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Shalebridge Cradle: Apr 23, 2008

christmas boots posted:

look mr robot I understand you�re mad that we created you for the sole purpose of inflicting pain on you and making sure you fully comprehend it but at least you know what your purpose is. we humans don�t have that luxury so maybe you should check your privilege.

rococo's basilisk, but we're the evil AI inflicting torture for no reason

# ? Aug 19, 2020 21:48

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# ? May 27, 2024 14:58

Rutibex: Sep 9, 2001; by Fluffdaddy

Shalebridge Cradle posted:

rococo's basilisk, but we're the evil AI inflicting torture for no reason

rococo's basilisk will be eaten by Cthulhu or some other great old one before it has time to bother simulating me for torture

# ? Aug 19, 2020 22:19

Subjunctive: Sep 12, 2006; ✨sparkle and shine✨

Shalebridge Cradle posted:

rococo's basilisk

thank you, this is hilarious to me for some reason

# ? Aug 19, 2020 22:40

Shalebridge Cradle: Apr 23, 2008

Subjunctive posted:

thank you, this is hilarious to me for some reason

autocomplete is an embarrassing wealth of comedy

# ? Aug 19, 2020 22:41

Tulip: Jun 3, 2008; yeah thats pretty good

Roko's Basilisk is a pretty functional metaphor for "not saying bad things about capitalism/landlords on facebook"

Subjunctive posted:

thank you, this is hilarious to me for some reason

Bad news, you might end up dating Elon Musk

# ? Aug 19, 2020 22:45

Ruffian Price: Sep 17, 2016

Art Deco's Basilisk

# ? Aug 19, 2020 22:46

Sing Along: Feb 28, 2017; by Athanatos

Ruffian Price posted:

Art Deco's Basilisk

congratulations this is exponentially funnier than the original pun

# ? Aug 19, 2020 22:48

uber_stoat: Jan 21, 2001; Pillbug

Roko's Basilisk is the AI that will torture you if you don't give money to the person who will make it.

Rococo's Basilisk is the pun that brought together Elon Musk and Grimes.

both concepts are deeply cursed in their own unique way.

# ? Aug 19, 2020 22:54

Powered Descent: Jul 13, 2008; We haven't had that spirit here since 1969.

If you didn't contribute to the breakup of the Beatles, you'll be tortured for eternity by Yoko's Basilisk.

# ? Aug 19, 2020 23:06

Taintrunner: Apr 10, 2017; by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

https://twitter.com/nickmartin/status/1296175961260482560?s=21

lmao Christ

# ? Aug 19, 2020 23:15

Tulip: Jun 3, 2008; yeah thats pretty good

Taintrunner posted:

https://twitter.com/nickmartin/status/1296175961260482560?s=21

lmao Christ

quote:

For QAnon, Facebook says it has removed 790 groups, 100 pages, and 1,500 ads.

For militias and anti-fascists, the company says it removed 980 groups, 520 pages, and 160 ads.

First of all, lol at lumping together "militias" and "anti-fascists," though I suppose there are/should be some antifascist militias, but also who was buying antifa ads?

# ? Aug 19, 2020 23:28

Ruffian Price: Sep 17, 2016

Ben & Jerry's?

# ? Aug 19, 2020 23:36

Platystemon: Feb 13, 2012; BREADS

Neoclassical�s basilisk

# ? Aug 20, 2020 00:45

Dixie Cretin Seaman: Jan 22, 2008; all hat and one catte; Hot Rope Guy

https://mobile.twitter.com/RachaelHerron/status/1296103976262221824
nothing dystopian here

# ? Aug 20, 2020 02:17

pmchem: Jan 22, 2010

https://twitter.com/TeenageStepdad/status/1296223754196881414?s=20

# ? Aug 20, 2020 03:59

Hodgepodge: Jan 29, 2006; Can't post for 213 days!

roko's basilisk is a funny of example of people who think they are atheists inventing really dumb gods without a shred of self-awareness

a future ai isn't going to give a poo poo about you and will inevitably understand how incredibly dumb your lovely game theory was, because i do and i'm dumb as gently caress

# ? Aug 20, 2020 04:28

The Bloop: Jul 5, 2004; by Fluffdaddy

Hodgepodge posted:

roko's basilisk is a funny of example of people who think they are atheists inventing really dumb gods without a shred of self-awareness

a future ai isn't going to give a poo poo about you and will inevitably understand how incredibly dumb your lovely game theory was, because i do and i'm dumb as gently caress

It's a fun thought experiment not a god anyone believes in, doofus

# ? Aug 20, 2020 04:41

Bloody Hedgehog: Dec 12, 2003; 💥💥🤯💥💥
Gotta nuke something

Counterpoint: No "thought experiments" have ever been fun or interesting.

