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Bored As gently caress posted:We really do need a federal service of firefighters. Pay them well. It'd be a great jobs program, and they can be deployed anywhere in the country where big fires happen. Get 5 or 10 thousand of em. Put them under the Department of the Interior or something and have them coordinate with FEMA and the states. Untagged posted:The Department of Agriculture (Forest Service) has about 10 thousand full, part-time, or reserve wildland fire fighters just on it's own. The DOI has some too, but more based on the local agency level like Parks, BIA, etc. A lot of those guys are on some type of task force and routinely get assignments all over the country. a friend of mine recently became a firefighter with the US Forestry Service and he said he makes $13/hr with a $1.25/hr bonus when he's actually fighting a fire. 
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Basticle posted:a friend of mine recently became a firefighter with the US Forestry Service and he said he makes $13/hr with a $1.25/hr bonus when he's actually fighting a fire. what the gently caress
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Hot Karl Marx posted:what the gently caress The bulk of their earnings come from OT, which you get a LOT of when you're working a fire. Of course, the downside is that if there aren't any fires going on, you're making a hell of a less.
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Acebuckeye13 posted:The bulk of their earnings come from OT, which you get a LOT of when you're working a fire. Of course, the downside is that if there aren't any fires going on, you're making a hell of a less.
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Basticle posted:a friend of mine recently became a firefighter with the US Forestry Service and he said he makes $13/hr with a $1.25/hr bonus when he's actually fighting a fire. You might die protecting others and also the work is hard as gently caress. Here’s a pittance. Even with OT that’s only up to “ok” wages.
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Hot Karl Marx posted:what the gently caress Firefighter pay isn't amazing. The Feds tend to pay a lot less than local departments but local departments have a bunch of hosed up pay issues due to the existence of volunteer departments. EMTs tend to be paid even worse.
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Lol de Blasio somehow thinks that if he kisses some blue rear end now and then the cop union won't go after him like a black man with a wallet.
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CRUSTY MINGE posted:Speaking of fires, Pikes Peak has a wildfire going on it now. Smoky as gently caress out here. Luckily it was only 1/10th of an acre and was fully contained this afternoon. All this smoke is from California and Pine Gulch & Grizzly Peak. SeaborneClink fucked around with this message at 00:49 on Aug 22, 2020 |
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Basticle posted:a friend of mine recently became a firefighter with the US Forestry Service and he said he makes $13/hr with a $1.25/hr bonus when he's actually fighting a fire. One of the issues is the USFS firefighting program was essentially designed and based on a seasonal need with seasonal employment of firefighters. Along with that came a "seasonal" employee type federal pay scale. Nowadays they routinely hire "seasonal" firefighters that basically become full-time for a year or more. With the modern year-round fire season they will likely have to, at some point, reevaluate the program, positions, and pay consistent with real full-time positions in the fed.
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Untagged posted:One of the issues is the USFS firefighting program was essentially designed and based on a seasonal need with seasonal employment of firefighters. Along with that came a "seasonal" employee type federal pay scale. Nowadays they routinely hire "seasonal" firefighters that basically become full-time for a year or more. With the modern year-round fire season they will likely have to, at some point, reevaluate the program, positions, and pay consistent with real full-time positions in the fed. "Who's going to pay for that" - noted lolbertarian rear end in a top hat Rand Paul
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Woof. https://twitter.com/BrandyZadrozny/status/1296893426370318336 WOOOOOOOF https://twitter.com/BenWinslow/status/1296916329652301824
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facialimpediment posted:Woof. Rep. Romero looked it up and withdrew from participation. She said her friend however is still adamant that it's not a QAnon front.
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Rip if only crazy people can rage about kiddie diddlers then all people who rage against kiddy diddlers can be classified as crazy.
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I can't believe I'm saying this, but the mass proliferation of this Qanon poo poo makes me miss the simpler days of Alex Jones.
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KirbyKhan posted:Rip if only crazy people can rage about kiddie diddlers then all people who rage against kiddy diddlers can be classified as crazy. Apparently QAnon morons are bombarding the Human Trafficking Hotline and the National Human Trafficking Hotline with memes and other BS in order to prevent people from accessing it, because they think that Wayfair is part of the baby-eating satanic cult. https://twitter.com/oneunderscore__/status/1296902916222189570?s=20 Meanwhile, the people who run the programs are simply begging for people to stop wasting their time with meme calls so they can actually help people orange juche fucked around with this message at 02:08 on Aug 22, 2020 |
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orange juche posted:Apparently QAnon morons are enrolling the Human Trafficking Hotline and the National Human Trafficking Hotline in Wayfair robocalls and other BS in order to prevent people from accessing it, because they think that those phone numbers are fronts for the baby-eating satanic cult. And there'll be no consequences for what is likely an illegal act because the president believes them.
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SeaborneClink posted:Luckily it was only 1/10th of an acre and was fully contained this afternoon. All this smoke is from California and Pine Gulch & Grizzly Peak. Ah, okay. I only heard about it at weed work, so I didn't realize it was out already. It's been smokey all week anyhow.
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Kazinsal posted:And there'll be no consequences for what is likely an illegal act because the president believes them. I corrected my post, they're not enrolling the numbers in robocalls (also illegal) they're calling in bullshit meme fake calls because they think Wayfair is trafficking children in dressers and poo poo.
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The scary thing about qanon is that the majority of the public that is not extremely online is still just making fun of them rather than treating them like the serious threat that they are.
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Fister Roboto posted:The scary thing about qanon is that the majority of the public that is not extremely online is still just making fun of them rather than treating them like the serious threat that they are. A lot of people are getting sucked in by the "well you want to protect children right?" because the QAnon rallies are hiding their QAnon-ness in order to recruit regular people to their psycho cult. Kinda like boiling a frog, they get pulled in by the saving the children stuff, and then fall into the deep end of Washington DC pizza parlors with secret sex dungeons and poo poo.
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CRUSTY MINGE posted:Ah, okay. I only heard about it at weed work, so I didn't realize it was out already.  It's bad though, for sure.
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Basticle posted:a friend of mine recently became a firefighter with the US Forestry Service and he said he makes $13/hr with a $1.25/hr bonus when he's actually fighting a fire. Jesus loving Christ. Those people should get paid a $45k-$55k starting salary, depending on location. How the gently caress are they risking their lives for such poo poo pay?
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Bored As gently caress posted:Jesus loving Christ. Those people should get paid a $45k-$55k starting salary, depending on location. I made 17k a year when we invaded Iraq in 2003. This whole subforum is full of idiots who risked their lives for peanuts.
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Turns out it's really easy to take advantage of people when you appeal to a higher sense of purpose, who knew.
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Great news all around folks. I should have stayed in bed
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I'll do you one better:  It's even hazier in person. Time will tell if it'll get thick enough you can't see the other side, which I have seen happen.
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SeaborneClink posted:
I couldn't see Pikes Peak from I-25 today. That's pretty bad.
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Yeah, I was at work in the middle of town and could only make out the mountains from the smoke with sunglasses on, but just barely.
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shame on an IGA posted:I mean hell this screenshot is from 20 seconds ago A White Guy had some great stories.
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QAnon assholes are coming out of the woodwork since Trump made his comments.
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