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cant cook creole bream posted:I know the appearance is highly customized, but this just makes it sound like a woman in her early thirties has lead a full life and can be discarded, which is a bit weird, honestly. When you were 14, did 30 seem SUPER OLD and as though your life would be OVER? I suspect we're getting a 14 year old's picture of what aging looks like. Note how the ages of the Norns were different depending on the viewer. Anja's view of the Norns had Verthandi a little older than Anja looks currently.
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Mraagvpeine posted:Is there a reason why Skuld doesn't talk? something future is unknown something
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Disappointed we don't see a couple Norn versions of Brinnie in the ZAM panel.
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All I can think is that I hope Anja gets her coffee table back.
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Well at least now we know why phone repair services are so expensive, they have to send it to another plane of existence.
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Prediction: the post chapter page will be Anja sadly realizing that they left her coffee table in another dimension
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Toddler Kat/Skuld is still adorable. I guess the transmitter is getting upgraded to send signals back in time?
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Dr Subterfuge posted:Toddler Kat/Skuld is still adorable. I guess the transmitter is getting upgraded to send signals back in time? Adding unlimited nights and weekends to her plan.
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Warmachine posted:Adding unlimited nights and weekends to her plan. Getting her signed up for NornVPN.
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dragon enthusiast posted:Inspiration flashes and Kat shifts a version of herself from another universe so she can both spend time with Paz and get into hijinx with Annies "Actually, I was hoping you would take my timeline's Paz."
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Fecha posted:Prediction: the post chapter page will be Anja sadly realizing that they left her coffee table in another dimension I'd be pretty hype if my coffee table were taken by the Fates. I'd brag about that sort of thing to visitors. They'd probably assume I broke the table.
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Donkringel posted:Getting her signed up for NornVPN. SensibleChuckle.gif
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What happens if you drink from the time stream?
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Fecha posted:Prediction: the post chapter page will be Anja sadly realizing that they left her coffee table in another dimension
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Well, that moved a lot faster than I thought it would.
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out of context it's pretty funny the norns are just handing over powers over time like it's nothing but as they're not fixed in time they probably know every instance of kat that's ever existed and she's as familiar as a constant friend
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Yeah, so wait... Kat gets to go see the norns because she invented time travel birds, but then it turns out they just give her the ability to do the time travel and her invention had nothing to do with it?
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She's apparently set to become a deity whose mother has a mutual acquaintance in another deity. It's just networking and favours. Whether or not she made it capable of time travel (which is impossible, by the way), it's still her robot bird and what it does is more part of her own legend than anyone else's. maswastaken fucked around with this message at 13:53 on Aug 21, 2020 |
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My guess is she did the time travel thing on her own once, or in some other way proved herself worthy, and in all other variations the norns are just "it's cool kat's cool"
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Splicer posted:My guess is she did the time travel thing on her own once, or in some other way proved herself worthy, and in all other variations the norns are just "it's cool kat's cool" Or all of this is predestined. Everything that will happen has happened and everything that has happened will happen. Nothing is unaccounted for, and the start and endpoints are arbitrary. I've always favored a no-free-will interpretation of time, where no one has a choice in their actions, but this is fundamentally irrelevant because we can't perceive outcomes to be anything other than what they appear to be--or rather, we can't see outside the system. I kinda wonder if Tom might be going in this direction with how casually people in the know are treating time travel. It makes sense for it to be NBD if any shenanigans are part of the larger plan. (Coincidentally, I think it would explain a lack of time travelers, because most people who learn that knowledge would probably be stricken by a deep sense of ennui knowing that everything they do from that point on has already been done. Most would probably want to forget they ever learned the secret, which the universe obliges because that's how the whole thing was written. It would take an exceptionally strong will to know that everything you will ever do is predestined, and then keep going and acting your part in the play.)
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Or it's just a really convenient way to stop her from developing time travel independent of their power.
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I did not expect the time stream to be so literal.
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Warmachine posted:Or all of this is predestined. Everything that will happen has happened and everything that has happened will happen. Nothing is unaccounted for, and the start and endpoints are arbitrary. Tom usually has a pretty clever twist on many of these concepts, so I'm going to guess it won't be as clear-cut as just "yeah everything is fate" My prediction is that everyone has free will, but ALSO everything is predetermined. So like, you have free will and can do whatever you choose! But you will always choose to do the exact same thing, so it's sort of like everything is set in stone! So there's some reasoning why / how you can't know what you'll do in advance, so there's no way you can do something different. There could maybe be some ether poo poo too, like the future is "fake" that is created by the ether based on what each and every person connected to it plans to do. So if you can somehow see the future and decide to change it, then the future literally changes to have "always have been" how it will be based on this change. Sort of like how Coyote put the stars in the sky, or how Jones came to be.
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Rand Brittain posted:Or it's just a really convenient way to stop her from developing time travel independent of their power.
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Imagine four Annies on the edge of a bridge
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It wouldn't surprise me if every time she's done a time travel it's been about the same. Here it was urged by Annie to talk to Anja who brings in Bryn who takes her to the Norns but I can easilyt see the "first" time line having her get in such a funk that she just brings it up to Anja on her own who then brings in Bryn who takes her to the Norns who gives her time travel access just like we saw here
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The Norns gave Kt time travel powers because she visits the Norns a lot because the Norns gave Kat time travel powers because she visits the Norns a lot because the Norns gave Kat time travel powers because she visits the Norns a lot [...] Like seems pretty cut and dry to me.
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Well this is deus ex machina as gently caress Not sure I love how casual they are about handing out time travel
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They're casually handing time travel to Kat because they already know Kat can be trusted with time travel because they already know future Kat who has proven she can be trusted with time travel. It's causal loop 101, people. 
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Wyld Karde posted:They're casually handing time travel to Kat because they already know Kat can be trusted with time travel because they already know future Kat who has proven she can be trusted with time travel.
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Wyld Karde posted:They're casually handing time travel to Kat because they already know Kat can be trusted with time travel because they already know future Kat who has proven she can be trusted with time travel. They are aware of Roko's basilisk and know that it's their best interest to help Kat anyway they can.
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CJacobs posted:Imagine four Annies on the edge of a bridge 
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Here’s a short story about determinism and time travel: What’s Expected Of Us by Ted Chiang
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maswastaken posted:There is no loop for the Norns. Kat visits Norns, Kat does important thing(s) with the time stream. Neither event or iteration thereof happens in any particular order, in the Norns' persepctive. Ah, the wormhole prophets perception of temporal reality. I can see that. Well, as much as a meatbag bound to a linear and subjective experience of time can see it.
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Inglonias posted:What happens if you drink from the time stream? You suddenly have to pee yesterday
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If anyone itt hasn't read Slaughterhouse-Five, you should go read it. It's a genuinely excellent book, both as a sci-fi story and as Proper Literature. And it's pretty short and accessible, imo. For those who have read it, well, the Norns' perspective on time is very familiar, wouldn't you say? They see Kat as a long four-dimensional worm with baby Kat at one end and corpse Kat at the other. So it goes.
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"What happened the first time?" "Why, that's when you built us!"
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"What happened the first time?" "Well the good news is that, from a certain perspective, all those people are alive and well."
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The Norns about to dunk Kat into the Time Stream.
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