same planet at this point That Tyrande heal buff looked significant but she still feels pretty feast or famine.
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