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Dr. Video Games 0135 posted:Bioshock Infinite has value as a sort of museum of lovely design choices that were all the rage in 2013 It's literally just cargo culting halo
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Lodin posted:The best song from any game is the moon one from Ducktales. Don't @ me. You're not wrong, then again there is so much awesome stuff that was created back then... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fvha_2hAzq0&t=9s Also Danny Baranowsky is kinda the current-gen-retro(???) Chris Hülsbeck
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Aug 22, 2020 09:20
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food court bailiff posted:I can’t remember the last time I had as much fun in an RPG as the first boss fight against the scorpion robot thing Man that finicky fight and then the escape sequence in the demo where you can run straight back up but it won't let you leave before fighting every last dude in the building killed any and all interest I had in the game.
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Aug 22, 2020 10:18
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The two weapons thing was a novel idea when Halo did it because people were used to carrying around entire arsenals in first person games. Like, when you found the shotgun you ALWAYS had a shotgun to use. But in Halo you had to make a choice between the shotgun and the rocketlauncher. It was lauded as a new strategic layer, forcing the player to think a bit more about their weapon options. Since Halo was popular as hell, every other shooter started limiting its arsenal as well until it became a new standard, just like with regenerating health/shields. That's why I was happy when Half-Life 2 came out and I could finally carry all the weapons again. It's clearly the superior way.
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Aug 22, 2020 11:18
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QuarkJets posted:The best 3D Zelda game is The Witcher 3 Nah, it's the Zelda 2 remake titled "Shadow of the Colossus."
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Aug 22, 2020 11:27
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Turok got a really cute looking game called Turok in Dinosaur Valley a few years back that despite having a unique art style I don't think anyone bought or played so Im not willing to commit money to it to find out if its good or not. You do know you hosed up as a dev when you have to have in your trailer a confirmation your game named "Turok" is related to the Turok property because it looks absolutely nothing like what people are expecting.
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Aug 22, 2020 11:30
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Fartbox posted:The two weapons thing was a novel idea when Halo did it because people were used to carrying around entire arsenals in first person games. Like, when you found the shotgun you ALWAYS had a shotgun to use. But in Halo you had to make a choice between the shotgun and the rocketlauncher. It was lauded as a new strategic layer, forcing the player to think a bit more about their weapon options. Feels like the entertainment industry does this every decade where something innovative and popular comes out and then everything else in the universe has to copy random elements of it trying to create success via proxy without even trying to understand how it fits into the bigger picture. The video game industry in particular tends to have every single AAA western game be the exact same genre for a decade.
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Aug 22, 2020 11:47
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As a lovely pedant it really grinds my gears how Halo actually had lore justifications for why the player had a regenerating shield, the power to punch harder than a shotgun blast and flip a Jeep with one hand but then every game borrowing ideas from it was just WOW COOL MECHANICS!
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Aug 22, 2020 11:54
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Barudak posted:Turok got a really cute looking game called Turok in Dinosaur Valley a few years back that despite having a unique art style I don't think anyone bought or played so Im not willing to commit money to it to find out if its good or not. Looks like it's based on 1950s turok.
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Aug 22, 2020 12:53
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Ghost Leviathan posted:It's literally just cargo culting halo Yeah, between that and the regenerating shields it smacks of some idiotic executive demands. I think they were planning to make it ~*Open World*~ too which is why most of the game is weird sprawling combat arenas Dr. Video Games 0135 fucked around with this message at 17:36 on Aug 22, 2020 |
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Aug 22, 2020 17:33
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Ghost Leviathan posted:It's literally just cargo culting halo except the combat in halo is actually good and engaging. In Infinite, it's very scripted, mechanical, and the enemies are bullet sponges.
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Aug 22, 2020 18:28
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Aug 22, 2020 18:31
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Ugh. Another generic videogame protagonist.