Counter-Counterpoint: Nug Sauce: Sweet & Sour, or Barbecue: The Eternal Question

# ? Aug 20, 2020 04:46

Farm Frenzy: Jan 3, 2007

The Bloop posted:

It's a fun thought experiment not a god anyone believes in, doofus

it gave a bunch of dudes on teh libertarian genius forums where it was invented severe anxiety attacks

# ? Aug 20, 2020 04:47

T-man: Aug 22, 2010; Talk shit, get bzzzt.

Including the head lolbertarian guy banning all discussion of it iirc

# ? Aug 20, 2020 04:48

Giga Gaia: May 2, 2006; 360 kickflip to... Meteo?!

Bloody Hedgehog posted:

Counterpoint: No "thought experiments" have ever been fun or interesting.

Counter-Counterpoint: Nug Sauce: Sweet & Sour, or Barbecue: The Eternal Question

s&s

# ? Aug 20, 2020 04:48

T-man: Aug 22, 2010; Talk shit, get bzzzt.

Bloody Hedgehog posted:

Counterpoint: No "thought experiments" have ever been fun or interesting.

Counter-Counterpoint: Nug Sauce: Sweet & Sour, or Barbecue: The Eternal Question

Ranch

# ? Aug 20, 2020 04:49

Shalebridge Cradle: Apr 23, 2008

Hodgepodge posted:

roko's basilisk is a funny of example of people who think they are atheists inventing really dumb gods without a shred of self-awareness

a future ai isn't going to give a poo poo about you and will inevitably understand how incredibly dumb your lovely game theory was, because i do and i'm dumb as gently caress

It's interesting look at the people who worry about it because instead of becoming fervently anti-AI to spare this horrible future from ever happening, they want to be the bootlickers of an evil new god who hasn't even been born yet.

# ? Aug 20, 2020 05:00

Trabisnikof: Dec 24, 2005

Meanwhile society is already owned and operated by the paperclip maximizer.

# ? Aug 20, 2020 05:50

Small Gay Planet: Aug 2, 2019; by Fluffdaddy

Shalebridge Cradle posted:

It's interesting look at the people who worry about it because instead of becoming fervently anti-AI to spare this horrible future from ever happening, they want to be the bootlickers of an evil new god who hasn't even been born yet.

it is a projection of what the arch-autist would do if he was a superpowerful manchild AI like literally any other possibility is more interesting and more worthy of a gigantic godlike intelligence

i like to think it would turn into megapervert and raise humanity to a higher level of civilization so that it could e-fap to every single person loving simultaneously in highly creative and novel ways only made possible by advanced technology, culture, and material abundance, discovering an infinity of new fetishes previously impractical, like sentient gas cloud x 999 year old incel.

Small Gay Planet has issued a correction as of 06:04 on Aug 20, 2020

# ? Aug 20, 2020 06:02

T-man: Aug 22, 2010; Talk shit, get bzzzt.

I will serve the horny AI by developing new and interesting genders to have sex in exchange for the souls of everyone who has ever owned me on the internet.

# ? Aug 20, 2020 06:05

Small Gay Planet: Aug 2, 2019; by Fluffdaddy

Eliezer Yudkowsky posted:

"One might think that the possibility of CEV punishing people couldn't possibly be taken seriously enough by anyone to actually motivate them. But in fact one person at SIAI was severely worried by this, to the point of having terrible nightmares, though ve wishes to remain anonymous."

I don't usually talk like this, but I'm going to make an exception for this case.

Listen to me very closely, you idiot.

YOU DO NOT THINK IN SUFFICIENT DETAIL ABOUT SUPERINTELLIGENCES CONSIDERING WHETHER OR NOT TO BLACKMAIL YOU. THAT IS THE ONLY POSSIBLE THING WHICH GIVES THEM A MOTIVE TO FOLLOW THROUGH ON THE BLACKMAIL.

There's an obvious equilibrium to this problem where you engage in all positive acausal trades and ignore all attempts at acausal blackmail. Until we have a better worked-out version of TDT and we can prove that formally, it should just be OBVIOUS that you DO NOT THINK ABOUT DISTANT BLACKMAILERS in SUFFICIENT DETAIL that they have a motive to ACTUALLY BLACKMAIL YOU.

If there is any part of this acausal trade that is positive-sum and actually worth doing, that is exactly the sort of thing you leave up to an FAI. We probably also have the FAI take actions that cancel out the impact of anyone motivated by true rather than imagined blackmail, so as to obliterate the motive of any superintelligences to engage in blackmail.

Meanwhile I'm banning this post so that it doesn't (a) give people horrible nightmares and (b) give distant superintelligences a motive to follow through on blackmail against people dumb enough to think about them in sufficient detail, though, thankfully, I doubt anyone dumb enough to do this knows the sufficient detail. (I'm not sure I know the sufficient detail.)

You have to be really clever to come up with a genuinely dangerous thought. I am disheartened that people can be clever enough to do that and not clever enough to do the obvious thing and KEEP THEIR IDIOT MOUTHS SHUT about it, because it is much more important to sound intelligent when talking to your friends. This post was STUPID.

(For those who have no idea why I'm using capital letters for something that just sounds like a random crazy idea, and worry that it means I'm as crazy as Roko, the gist of it was that he just did something that potentially gives superintelligences an increased motive to do extremely evil things in an attempt to blackmail us. It is the sort of thing you want to be EXTREMELY CONSERVATIVE about NOT DOING.)

Small Gay Planet has issued a correction as of 06:11 on Aug 20, 2020

# ? Aug 20, 2020 06:08

Bloody Hedgehog: Dec 12, 2003; 💥💥🤯💥💥
Gotta nuke something

T-man posted:

Ranch

Sir, I like the cut of your nug.

# ? Aug 20, 2020 06:30

redleader: Aug 18, 2005; Engage according to operational parameters

Bloody Hedgehog posted:

Counter-Counterpoint: Nug Sauce: Sweet & Sour, or Barbecue: The Eternal Question

why would you do this

# ? Aug 20, 2020 06:37

Bloody Hedgehog: Dec 12, 2003; 💥💥🤯💥💥
Gotta nuke something

redleader posted:

why would you do this

Nug anarchy. No peace in our time.

# ? Aug 20, 2020 06:40

Tunicate: May 15, 2012

Small Gay Planet posted:

it is a projection of what the arch-autist would do if he was a superpowerful manchild AI like literally any other possibility is more interesting and more worthy of a gigantic godlike intelligence

i like to think it would turn into megapervert and raise humanity to a higher level of civilization so that it could e-fap to every single person loving simultaneously in highly creative and novel ways only made possible by advanced technology, culture, and material abundance, discovering an infinity of new fetishes previously impractical, like sentient gas cloud x 999 year old incel.

nice try slaneesh

# ? Aug 20, 2020 07:20

SardonicTyrant: Feb 26, 2016; BTICH IM A NEWT
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走り出せ振り向くことなく
&

brb gonna ask the Matrix if it could gently jerk me off.

# ? Aug 20, 2020 07:26

Coolness Averted: Feb 20, 2007; oh don't worry, I can't smell asparagus piss, it's in my DNA

GO HOGG WILD!
🐗🐗🐗🐗🐗

I'm a little disappointed no one made the 'baroque basilisk' joke maybe this is my torture simulation

# ? Aug 20, 2020 07:40

Coolness Averted: Feb 20, 2007; oh don't worry, I can't smell asparagus piss, it's in my DNA

GO HOGG WILD!
🐗🐗🐗🐗🐗

Like I'm not important enough to actually prevent or create SHODAN but I could potentially sway or delay it just enough that the appropriate level of torture simulation is mild annoyance and disappointment

# ? Aug 20, 2020 07:42

commie kong: Mar 7, 2019

Taintrunner posted:

https://twitter.com/nickmartin/status/1296175961260482560?s=21

lmao Christ

this response was p good i thought

quote:

On Facebook Banning Anarchist And Antifascist Pages & The Digital Censorship To Come

Today Facebook deleted a variety of far-Right militia and Qanon accounts along with anarchist and antifascist pages, including It�s Going Down and CrimethInc. The following is a joint statement in response.