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Aug 22, 2020 18:34
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Last of Us Part 2 was mediocre but at least it gave us dumb, fun memes  
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Aug 22, 2020 18:39
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You know why I love Arkane Studios? It's the surprise factor in what resolution the game launches today. Start Prey or Dishonored2 like you did yesterday with the settings you love? Who knows, might do 640x480 today just for laughs. Might do something waaaaay bigger to completely crop out the graphics settings menu lol
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Aug 22, 2020 18:41
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Kaiju Cage Match posted:Last of Us Part 2 was mediocre but at least it gave us dumb, fun memes I would love to know what the hell is going on at Naughty Dog because for over a decade now it feels like every game they’ve put out is really close to being amazingly fun and top-of-class but does something stupid to pratfall on its face to mediocrity
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Aug 22, 2020 18:42
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SweetMercifulCrap! posted:except the combat in halo is actually good and engaging. In Infinite, it's very scripted, mechanical, and the enemies are bullet sponges. That's what I mean, it has those features but there's no justification or purpose for them, they're just there because that's what the devs think shooters are now
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Aug 22, 2020 19:04
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fridge corn posted:It's amazing op. What's even more amazing is that it's actually fun to play, a feat not accomplished by square enix in over a decade or more isn't it the first game since ff13 where they told nomura that he had to buckle down and do his loving job as director instead of smashing disney nendroids together making kingdom sharts while his other projects languish lol
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Aug 22, 2020 20:02
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lol at the guy complaining about the first boss being finicky and the escape timer, though the first boss tells you repeatedly what to do, first during a friendly little tutorial popup, and then by the characters constantly yelling about it. yeah, you have to pay a modicum of attention and engage with the game instead of a bunch of menus, but it owns the timer’s lowest setting is 20 minutes and i had 14 minutes and 43 seconds left after escaping, and I doubled back in a couple areas to check for loot lol
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Aug 22, 2020 20:06
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food court bailiff posted:the timer’s lowest setting is 20 minutes and i had 14 minutes and 43 seconds left after escaping, and I doubled back in a couple areas to check for loot lol No I had the opposite problem, the game put a giant timer onscreen so I assumed it would actually be somewhat tight and tried to get the gently caress out asap and then ended up in the upper room with oodles of time to spare and the exit hatch plot-locked. Then every enemy I'd kited on the way there came swarming in and the camera had a seizure.
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Aug 22, 2020 20:26
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fridge corn posted:I'm glad I was too young for most NES games. I would hate to have any nostalgia for that era cuz those games are universally crap. True gaming didnt start until the 16bit era Yeah I just watched an LP of the original legend of zelda, seemed like it would be a very frustrating and not fun game to actually play. Link to these past its definitely my favorite though
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Aug 22, 2020 20:41
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I'm grateful to have an older sibling so that I never developed an urge to watch a 'let's play' video
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Aug 22, 2020 20:45
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is that muscular the cheat strong bad being hosed by the homestaw wunnew
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Aug 22, 2020 20:47
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i somehow had the music from mushroom hill zone of sonic and knuckles stuck in my head all day yesterday
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Aug 22, 2020 20:51
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Shibawanko posted:is that muscular the cheat strong bad being hosed by the homestaw wunnew I'm sure this means something in gamer speak but it's probably best to not delve too deep in to this poo poo
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Aug 22, 2020 20:52
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food court bailiff posted:i somehow had the music from mushroom hill zone of sonic and knuckles stuck in my head all day yesterday That reminds me, people complain about games now having all their quality levels front loaded since most people don’t finish games. It’s like, did you ever play Sonic? Those always had a really good first zone and then a nice downward spiral. Except for the game gear ones, which were just bad the whole time.
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Aug 22, 2020 20:53
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fridge corn posted:I'm glad I was too young for most NES games. I would hate to have any nostalgia for that era cuz those games are universally crap. True gaming didnt start until the 16bit era wtf stone this heathen
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Aug 22, 2020 20:57
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Icochet posted:I'm grateful to have an older sibling so that I never developed an urge to watch a 'let's play' video There's a flavor of lets play that I like sometimes that's basically funny personalities playing the game, like watching an mst3k or a rifftrax but with a video game. Chip and Ironicus are some goons that do this style really well, so I return to their channel from time to time not because I want to see someone play a video game but because I want to listen to two pretty chill dudes I don't have any siblings so I can't say whether that would have made a difference
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food court bailiff posted:lol at the guy complaining about the first boss being finicky and the escape timer, though Tbf the combat system in ff7r is fairly unique and specific in how it needs to be played which I'm not sure the game communicates effectively enough by the first boss. It gives you the tools and tells you what you're supposed to do with them, but leaves it up to the player to find the rhythm which requires a bit more time to figure out imo. The boss fights tend to be a bit overly long with many stages with scripted transitions and you won't realise this until you've beaten a few so the first few boss encounters can make the player feel like they're not playing effectively even if they actually are
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Aug 22, 2020 21:03
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QuarkJets posted:There's a flavor of lets play that I like sometimes that's basically funny personalities playing the game, like watching an mst3k or a rifftrax but with a video game. Chip and Ironicus are some goons that do this style really well, so I return to their channel from time to time not because I want to see someone play a video game but because I want to listen to two pretty chill dudes I'm a middle child. I watched my older sister play games, my little brother watched me play games. I sometimes watch Lets Plays, especially Kruggsmash lately. That guy is the best. Apparently this is contentious?