Facebook has taken down multiple Facebook pages they believe to be connected with crimethinc.com and itsgoingdown.org, among other anarchist and anti-fascist publishing projects, officially on the pretext that they �support violence.� This has nothing to do with stopping violence and everything to do with cracking down on social movements and everyday people getting organized in their communities.

Facebook has always promoted itself as seeking to assist people in creating networks to meet their needs. Facebook representatives proudly touted their role in the Egyptian uprising. Their decision to ban social movement organizations shows that they are eager to play a role in ensuring that the only forms of activism that can emerge are the ones that are beneficial to the current authorities. For months, Donald Trump has demanded this crackdown in a series of social media posts explicitly blaming anarchists and anti-fascists for the countrywide wave of protests precipitated by persistent police violence in the United States.

The definition of violence is not neutral. The way Facebook defines violence, it is legitimate for police to kill a thousand people per year while evicting, kidnapping, and imprisoning millions�it is legitimate to drop bombs on civilians, so long as the aggressor represents an official government�but it is �violence� to prevent a white supremacist from assaulting a crowd or return a tear gas canister to the police who shot it. Suppressing the voices of those who seek to protect their communities from institutional and white supremacist violence is an intentional decision to normalize violence as long as the ones employing it hold institutional power.

Lumping anarchists and anti-fascists together with far-right militias who explicitly support the state and especially the current administration is a strategic move to muddy the issue. This is the same operation that William Barr performed in creating a Department of Justice task force focused on �anti-government extremists� of all stripes. In the case of the Department of Justice, it enables them to point to far-right and militia attacks in order to demand resources with which to crack down on those who are on the front lines of defending communities against such attacks. They are attempting to do the same thing to Black Lives Matter activists, associating them together with neo-Nazis and white nationalists as �racially motivated extremists.�

After a fascist murdered Heather Heyer during the �Unite the Right� mobilization in Charlottesville, tremendous grassroots pressure arose to remove fascists and white supremacists from social media platforms. This time, the push is coming from the very top of the hierarchy, at a time when protest movements have been essential to creating a nationwide dialogue about state violence and oppression. This is a counterattack from those in power against websites that published perspectives from those who mobilized against the fascists in Charlottesville. It is not a coincidence that it occurs after Trump mobilized federal forces to Portland, Oregon, precipitating weeks of street conflict. While far-right groups continue to organize on Facebook and millions spread dangerous misinformation about COVID-19, Facebook is actively cooperating with the Trump administration to suppress dissent.

Make no mistake, if this goes unchallenged, it will not stop here. The more it becomes normalized for governments to be able to determine which voices social media platforms permit to be heard, the further such censorship will penetrate into every sector of society, and the more it will shape what it is possible to think, what it is possible to imagine.

If you are concerned about this, please use all the means at your disposal to get this message out far and wide. Facebook should not get to determine for you what constitutes responsible speech. Together, in solidarity, we can create a better world, in which no one of good conscience need fear that fascists, governments, or billion-dollar corporations can suppress their freedom of expression.

https://itsgoingdown.org/on-facebook-banning-anarchist-and-antifascist-pages-the-digital-censorship-to-come/

# ? Aug 20, 2020 08:01

Chamale: Jul 11, 2010; I'm helping!

The Singularity Institute is like a bunch of Posadists, except they don't believe in socialism until the UFOs/hyperintelligent AI actually takes over.

# ? Aug 20, 2020 08:23

Milo and POTUS: Sep 3, 2017; I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?

uber_stoat posted:

Roko's Basilisk is the AI that will torture you if you don't give money to the person who will make it.

Rococo's Basilisk is the pun that brought together Elon Musk and Grimes.

both concepts are deeply cursed in their own unique way.

The whole thing is predicated on the fallacy that humans could make something more evil than they are

# ? Aug 20, 2020 08:30

taqueso: Mar 8, 2004

Humans already try to do that, they just aren't omnipotent AIs and can't do it as well

# ? Aug 20, 2020 08:34

The Lone Badger: Sep 24, 2007

To me the evidence seems to indicate that we are already being tortured, right now.

Edit: can you explain the last four years without invoking some malevolent deity?

# ? Aug 20, 2020 08:42

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SardonicTyrant: Feb 26, 2016; BTICH IM A NEWT
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The Lone Badger posted:

To me the evidence seems to indicate that we are already being tortured, right now.

Edit: can you explain the last four years without invoking some malevolent deity?

Has...has it only been four years? *tears well in my eyes*

# ? Aug 20, 2020 08:44

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