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Aug 22, 2020 21:06
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Ugly In The Morning posted:That reminds me, people complain about games now having all their quality levels front loaded since most people don’t finish games. It’s like, did you ever play Sonic? Those always had a really good first zone and then a nice downward spiral. i would put in another asterisk for noted good game Sonic Adventure 2 Battle where the final stages are all awesome and the middle stages are weak as hell
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Aug 22, 2020 21:11
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There should be four different threads each open for four hours at a time with a two hour window between locking the last one and opening the next one. This would allow for coverage across all time zones while still breaking up the conversation periodically. The two hours would also serve as a cooling off period so posters wouldn't simply be able to pick up their grudges immediately in the next thread. Would this make the conversation harder to follow? Yes. Yes it would.
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Aug 22, 2020 21:15
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food court bailiff posted:i would put in another asterisk for noted good game Sonic Adventure 2 Battle where the final stages are all awesome and the middle stages are weak as hell Oh, definitely, I was speaking more to the 2D Sonics since the 3D ones were their own kind of thing. They definitely had a stacked front end to give something to the demo discs but SA2Battle escalated like crazy so the end was pretty drat fun. I should try dusting that off one of these days, it’s been ages.
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christmas boots posted:There should be four different threads each open for four hours at a time with a two hour window between locking the last one and opening the next one. This would allow for coverage across all time zones while still breaking up the conversation periodically. The two hours would also serve as a cooling off period so posters wouldn't simply be able to pick up their grudges immediately in the next thread. while we're getting '8-bit era sucks guy' lets get this guy too
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Would it help if I told you I thought I was posting this in another thread?
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Icochet posted:I'm grateful to have an older sibling so that I never developed an urge to watch a 'let's play' video are you saying this because your best sibling hogged the game so the weaker sibs got their fill of "passive play" via watching, and/or clever use of fake players 2... or are you saying because you grew up constantly competing for your turn you never want to sit back and watch ever again, if you dont have to?
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Outpost22 posted:Yeah I just watched an LP of the original legend of zelda, seemed like it would be a very frustrating and not fun game to actually play. Link to these past its definitely my favorite though The original Zelda was designed to be played in a very different way than we tend to play games today so it doesn't really work now. Like back then they hadn't really figured out the language of adventure games and the assumption was that you would only be playing one or two games at a time. Zelda was supposed to last for weeks or months in short sessions, like after dinner I'm gonna search for secrets around the lake and then quit for the day. So today you pick it up and say "how the poo poo was I supposed to figure that out" well you were supposed to figure it out by trying a million things for a long long time.
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Aug 22, 2020 22:50
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Super Mario Odyssey is such an incoherent amalgamation of random poo poo and putting a Mario brand on it is probably one of the worst atrocities in gaming history
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Aug 22, 2020 22:53
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Maybe Mario Odyssey should have been Donkey Kongs Odyssey. Instead of a magical hat it's a magical tie and suddenly dinosaurs and new donk city make a little more sense.
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Manager Hoyden posted:The original Zelda was designed to be played in a very different way than we tend to play games today so it doesn't really work now. Like back then they hadn't really figured out the language of adventure games and the assumption was that you would only be playing one or two games at a time. Zelda was supposed to last for weeks or months in short sessions, like after dinner I'm gonna search for secrets around the lake and then quit for the day. So today you pick it up and say "how the poo poo was I supposed to figure that out" well you were supposed to figure it out by trying a million things for a long long time. Yeah and in an era still dominated by arcade game design this was a revelation. It was the first NES game I played after owning a 2600 and it completely blew my mind. I never had any sense of progression or permanence in a game up until that point.
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